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24504 From: <BRagan@i...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:31am
Subject: Broken Arrow yesterday
I saw most of you yesterday on the Broken Arrow run in Sedona. I was
the gold-colored CJ with the wife and kids. I wish I had gone with
the group, as this was my first time on the trail. I ended up
following a "pink" for directions. :-)
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24505 From: Damon Gentile <dgentile@s...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:36am
Subject: Re: Anger, hostility, and too much horsepower...
Well I know for a fact that both ARB and the Gearless have at
one time or another been removed from the market due to
exceptionally high failure rates in the D35.
I have no bias, I ran my D35 to 110,000 miles with no problem
and 30" tires. 44s grew under the jeep just before I went to
33s.
-d
jeepindog@y... wrote:
>
> Ok, so some of you guys have too many cubic inches under your
> hoods, and no tolerance of puny axles! ha ha... Anyway, if Dana 35s
> were so weak that they cannot handle a locker, don't you guys think
> that ALL aftermarket manufacturers would STOP production on these
> units to avoid liability and warranty issues? Obviously if treated
> right a 35 is an acceptable axle to lock up. I happen to turn my
> axle shafts with a 2.5 liter engine that cannot generate enough
> horsepower to break a sweat, let alone an axle shaft. Unless, of
> course, I try to drive with the gas pedal to the floor. We all know
> that rock crawling requires skill and finesse, NOT horsepower. Look
> at Jason Bunch's '89 YJ that he used in the ARCA Extreme Rock
> Crawling Nationals. That guy uses a four cylinder engine and seems
> to do just fine. He also (probably!) has got super heavy-duty
> running gear under that rig! The point, though, is that I don't want
> to try to run mud bogs with a nitro-breathing dragon churnin' the
> drivetrain with insane amounts of torque. I want to CRAWL 3.5 and 4+
> trails with a 4 cylinder engine turning my 31" SSRs and be able to
> have traction when a wheel lifts. From all I have ever read, seen,
> and heard, a light foot and a little eyeball work make almost any
> obstacle driveable if you have decent flex and traction. On a
> related note I would also like to add that a 35 is a better axle than
> a model 20. Anyone disagree? So, let's all stop badmouthing the
> anemic 35 and help me find a locker that will make me happy. And byt
> the way, I am kidding about the "badmouthing". I know that you are
> all trying to either ward off evil for me before it happens, or
> relate some experience, etc. I moved here from Colorado a year ago,
> and I would have liked to have been locked up when I lived there. I
> have wheeled Moab in the TJ, and between CO, UT and now AZ I still
> want to be locked up to tackle harder trails. I definitely need to
> get out on a trail run with some of you. I live in Ahwatukee, so
> everything is far away. But I digress. Thanks for the advice from
> those of you who have given it. I will consider all of it. I would
> like to use the PowerTrax No-SLip. Anyone using one? Like it? Any
> dissenters among us? Let's hear it...
>
> Lachlan
>
>
>
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24506 From: Jacobson, Thomas <Tjacobson@A...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:41am
Subject: RE: A word or two about Trail Etiquette...
Have only been out at night a few times, but I actually appreciated the
extra light of anyone behind me. Simply adjusting my rearview and side
mirrors pretty much takes care of any issues with being "blinded". Unless
somehow I get pointing the wrong direction...not that that's ever happened
before!
Tom
Message: 25
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:08:05 -0700
From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
Subject: RE: Re: A word or two about Trail Etiquette...
I tried using my rock lights last night as trail lights, and for me, they
don't project enough light ahead of the vehicle. (Since I was leading, I
wasn't worried about shining them on anyone) ;) They do an awesome job of
lighting up the immediate vacinity around and under the vehicle (great for
the spotter to see what you are rolling over). There wasn't much (if any)
moon last night so no help from that source.
Since I have a pair of factory fogs which have a very thin (in the vertical
plane) beam, I'm going to angle them down some and rely on them for the
trail.
I tried using my rock lights last night as trail lights, and for me, they
don't project enough light ahead of the vehicle. (Since I was leading, I
wasn't worried about shining them on anyone) ;) They do an awesome job of
lighting up the immediate vacinity around and under the vehicle (great for
the spotter to see what you are rolling over). There wasn't much (if any)
moon last night so no help from that source.
Since I have a pair of factory fogs which have a very thin (in the vertical
plane) beam, I'm going to angle them down some and rely on them for the
trail.
24507 From: Damon Gentile <dgentile@s...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:52am
Subject: Re: Problems
Was the angle sttep enough so that the tranny pump could have been
drawing in some air instead of fluid ?
-d
David Burke wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Ran into a couple of issues with the old Cj this weekend in Rocky Point.
>
> Ran up a really steep hill part way, stopped and while attempting to
> back down...no reverse. It seemed as though there was not enough line
> pressure to hold the clutches together. After checking fluid
> level...fine, and letting it sit for a couple of hours...revers came
> back. Seems to be a temperature related problem...when hot, reverse goes
> away, ice cold, will bark the tires.....
>
> Second issue. The very next time that I drove the Jeep the engine
> started running poorly....really poor. It sounded like it was missing
> and a huge loss of power. Almost like a limp mode or something. You
> think these problems are related to some kind of sensor going out or
> something?
>
> Does anyone know of a good shop to take this to? It has a 97 chevy
> Vortec motor and a 4L60-E tranny.
>
> Trick-cj
>
>
>
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24508 From: Ken Borer <kborer@i...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:19am
Subject: Broken Arrow yesterday.
Thanks to Mike for volunteering to be the lead -- we had a great day!!!
Mike is a little guttsie on occasion - definitely put on a good show for everyone.
Thanks again for a beautiful run.
Ken
76 CJ-5 304 V8
2 1/2" Sagging SUA Lift
SOA in another week
33 X 12.5 on 15 X 10 Rims
Open Both Ends - Detroit in rear soon
24509 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 9:12am
Subject: RE: Problems
I know that the autos in use on the current TJs can suffer from fluid
starvation.
DC makes a deep pan for the autos...costs ~$40 or so, according to a friend
of mine. It is sold through the Mopar Performance group. The two guys that
I am aware of that have installed them that their problems on the steep
hills/obstacles have all disappeared.....well, maybe I should say that the
tranny related problems are gone....one of those guys still can't pick a
good line worth a hoot! LOL
Stu
-----Original Message-----
From: Damon Gentile [mailto:dgentile@s...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 8:52 AM
To: David Burke
Cc: az_vjc@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Problems
Was the angle sttep enough so that the tranny pump could have been
drawing in some air instead of fluid ?
-d
David Burke wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Ran into a couple of issues with the old Cj this weekend in Rocky Point.
>
> Ran up a really steep hill part way, stopped and while attempting to
> back down...no reverse. It seemed as though there was not enough line
> pressure to hold the clutches together. After checking fluid
> level...fine, and letting it sit for a couple of hours...revers came
> back. Seems to be a temperature related problem...when hot, reverse goes
> away, ice cold, will bark the tires.....
>
> Second issue. The very next time that I drove the Jeep the engine
> started running poorly....really poor. It sounded like it was missing
> and a huge loss of power. Almost like a limp mode or something. You
> think these problems are related to some kind of sensor going out or
> something?
>
> Does anyone know of a good shop to take this to? It has a 97 chevy
> Vortec motor and a 4L60-E tranny.
>
> Trick-cj
>
>
>
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24510 From: David Burke <davewburke@y...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 9:10am
Subject: Re: Problems
the angle was at least 45 degrees, maybe even more. I was under the impression
that the tranny holds enough volume of fluid so that it didnt matter what the
orientation of the jeep is, it will still pump...except for being up side
down... is this incorrect? If it did pump air, what is to be done to be done to
bleed the air out? Like I said before, when this thing cooled down, it locked
up hard.
Damon Gentile wrote:
> Was the angle sttep enough so that the tranny pump could have been
> drawing in some air instead of fluid ?
>
> -d
>
> David Burke wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Ran into a couple of issues with the old Cj this weekend in Rocky Point.
> >
> > Ran up a really steep hill part way, stopped and while attempting to
> > back down...no reverse. It seemed as though there was not enough line
> > pressure to hold the clutches together. After checking fluid
> > level...fine, and letting it sit for a couple of hours...revers came
> > back. Seems to be a temperature related problem...when hot, reverse goes
> > away, ice cold, will bark the tires.....
> >
> > Second issue. The very next time that I drove the Jeep the engine
> > started running poorly....really poor. It sounded like it was missing
> > and a huge loss of power. Almost like a limp mode or something. You
> > think these problems are related to some kind of sensor going out or
> > something?
> >
> > Does anyone know of a good shop to take this to? It has a 97 chevy
> > Vortec motor and a 4L60-E tranny.
> >
> > Trick-cj
> >
> >
> >
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24511 From: Damon Gentile <dgentile@s...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 9:20am
Subject: Re: Problems
Wow, yeah I can see that as a problem. I'm guessing you were headed
up the hill to get a starvation angle ?
Tranny holds enough fluid for flat ground :) Not sure about the 4L?? GM
trannies but I can speak to the 727&999&904 family- the pump is at the
front of the case, and the pickup is not far back. Runnning at a
steep angle, there gets to be a point where the pump can't draw
enough fluid (to either activate a clutch or supply the torque
converter)
If it does mix in some air no worries, air bubbles will float out
of the fluid over time (minutes, hours). No problem getting it level
again and having everything good again.
FWIW the 727 I just build holds 8 quarts of fluid. 4 in the
torque converter, and that leaves about 2" of fluid in the pan
at rest on flat ground.
-d
David Burke wrote:
>
> the angle was at least 45 degrees, maybe even more. I was under the impression
> that the tranny holds enough volume of fluid so that it didnt matter what the
> orientation of the jeep is, it will still pump...except for being up side
> down... is this incorrect? If it did pump air, what is to be done to be done to
> bleed the air out? Like I said before, when this thing cooled down, it locked
> up hard.
>
> Damon Gentile wrote:
>
> > Was the angle sttep enough so that the tranny pump could have been
> > drawing in some air instead of fluid ?
> >
> > -d
> >
> > David Burke wrote:
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > Ran into a couple of issues with the old Cj this weekend in Rocky Point.
> > >
> > > Ran up a really steep hill part way, stopped and while attempting to
> > > back down...no reverse. It seemed as though there was not enough line
> > > pressure to hold the clutches together. After checking fluid
> > > level...fine, and letting it sit for a couple of hours...revers came
> > > back. Seems to be a temperature related problem...when hot, reverse goes
> > > away, ice cold, will bark the tires.....
> > >
> > > Second issue. The very next time that I drove the Jeep the engine
> > > started running poorly....really poor. It sounded like it was missing
> > > and a huge loss of power. Almost like a limp mode or something. You
> > > think these problems are related to some kind of sensor going out or
> > > something?
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of a good shop to take this to? It has a 97 chevy
> > > Vortec motor and a 4L60-E tranny.
> > >
> > > Trick-cj
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
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24512 From: <Jeepguy@z...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 10:07am
Subject: Re: A word or two about Trail Etiquette...
Here is the rule of thumb explained to me... If you are climbing or
going down a hill, wait for the other Jeep to finish! If the brakes
give and your right behind someone going down a hill you are going to
take both Jeeps out! Going up the hill right behind someone will not
give them room to back up if they find out they chose the wrong line!
I have seen the second one happen a few times where five Jeeps have
had to back up because all of them are 3 feet from each other! Any
other time follow however you want. If you are too close... I'll
speak up and tell ya! :) Just please remember what might happen if
that Jeep goes DIW (dead in the water) and plan on it, so if it
actually does... you'll be ready.
24513 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 10:25am
Subject: Tax Collector - Next Sat Night Run, Need Info
I was curious if I could get more info on next Saturdays night run of Tax
Collector, time etc... I also seem to recall it was for the a specific
purpose(Arizona Four Wheel Drive Association or something) to raise funds
and such.
I know this has ben posted before, but I must have used that delete button
once too often and deleted, sorry for the inconvenience.
Chris
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
My1stJeep@e...
'97 TJ
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24514 From: Michael Smith <msmith658@y...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 11:01am
Subject: I need a transfer case!
Anybody have or know where I can find a Dana Model 18 transfer case?
I have the AMC 360 V8 with the GM Turbo 400 transmission. I'm
looking to find one with passenger side drop front and rear, with
the "Texas" bolt pattern, that takes the 26 tooth input gear.
The other idea I've been tossing around is to toss the Turbo 400 and
get a TF727 and the Dana 300 if I can find one. One problem though
with this idea. The Dana 300 has a centered rear output, and my rear
diff is offset to the passenger side. Does anyone know if this
combination will create too extreme of a driveline angle?
Please call me at 602-689-1761 or email me if you have a transfer
case available.
Thanks,
Michael Smith
78 CJ7
24515 From: James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 11:12am
Subject: Broken Arrow yesterday.
I would also like to thank Mike for a great outing
yesterday at Broken Arrow.
We definalty had a great time. Mike made a great
presentation at the crack. Maybe next time we will get
to go and play in the water.
I also wanted to take this time and Say " THANK YOU".
to everyone else who came along and made this run a
great time out with the family! My wife actually had a
good time, she did conquer some of her fear of the
whole off roading thing.
Thanks again, And See ya on the trail!!!
James
and Family
95 YJ
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24516 From: Nick Notestine <nnote@a...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 11:15am
Subject: Re: Which Locker and Dana 35's
That's vitally important on the Dana 35 but in the Dana 30 I just had to
make sure the gears meshed smoothly. I've been using it since October now
and no problems.
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Damon Gentile" <dgentile@s...>
To: "Nick Notestine" <nnote@a...>
Cc: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <97tj@t...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Which Locker and Dana 35's
> Don't you need to reset the carrier backlash also ?
>
> -d
>
> Nick Notestine wrote:
> >
> > I have treated my Dana 30 and 35 very ruff and never had a problem.
That's
> > even being locked with the Ox up front. Btw, the Ox locker is a very
easy
> > install. I would say easier than most traction devices. The only
special
> > tools you need is a bearing press or equivalent and a torque wrench.
> > Nick
24517 From: James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 11:32am
Subject: Exhaust question..
Ok, after yestedays, Broken Arrow, run.
I nioticed I whacked my Stock Muffler, pretty good,
and pushed it back even further, The weld after the
CAT conv. was already cracked, and now it is pushed
back atleast another inch. So now it is time to go
ahead and get a new muffler and maybe exhaust too not
sure if when I pushed the muffler it pinched the
exhaust pipe. I did notice a loss of power on the way
home.
I was thinking of a CAT back, from Borla maybe.
Any toher suggestions woudl be greatly appreciated.
Also on where I could pick one up for a decent price!
Thanks a Bunch!
Smitty
95 YJ
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24518 From: JEEP THANG <jeep_thang@h...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 11:35am
Subject: CrossMember/Skidplate QUestion
I have seen the Belly up Skids, and some Custom made Skid Plates(I.E.
Hal Loy), but what I was wandering was does anybody in the Club make
these themselves, I want to put one on as soon as I Get my Slip Yoke
Eliminator, and Driveshaft, Because I do not have alot of lift, mayb
e 4" at most. I want to maximize my Clearance.
If anybody has any suggestions and or measurements that they did, I
would really appreciate the info.
Sincerely: JEEP THANG
Larry Carmen and Emily
24519 From: <Jeepguy@z...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 11:49am
Subject: Re: Exhaust question..
In my most humble opinion I think the Borla is wwwwaaaaayyy over
priced when you can get a TFX header, AND cat back exh for the price
of the Borla exh alone. The power gain on both are the same, so I
don't see a huge difference in them. -Rob
--- In az_vjc@y..., James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...> wrote:
> Ok, after yestedays, Broken Arrow, run.
> I nioticed I whacked my Stock Muffler, pretty good,
> and pushed it back even further, The weld after the
> CAT conv. was already cracked, and now it is pushed
> back atleast another inch. So now it is time to go
> ahead and get a new muffler and maybe exhaust too not
> sure if when I pushed the muffler it pinched the
> exhaust pipe. I did notice a loss of power on the way
> home.
> I was thinking of a CAT back, from Borla maybe.
> Any toher suggestions woudl be greatly appreciated.
> Also on where I could pick one up for a decent price!
>
> Thanks a Bunch!
>
> Smitty
>
> 95 YJ
>
>
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24520 From: Nick Notestine <nnote@a...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 0:18pm
Subject: skidpaltes etc.
Also along the skid plating question... I am getting ready to 'turtle shell'
my oil pan with some metal plates. I know a few people have done this but I
was wondering how you welded the metal to the curved pan. I have the welder
and the saw to shape everything but was thinking I was going to have to take
my intimidator hammer and bang the pan on all sides to get it squared....
Nick
24521 From: <pistonhonda01@y...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 0:21pm
Subject: Overhead Console For Sale
Hello,
I have a Tuffy Overhead Security Console for sale if anyone is
interested. This lockable console is brand new (it was only mounted
in my Jeep for 2 weeks). It holds two din-sized head units, cb
radio, up to two speakers, or any combination of the three. It fits
Jeep CJ's, YJ's (without soundbar), and TJ's. It includes all the
hardware, instructions, and is packed in the original box it was
shipped in. This console retails for $200 (without shipping) through
any of the Jeep aftermarket catalogs. I am only asking $175 Cash
OBO. I am located in Prescott Valley, Arizona and can save you
shipping charges by delivering (on a weekend) as far as Phoenix or
Flagstaff. If anyone is interested, please email me at
PistonHonda01@y...
For Pictures and/or further details (dimensions, etc.), you can check
it out at http://www.tuffyproducts.com/consoles/overhead.html (they
are asking $251 including shipping!). Thanks!
24522 From: <sfugatejeremy75@a...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:30am
Subject: Re: Exhaust question..
To tell you the truth I think Borla is strictly over priced. I ve had gibson
on a truck before and it was excellent real throaty sound and didnt rust out
like some. Ive also had Dyno max and for the price there just as good as
anything else!!!
Jeremy TJ 2000
24523 From: David W. Smith <dwsmith69@h...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 0:35pm
Subject: Re: Exhaust question..
I recently installed a flowmaster and 2.5" pipe out the back attached to the
stock cat. I have also got a borla header. Huge power increase. This weekend
pulling a camper that i have been pulling for 3 years up the hill into
payson. Previously I would be in second gear going up the hill out of Rye (I
think that is the little town with bike junkyard). This weekend I didn't
even use third and never got below 45 mph. I had my exhaust work done at
madhatter muffler. It cost me $180 (labor, muffler and pipe). This is
cheaper than most catbacks and you don't even have to get dirty. If want to
come over see what it sounds like give me a hollar (Crismon and Mckellips
area).
91 YJ with stock 6
few other mods
>From: James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...>
>To: azvjc <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Exhaust question..
>Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:32:38 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Ok, after yestedays, Broken Arrow, run.
>I nioticed I whacked my Stock Muffler, pretty good,
>and pushed it back even further, The weld after the
>CAT conv. was already cracked, and now it is pushed
>back atleast another inch. So now it is time to go
>ahead and get a new muffler and maybe exhaust too not
>sure if when I pushed the muffler it pinched the
>exhaust pipe. I did notice a loss of power on the way
>home.
>I was thinking of a CAT back, from Borla maybe.
>Any toher suggestions woudl be greatly appreciated.
>Also on where I could pick one up for a decent price!
>
>Thanks a Bunch!
>
>Smitty
>
>95 YJ
>
>
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24524 From: James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 0:42pm
Subject: Re: Exhaust question..
Sorry,
Forgot to mention My YJ is a little 4 banger..
THX,
Smitty
--- James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...> wrote:
> Ok, after yestedays, Broken Arrow, run.
> I nioticed I whacked my Stock Muffler, pretty good,
> and pushed it back even further, The weld after the
> CAT conv. was already cracked, and now it is pushed
> back atleast another inch. So now it is time to go
> ahead and get a new muffler and maybe exhaust too
> not
> sure if when I pushed the muffler it pinched the
> exhaust pipe. I did notice a loss of power on the
> way
> home.
> I was thinking of a CAT back, from Borla maybe.
> Any toher suggestions woudl be greatly appreciated.
> Also on where I could pick one up for a decent
> price!
>
> Thanks a Bunch!
>
> Smitty
>
> 95 YJ
>
>
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24525 From: <msa12171@a...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 0:57pm
Subject: FS: 4.10 GEARS
I am getting ready to change gears in my TJ and need to sell the
4.10's. They are in a D30 front and D35 rear, on a 97 TJ. I'd like
to get $250 for the pair (the rear is only 6 months old). Let me
know.
Mike Anderson
24526 From: Michigan <michign@q...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 1:14pm
Subject: stalling
A pal of mine with a 90 YJ (4.1L) is having some trouble. His jeep will
stall at idle speed everytime. Starting coming downhill from a trail Friday
night, ran on level ground for a day or so. Now won't idle at all. Will
run if you keep the gas up.
Anyone have and idea where to start looking?
Thanks in advance
Eric
99TJ
24527 From: Rabenius John-AJR300 <AJR300@m...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 1:23pm
Subject: RE: Overhead Console For Sale
It seems to me (without looking at it), that you would want to make up
some kind of mountong brackets that fastened to the frame. 3/16"
thick 1 x 1 angle iron or 1/8" wall tube should work. I prefer tube, it's a little
more rigid. Go with what fits.
I'd hesitate to take out "the intimidator" you mentioned as you may
distort the pan and it will no longer seal.
John Rabenius
-----Original Message-----
From: pistonhonda01@y... [mailto:pistonhonda01@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:22 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Overhead Console For Sale
Hello,
I have a Tuffy Overhead Security Console for sale if anyone is
interested. This lockable console is brand new (it was only mounted
in my Jeep for 2 weeks). It holds two din-sized head units, cb
radio, up to two speakers, or any combination of the three. It fits
Jeep CJ's, YJ's (without soundbar), and TJ's. It includes all the
hardware, instructions, and is packed in the original box it was
shipped in. This console retails for $200 (without shipping) through
any of the Jeep aftermarket catalogs. I am only asking $175 Cash
OBO. I am located in Prescott Valley, Arizona and can save you
shipping charges by delivering (on a weekend) as far as Phoenix or
Flagstaff. If anyone is interested, please email me at
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For Pictures and/or further details (dimensions, etc.), you can check
it out at http://www.tuffyproducts.com/consoles/overhead.html (they
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24528 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 1:24pm
Subject: Re: A word or two about Trail Etiquette...
"Chris R." wrote:
>
> Please consider others when in a group and keep the volume and cussing
> to a minimum.
Especially when there are children along!
Our sport is a family sport - right?
-Roger
24504 From: <BRagan@i...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:31am
Subject: Broken Arrow yesterday
I saw most of you yesterday on the Broken Arrow run in Sedona. I was
the gold-colored CJ with the wife and kids. I wish I had gone with
the group, as this was my first time on the trail. I ended up
following a "pink" for directions. :-)
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24505 From: Damon Gentile <dgentile@s...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:36am
Subject: Re: Anger, hostility, and too much horsepower...
Well I know for a fact that both ARB and the Gearless have at
one time or another been removed from the market due to
exceptionally high failure rates in the D35.
I have no bias, I ran my D35 to 110,000 miles with no problem
and 30" tires. 44s grew under the jeep just before I went to
33s.
-d
jeepindog@y... wrote:
>
> Ok, so some of you guys have too many cubic inches under your
> hoods, and no tolerance of puny axles! ha ha... Anyway, if Dana 35s
> were so weak that they cannot handle a locker, don't you guys think
> that ALL aftermarket manufacturers would STOP production on these
> units to avoid liability and warranty issues? Obviously if treated
> right a 35 is an acceptable axle to lock up. I happen to turn my
> axle shafts with a 2.5 liter engine that cannot generate enough
> horsepower to break a sweat, let alone an axle shaft. Unless, of
> course, I try to drive with the gas pedal to the floor. We all know
> that rock crawling requires skill and finesse, NOT horsepower. Look
> at Jason Bunch's '89 YJ that he used in the ARCA Extreme Rock
> Crawling Nationals. That guy uses a four cylinder engine and seems
> to do just fine. He also (probably!) has got super heavy-duty
> running gear under that rig! The point, though, is that I don't want
> to try to run mud bogs with a nitro-breathing dragon churnin' the
> drivetrain with insane amounts of torque. I want to CRAWL 3.5 and 4+
> trails with a 4 cylinder engine turning my 31" SSRs and be able to
> have traction when a wheel lifts. From all I have ever read, seen,
> and heard, a light foot and a little eyeball work make almost any
> obstacle driveable if you have decent flex and traction. On a
> related note I would also like to add that a 35 is a better axle than
> a model 20. Anyone disagree? So, let's all stop badmouthing the
> anemic 35 and help me find a locker that will make me happy. And byt
> the way, I am kidding about the "badmouthing". I know that you are
> all trying to either ward off evil for me before it happens, or
> relate some experience, etc. I moved here from Colorado a year ago,
> and I would have liked to have been locked up when I lived there. I
> have wheeled Moab in the TJ, and between CO, UT and now AZ I still
> want to be locked up to tackle harder trails. I definitely need to
> get out on a trail run with some of you. I live in Ahwatukee, so
> everything is far away. But I digress. Thanks for the advice from
> those of you who have given it. I will consider all of it. I would
> like to use the PowerTrax No-SLip. Anyone using one? Like it? Any
> dissenters among us? Let's hear it...
>
> Lachlan
>
>
>
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24506 From: Jacobson, Thomas <Tjacobson@A...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:41am
Subject: RE: A word or two about Trail Etiquette...
Have only been out at night a few times, but I actually appreciated the
extra light of anyone behind me. Simply adjusting my rearview and side
mirrors pretty much takes care of any issues with being "blinded". Unless
somehow I get pointing the wrong direction...not that that's ever happened
before!
Tom
Message: 25
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:08:05 -0700
From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
Subject: RE: Re: A word or two about Trail Etiquette...
I tried using my rock lights last night as trail lights, and for me, they
don't project enough light ahead of the vehicle. (Since I was leading, I
wasn't worried about shining them on anyone) ;) They do an awesome job of
lighting up the immediate vacinity around and under the vehicle (great for
the spotter to see what you are rolling over). There wasn't much (if any)
moon last night so no help from that source.
Since I have a pair of factory fogs which have a very thin (in the vertical
plane) beam, I'm going to angle them down some and rely on them for the
trail.
I tried using my rock lights last night as trail lights, and for me, they
don't project enough light ahead of the vehicle. (Since I was leading, I
wasn't worried about shining them on anyone) ;) They do an awesome job of
lighting up the immediate vacinity around and under the vehicle (great for
the spotter to see what you are rolling over). There wasn't much (if any)
moon last night so no help from that source.
Since I have a pair of factory fogs which have a very thin (in the vertical
plane) beam, I'm going to angle them down some and rely on them for the
trail.
24507 From: Damon Gentile <dgentile@s...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:52am
Subject: Re: Problems
Was the angle sttep enough so that the tranny pump could have been
drawing in some air instead of fluid ?
-d
David Burke wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Ran into a couple of issues with the old Cj this weekend in Rocky Point.
>
> Ran up a really steep hill part way, stopped and while attempting to
> back down...no reverse. It seemed as though there was not enough line
> pressure to hold the clutches together. After checking fluid
> level...fine, and letting it sit for a couple of hours...revers came
> back. Seems to be a temperature related problem...when hot, reverse goes
> away, ice cold, will bark the tires.....
>
> Second issue. The very next time that I drove the Jeep the engine
> started running poorly....really poor. It sounded like it was missing
> and a huge loss of power. Almost like a limp mode or something. You
> think these problems are related to some kind of sensor going out or
> something?
>
> Does anyone know of a good shop to take this to? It has a 97 chevy
> Vortec motor and a 4L60-E tranny.
>
> Trick-cj
>
>
>
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24508 From: Ken Borer <kborer@i...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:19am
Subject: Broken Arrow yesterday.
Thanks to Mike for volunteering to be the lead -- we had a great day!!!
Mike is a little guttsie on occasion - definitely put on a good show for everyone.
Thanks again for a beautiful run.
Ken
76 CJ-5 304 V8
2 1/2" Sagging SUA Lift
SOA in another week
33 X 12.5 on 15 X 10 Rims
Open Both Ends - Detroit in rear soon
24509 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 9:12am
Subject: RE: Problems
I know that the autos in use on the current TJs can suffer from fluid
starvation.
DC makes a deep pan for the autos...costs ~$40 or so, according to a friend
of mine. It is sold through the Mopar Performance group. The two guys that
I am aware of that have installed them that their problems on the steep
hills/obstacles have all disappeared.....well, maybe I should say that the
tranny related problems are gone....one of those guys still can't pick a
good line worth a hoot! LOL
Stu
-----Original Message-----
From: Damon Gentile [mailto:dgentile@s...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 8:52 AM
To: David Burke
Cc: az_vjc@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Problems
Was the angle sttep enough so that the tranny pump could have been
drawing in some air instead of fluid ?
-d
David Burke wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Ran into a couple of issues with the old Cj this weekend in Rocky Point.
>
> Ran up a really steep hill part way, stopped and while attempting to
> back down...no reverse. It seemed as though there was not enough line
> pressure to hold the clutches together. After checking fluid
> level...fine, and letting it sit for a couple of hours...revers came
> back. Seems to be a temperature related problem...when hot, reverse goes
> away, ice cold, will bark the tires.....
>
> Second issue. The very next time that I drove the Jeep the engine
> started running poorly....really poor. It sounded like it was missing
> and a huge loss of power. Almost like a limp mode or something. You
> think these problems are related to some kind of sensor going out or
> something?
>
> Does anyone know of a good shop to take this to? It has a 97 chevy
> Vortec motor and a 4L60-E tranny.
>
> Trick-cj
>
>
>
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24510 From: David Burke <davewburke@y...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 9:10am
Subject: Re: Problems
the angle was at least 45 degrees, maybe even more. I was under the impression
that the tranny holds enough volume of fluid so that it didnt matter what the
orientation of the jeep is, it will still pump...except for being up side
down... is this incorrect? If it did pump air, what is to be done to be done to
bleed the air out? Like I said before, when this thing cooled down, it locked
up hard.
Damon Gentile wrote:
> Was the angle sttep enough so that the tranny pump could have been
> drawing in some air instead of fluid ?
>
> -d
>
> David Burke wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Ran into a couple of issues with the old Cj this weekend in Rocky Point.
> >
> > Ran up a really steep hill part way, stopped and while attempting to
> > back down...no reverse. It seemed as though there was not enough line
> > pressure to hold the clutches together. After checking fluid
> > level...fine, and letting it sit for a couple of hours...revers came
> > back. Seems to be a temperature related problem...when hot, reverse goes
> > away, ice cold, will bark the tires.....
> >
> > Second issue. The very next time that I drove the Jeep the engine
> > started running poorly....really poor. It sounded like it was missing
> > and a huge loss of power. Almost like a limp mode or something. You
> > think these problems are related to some kind of sensor going out or
> > something?
> >
> > Does anyone know of a good shop to take this to? It has a 97 chevy
> > Vortec motor and a 4L60-E tranny.
> >
> > Trick-cj
> >
> >
> >
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24511 From: Damon Gentile <dgentile@s...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 9:20am
Subject: Re: Problems
Wow, yeah I can see that as a problem. I'm guessing you were headed
up the hill to get a starvation angle ?
Tranny holds enough fluid for flat ground :) Not sure about the 4L?? GM
trannies but I can speak to the 727&999&904 family- the pump is at the
front of the case, and the pickup is not far back. Runnning at a
steep angle, there gets to be a point where the pump can't draw
enough fluid (to either activate a clutch or supply the torque
converter)
If it does mix in some air no worries, air bubbles will float out
of the fluid over time (minutes, hours). No problem getting it level
again and having everything good again.
FWIW the 727 I just build holds 8 quarts of fluid. 4 in the
torque converter, and that leaves about 2" of fluid in the pan
at rest on flat ground.
-d
David Burke wrote:
>
> the angle was at least 45 degrees, maybe even more. I was under the impression
> that the tranny holds enough volume of fluid so that it didnt matter what the
> orientation of the jeep is, it will still pump...except for being up side
> down... is this incorrect? If it did pump air, what is to be done to be done to
> bleed the air out? Like I said before, when this thing cooled down, it locked
> up hard.
>
> Damon Gentile wrote:
>
> > Was the angle sttep enough so that the tranny pump could have been
> > drawing in some air instead of fluid ?
> >
> > -d
> >
> > David Burke wrote:
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > Ran into a couple of issues with the old Cj this weekend in Rocky Point.
> > >
> > > Ran up a really steep hill part way, stopped and while attempting to
> > > back down...no reverse. It seemed as though there was not enough line
> > > pressure to hold the clutches together. After checking fluid
> > > level...fine, and letting it sit for a couple of hours...revers came
> > > back. Seems to be a temperature related problem...when hot, reverse goes
> > > away, ice cold, will bark the tires.....
> > >
> > > Second issue. The very next time that I drove the Jeep the engine
> > > started running poorly....really poor. It sounded like it was missing
> > > and a huge loss of power. Almost like a limp mode or something. You
> > > think these problems are related to some kind of sensor going out or
> > > something?
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of a good shop to take this to? It has a 97 chevy
> > > Vortec motor and a 4L60-E tranny.
> > >
> > > Trick-cj
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
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24512 From: <Jeepguy@z...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 10:07am
Subject: Re: A word or two about Trail Etiquette...
Here is the rule of thumb explained to me... If you are climbing or
going down a hill, wait for the other Jeep to finish! If the brakes
give and your right behind someone going down a hill you are going to
take both Jeeps out! Going up the hill right behind someone will not
give them room to back up if they find out they chose the wrong line!
I have seen the second one happen a few times where five Jeeps have
had to back up because all of them are 3 feet from each other! Any
other time follow however you want. If you are too close... I'll
speak up and tell ya! :) Just please remember what might happen if
that Jeep goes DIW (dead in the water) and plan on it, so if it
actually does... you'll be ready.
24513 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 10:25am
Subject: Tax Collector - Next Sat Night Run, Need Info
I was curious if I could get more info on next Saturdays night run of Tax
Collector, time etc... I also seem to recall it was for the a specific
purpose(Arizona Four Wheel Drive Association or something) to raise funds
and such.
I know this has ben posted before, but I must have used that delete button
once too often and deleted, sorry for the inconvenience.
Chris
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
My1stJeep@e...
'97 TJ
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24514 From: Michael Smith <msmith658@y...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 11:01am
Subject: I need a transfer case!
Anybody have or know where I can find a Dana Model 18 transfer case?
I have the AMC 360 V8 with the GM Turbo 400 transmission. I'm
looking to find one with passenger side drop front and rear, with
the "Texas" bolt pattern, that takes the 26 tooth input gear.
The other idea I've been tossing around is to toss the Turbo 400 and
get a TF727 and the Dana 300 if I can find one. One problem though
with this idea. The Dana 300 has a centered rear output, and my rear
diff is offset to the passenger side. Does anyone know if this
combination will create too extreme of a driveline angle?
Please call me at 602-689-1761 or email me if you have a transfer
case available.
Thanks,
Michael Smith
78 CJ7
24515 From: James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 11:12am
Subject: Broken Arrow yesterday.
I would also like to thank Mike for a great outing
yesterday at Broken Arrow.
We definalty had a great time. Mike made a great
presentation at the crack. Maybe next time we will get
to go and play in the water.
I also wanted to take this time and Say " THANK YOU".
to everyone else who came along and made this run a
great time out with the family! My wife actually had a
good time, she did conquer some of her fear of the
whole off roading thing.
Thanks again, And See ya on the trail!!!
James
and Family
95 YJ
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24516 From: Nick Notestine <nnote@a...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 11:15am
Subject: Re: Which Locker and Dana 35's
That's vitally important on the Dana 35 but in the Dana 30 I just had to
make sure the gears meshed smoothly. I've been using it since October now
and no problems.
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Damon Gentile" <dgentile@s...>
To: "Nick Notestine" <nnote@a...>
Cc: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <97tj@t...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Which Locker and Dana 35's
> Don't you need to reset the carrier backlash also ?
>
> -d
>
> Nick Notestine wrote:
> >
> > I have treated my Dana 30 and 35 very ruff and never had a problem.
That's
> > even being locked with the Ox up front. Btw, the Ox locker is a very
easy
> > install. I would say easier than most traction devices. The only
special
> > tools you need is a bearing press or equivalent and a torque wrench.
> > Nick
24517 From: James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 11:32am
Subject: Exhaust question..
Ok, after yestedays, Broken Arrow, run.
I nioticed I whacked my Stock Muffler, pretty good,
and pushed it back even further, The weld after the
CAT conv. was already cracked, and now it is pushed
back atleast another inch. So now it is time to go
ahead and get a new muffler and maybe exhaust too not
sure if when I pushed the muffler it pinched the
exhaust pipe. I did notice a loss of power on the way
home.
I was thinking of a CAT back, from Borla maybe.
Any toher suggestions woudl be greatly appreciated.
Also on where I could pick one up for a decent price!
Thanks a Bunch!
Smitty
95 YJ
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24518 From: JEEP THANG <jeep_thang@h...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 11:35am
Subject: CrossMember/Skidplate QUestion
I have seen the Belly up Skids, and some Custom made Skid Plates(I.E.
Hal Loy), but what I was wandering was does anybody in the Club make
these themselves, I want to put one on as soon as I Get my Slip Yoke
Eliminator, and Driveshaft, Because I do not have alot of lift, mayb
e 4" at most. I want to maximize my Clearance.
If anybody has any suggestions and or measurements that they did, I
would really appreciate the info.
Sincerely: JEEP THANG
Larry Carmen and Emily
24519 From: <Jeepguy@z...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 11:49am
Subject: Re: Exhaust question..
In my most humble opinion I think the Borla is wwwwaaaaayyy over
priced when you can get a TFX header, AND cat back exh for the price
of the Borla exh alone. The power gain on both are the same, so I
don't see a huge difference in them. -Rob
--- In az_vjc@y..., James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...> wrote:
> Ok, after yestedays, Broken Arrow, run.
> I nioticed I whacked my Stock Muffler, pretty good,
> and pushed it back even further, The weld after the
> CAT conv. was already cracked, and now it is pushed
> back atleast another inch. So now it is time to go
> ahead and get a new muffler and maybe exhaust too not
> sure if when I pushed the muffler it pinched the
> exhaust pipe. I did notice a loss of power on the way
> home.
> I was thinking of a CAT back, from Borla maybe.
> Any toher suggestions woudl be greatly appreciated.
> Also on where I could pick one up for a decent price!
>
> Thanks a Bunch!
>
> Smitty
>
> 95 YJ
>
>
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24520 From: Nick Notestine <nnote@a...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 0:18pm
Subject: skidpaltes etc.
Also along the skid plating question... I am getting ready to 'turtle shell'
my oil pan with some metal plates. I know a few people have done this but I
was wondering how you welded the metal to the curved pan. I have the welder
and the saw to shape everything but was thinking I was going to have to take
my intimidator hammer and bang the pan on all sides to get it squared....
Nick
24521 From: <pistonhonda01@y...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 0:21pm
Subject: Overhead Console For Sale
Hello,
I have a Tuffy Overhead Security Console for sale if anyone is
interested. This lockable console is brand new (it was only mounted
in my Jeep for 2 weeks). It holds two din-sized head units, cb
radio, up to two speakers, or any combination of the three. It fits
Jeep CJ's, YJ's (without soundbar), and TJ's. It includes all the
hardware, instructions, and is packed in the original box it was
shipped in. This console retails for $200 (without shipping) through
any of the Jeep aftermarket catalogs. I am only asking $175 Cash
OBO. I am located in Prescott Valley, Arizona and can save you
shipping charges by delivering (on a weekend) as far as Phoenix or
Flagstaff. If anyone is interested, please email me at
PistonHonda01@y...
For Pictures and/or further details (dimensions, etc.), you can check
it out at http://www.tuffyproducts.com/consoles/overhead.html (they
are asking $251 including shipping!). Thanks!
24522 From: <sfugatejeremy75@a...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 8:30am
Subject: Re: Exhaust question..
To tell you the truth I think Borla is strictly over priced. I ve had gibson
on a truck before and it was excellent real throaty sound and didnt rust out
like some. Ive also had Dyno max and for the price there just as good as
anything else!!!
Jeremy TJ 2000
24523 From: David W. Smith <dwsmith69@h...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 0:35pm
Subject: Re: Exhaust question..
I recently installed a flowmaster and 2.5" pipe out the back attached to the
stock cat. I have also got a borla header. Huge power increase. This weekend
pulling a camper that i have been pulling for 3 years up the hill into
payson. Previously I would be in second gear going up the hill out of Rye (I
think that is the little town with bike junkyard). This weekend I didn't
even use third and never got below 45 mph. I had my exhaust work done at
madhatter muffler. It cost me $180 (labor, muffler and pipe). This is
cheaper than most catbacks and you don't even have to get dirty. If want to
come over see what it sounds like give me a hollar (Crismon and Mckellips
area).
91 YJ with stock 6
few other mods
>From: James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...>
>To: azvjc <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Exhaust question..
>Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:32:38 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Ok, after yestedays, Broken Arrow, run.
>I nioticed I whacked my Stock Muffler, pretty good,
>and pushed it back even further, The weld after the
>CAT conv. was already cracked, and now it is pushed
>back atleast another inch. So now it is time to go
>ahead and get a new muffler and maybe exhaust too not
>sure if when I pushed the muffler it pinched the
>exhaust pipe. I did notice a loss of power on the way
>home.
>I was thinking of a CAT back, from Borla maybe.
>Any toher suggestions woudl be greatly appreciated.
>Also on where I could pick one up for a decent price!
>
>Thanks a Bunch!
>
>Smitty
>
>95 YJ
>
>
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24524 From: James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 0:42pm
Subject: Re: Exhaust question..
Sorry,
Forgot to mention My YJ is a little 4 banger..
THX,
Smitty
--- James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...> wrote:
> Ok, after yestedays, Broken Arrow, run.
> I nioticed I whacked my Stock Muffler, pretty good,
> and pushed it back even further, The weld after the
> CAT conv. was already cracked, and now it is pushed
> back atleast another inch. So now it is time to go
> ahead and get a new muffler and maybe exhaust too
> not
> sure if when I pushed the muffler it pinched the
> exhaust pipe. I did notice a loss of power on the
> way
> home.
> I was thinking of a CAT back, from Borla maybe.
> Any toher suggestions woudl be greatly appreciated.
> Also on where I could pick one up for a decent
> price!
>
> Thanks a Bunch!
>
> Smitty
>
> 95 YJ
>
>
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24525 From: <msa12171@a...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 0:57pm
Subject: FS: 4.10 GEARS
I am getting ready to change gears in my TJ and need to sell the
4.10's. They are in a D30 front and D35 rear, on a 97 TJ. I'd like
to get $250 for the pair (the rear is only 6 months old). Let me
know.
Mike Anderson
24526 From: Michigan <michign@q...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 1:14pm
Subject: stalling
A pal of mine with a 90 YJ (4.1L) is having some trouble. His jeep will
stall at idle speed everytime. Starting coming downhill from a trail Friday
night, ran on level ground for a day or so. Now won't idle at all. Will
run if you keep the gas up.
Anyone have and idea where to start looking?
Thanks in advance
Eric
99TJ
24527 From: Rabenius John-AJR300 <AJR300@m...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 1:23pm
Subject: RE: Overhead Console For Sale
It seems to me (without looking at it), that you would want to make up
some kind of mountong brackets that fastened to the frame. 3/16"
thick 1 x 1 angle iron or 1/8" wall tube should work. I prefer tube, it's a little
more rigid. Go with what fits.
I'd hesitate to take out "the intimidator" you mentioned as you may
distort the pan and it will no longer seal.
John Rabenius
-----Original Message-----
From: pistonhonda01@y... [mailto:pistonhonda01@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:22 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Overhead Console For Sale
Hello,
I have a Tuffy Overhead Security Console for sale if anyone is
interested. This lockable console is brand new (it was only mounted
in my Jeep for 2 weeks). It holds two din-sized head units, cb
radio, up to two speakers, or any combination of the three. It fits
Jeep CJ's, YJ's (without soundbar), and TJ's. It includes all the
hardware, instructions, and is packed in the original box it was
shipped in. This console retails for $200 (without shipping) through
any of the Jeep aftermarket catalogs. I am only asking $175 Cash
OBO. I am located in Prescott Valley, Arizona and can save you
shipping charges by delivering (on a weekend) as far as Phoenix or
Flagstaff. If anyone is interested, please email me at
PistonHonda01@y...
For Pictures and/or further details (dimensions, etc.), you can check
it out at http://www.tuffyproducts.com/consoles/overhead.html (they
are asking $251 including shipping!). Thanks!
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24528 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue May 29, 2001 1:24pm
Subject: Re: A word or two about Trail Etiquette...
"Chris R." wrote:
>
> Please consider others when in a group and keep the volume and cussing
> to a minimum.
Especially when there are children along!
Our sport is a family sport - right?
-Roger