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23975 From: Durham <bdurham@e...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:42pm
Subject: RE: Looking for a good rear axle for a ZJ with 3.73 gears.
My old cherokee was making bad noises when going around corners. I took the
rear diff apart and found a $5.00 bolt that holds the center pin to be worn
out. It might be worth your while to at least look at it.
brian
-----Original Message-----
From: trmn8rjn98@a... [mailto:trmn8rjn98@a...]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:58 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Looking for a good rear axle for a ZJ with 3.73 gears.
I know that linda is looking to replace hers & intend to e-mail her
about her old one(if you read this what are you doing with it?). I do
not care drum or disk but do want a stock ZJ one I don't have the
money to buy a 8.8 or d44 & have all the brackets welded on. Mine
sounds real bad, seems to be from the center part not axle bearings &
don't want to waste any money on this old d35 if I can just swap it
out for cheap. So if some one is wanting to upgrade or already has I
am interested.
Thanks
John
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23976 From: HySteRiA <hysteria62@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:53pm
Subject: Re: FR-42 meeting place??
Second Circle K??? It's been so long since I've gone through there.. I don't even remember the first Circle K! What other businesses are right around the 2nd one?
Steve Farris wrote:
Which Circle K is this. If I'm not mistaken, when I go out there I
pass more than one Circle K. Sorry if you've already read this once
but if I'm going to go I'd like to have a definite place to meet.
This all really depends on how you get out there as to the second
Circle K.
Steve
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23977 From: Steve Farris <azjeeper@n...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:56pm
Subject: YJ Dana 30 upgrade
If this is a stupid question, please ignore it. Can you upgrade to
Warn high strength inners and outers with 297x ujoints in a YJ with
the same axles as a TJ? They seam to be the same length. Seems to me
you could just seal up the disconnect and forget it. If this is
possible, couldn't you upgrade to the better 5 on 5.5 hubs? Thanx.
Steve 94YJ
23978 From: Jesus Chio - AllOffRoad <jchio@a...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 2:42pm
Subject: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
The challenger one we featured this month looks beefy, check it out...
http://www.alloffroad.com/issue/2001/may/contents/steering_box_skid.htm
Jesus Chio
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Krieg" <rv6a@m...>
To: "Michael Earls" <michael@c...>; "AZ Virtual Jeep Club List
(E-mail)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
> DEFINATELY get a steering box skidplate. The box on the TJ is very
> unprotected.
>
> Chris K
>
> > From: "Michael Earls" <michael@c...>
> > Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:07:07 -0700
> > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club List \(E-mail\)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > We're driving a 2001 stock TJ and we're looking to ensure that we have
> > things covered in the event of a surprise attack from a rock. We will
be
> > using our Jeep to explore the state, not so much to play on the
"playground"
> > (though we do this from time to time to "practice").
> >
> > I know we'll need to install a Gas tank skid plate, but what about the
> > front? I'd hate to break something while on a trail and not be ready
for
> > it.
> >
> > What are the most common parts to get sacrificed on the 3.5 and lower
> > trails?
> >
> > We have stock clearance and 30" tires. We do not plan to lift it or get
> > bigger tires so spare parts (or underbody armor) are the answer(s) we're
> > looking for.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Michael and Laurie Earls
> > 2001 Silver TJ
> > http://www.cerkit.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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23979 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 5:07am
Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 upgrade
Steve you can install the TJ style axles from Warn but if you have front
locker of any type you may want to do as I did and install the Warn hub kit
so you can unlock the front wheels. The 5 on 5 is also an option when
putting in the hub kit.
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
http://stk-yj.alloffroad.com/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Farris" <azjeeper@n...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:56 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 upgrade
> If this is a stupid question, please ignore it. Can you upgrade to
> Warn high strength inners and outers with 297x ujoints in a YJ with
> the same axles as a TJ? They seam to be the same length. Seems to me
> you could just seal up the disconnect and forget it. If this is
> possible, couldn't you upgrade to the better 5 on 5.5 hubs? Thanx.
>
> Steve 94YJ
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
23980 From: <Tjacobson@A...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 5:16am
Subject: Sat Night Runs - ON, Tom J. - OFF
Looks like my Jeep is still sick, so probably won't make the runs
tonight. Was really looking forward to going out.
Thought the belt was looking good, but when I got home last night, it
was starting to "walk" forward again. And it looks like the power
steering pump is going to be casualty as well...it's got a decent
little leakage going now. I'm not going to "that guy" who shows up
to a run with a wounded rig and expects everyone else to put up with
my problems...well, at least the Jeep's problems!
Anyone got a mechanic in the Mesa/Tempe/Chandler area to recommend?
That would also be open today (Sat)?
Tom J. (Sick - not in a cool way - YJ)
23981 From: <Tjacobson@A...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 5:41am
Subject: Re: GPS Coords PLEASE!!!
Talked to Mike last night and tried to give some verbal
instructions. In case no GPS coords come thru, I'll try to write the
directions here. Please clarify/correct me if something doesn't
sound right.
Taking the dirt road in from Hwy 60, you'll get to the area where it
get's a little twisty and there are a series of quick ups/downs.
Right after that, the road out to 79 (what is that, about 6-7 mile
in?) and to the camping area will be on your right. Passing by that
road, continue about 100 yds and you'll be turning left into a wash
(this is at the East end of Lower Woodpecker). Continuing along that
wash for maybe a 1/4 mi, Upper Woodpecker is on the left. Pass that
and continue along the main dirt road thru the wash. Not too much
further, the main road will appear to go straight (going straight,
this part of the road pretty much parallels Ajax) or make a 90° right
down into and across a wash. You want to turn right, but don't cross
the wash. Turn left up the middle of this wash and you'll be on
Lower Ajax!
You pretty much stay in the wash to run Ajax. The trail will cris-
cross that road a few times. I can't really think of a landmark that
denotes the end of lower/start of upper Ajax, but you'll be crossing
the road heading more or less North and the trail on the North side
looks a "little more difficult" ;) than what you've been running (you
can skip that as it just loops right back out to the road, and I
believe that the rest of Upper is on the right hand side (South) of
the road.
Good luck!
TJ (REALLY wantin to go now!)
--- In az_vjc@y..., Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...> wrote:
> Can someone give me or Larry F. the GPS for lower Ajax? Tom is
still
> having prob with his belt and is not sure if he will make it
tomarrow. I
> can follow the wash, but need to know how to get to the wash. If
you can
> post to the board so Larry F. can get I would appreciate it.
Larry, what
> did you mention earlier about specific coordinates?
>
>
>
> =====
> Mike Baney
> 2001 TJ
>
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23982 From: <Jeepguy@z...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 7:22am
Subject: FR 42 directions
Can anyone tell me how to get to FR42 from the east valley? I'm going
to be heading up there from the Gilbert area and I have no idea where
to go except that it is WAY north!! Thanks.... -Rob
23983 From: <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 8:14am
Subject: Re: TV Show to watch
I was looking on the Fox News menu of programs (I have Qwest cable
and this is channel 55) and all I saw was a show called Fox Magazine
from 7:00 to 7:30 PM. Is this the program? Nothing else looks close.
Larry
--- In az_vjc@y..., mred@m... wrote:
> I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
> the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
> story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
> broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
>
> ================================================== ===============
>
> "VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
> MAY 19, 20TH.
>
> SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
> SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
>
> THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
> ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS, STOPPING
> ENERGY PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING
> THOUSANDS OUT OF WORK.
>
> IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT FOX ALSO LOOKS AT
> EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE GROUSE TO
> JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN AMERICAN
> WAY OF LIFE..
>
> OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
>
> - AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE
> AMERICANS LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
> - THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
> - ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
> - GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND
> WILDLIFE SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL
> ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA.
> - ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE
> DAMS, NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL
> MINING
>
> ================================================== ==============
23984 From: <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 8:17am
Subject: Re: TV Show to watch
However, on Sunday at 5:00 PM the menu shows O'Reilly Factor.???
Larry
--- In az_vjc@y..., highupjeep@q... wrote:
> I was looking on the Fox News menu of programs (I have Qwest cable
> and this is channel 55) and all I saw was a show called Fox
Magazine
> from 7:00 to 7:30 PM. Is this the program? Nothing else looks close.
>
> Larry
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., mred@m... wrote:
> > I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
> > the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
> > story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
> > broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
> >
> > ================================================== ===============
> >
> > "VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
> > MAY 19, 20TH.
> >
> > SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
> > SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
> >
> > THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
> > ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS,
STOPPING
> > ENERGY PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING
> > THOUSANDS OUT OF WORK.
> >
> > IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT FOX ALSO LOOKS AT
> > EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE GROUSE TO
> > JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN
AMERICAN
> > WAY OF LIFE..
> >
> > OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
> >
> > - AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE
> > AMERICANS LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
> > - THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
> > - ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
> > - GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND
> > WILDLIFE SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL
> > ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA.
> > - ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE
> > DAMS, NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL
> > MINING
> >
> > ================================================== ==============
23985 From: Bill Witt <k7ant@t...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 8:38am
Subject: Re: Re: TV Show to watch
Yes, I have Direct TV here and can't find it either! HELP! Where did you
guys get
this info???
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: <highupjeep@q...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 8:17 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: TV Show to watch
> However, on Sunday at 5:00 PM the menu shows O'Reilly Factor.???
>
> Larry
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., highupjeep@q... wrote:
> > I was looking on the Fox News menu of programs (I have Qwest cable
> > and this is channel 55) and all I saw was a show called Fox
> Magazine
> > from 7:00 to 7:30 PM. Is this the program? Nothing else looks close.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., mred@m... wrote:
> > > I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
> > > the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
> > > story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
> > > broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
> > >
> > > ================================================== ===============
> > >
> > > "VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
> > > MAY 19, 20TH.
> > >
> > > SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
> > > SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
> > >
> > > THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
> > > ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS,
> STOPPING
> > > ENERGY PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING
> > > THOUSANDS OUT OF WORK.
> > >
> > > IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT FOX ALSO LOOKS AT
> > > EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE GROUSE TO
> > > JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN
> AMERICAN
> > > WAY OF LIFE..
> > >
> > > OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
> > >
> > > - AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE
> > > AMERICANS LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
> > > - THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
> > > - ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
> > > - GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND
> > > WILDLIFE SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL
> > > ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA.
> > > - ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE
> > > DAMS, NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL
> > > MINING
> > >
> > > ================================================== ==============
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
23986 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 8:52am
Subject: RE: Re: TV Show to watch
THANKS!!!!
I have Qwest cable too but completely missed it on that channel.
Outstanding! I appreciate the heads up! I'll check it out.
Stu
-----Original Message-----
From: highupjeep@q... [mailto:highupjeep@q...]
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 8:14 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: TV Show to watch
I was looking on the Fox News menu of programs (I have Qwest cable
and this is channel 55) and all I saw was a show called Fox Magazine
from 7:00 to 7:30 PM. Is this the program? Nothing else looks close.
Larry
--- In az_vjc@y..., mred@m... wrote:
> I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
> the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
> story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
> broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
>
> ================================================== ===============
>
> "VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
> MAY 19, 20TH.
>
> SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
> SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
>
> THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
> ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS, STOPPING
> ENERGY PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING
> THOUSANDS OUT OF WORK.
>
> IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT FOX ALSO LOOKS AT
> EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE GROUSE TO
> JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN AMERICAN
> WAY OF LIFE..
>
> OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
>
> - AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE
> AMERICANS LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
> - THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
> - ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
> - GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND
> WILDLIFE SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL
> ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA.
> - ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE
> DAMS, NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL
> MINING
>
> ================================================== ==============
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23987 From: <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 8:53am
Subject: Re: TV Show to watch
I'm going to go ahead and set the VCR to record Fox Magazine at 7:00
PM, but I have my doubts about that being the correct show. Sunday a
5:00 PM is the O'Reilly Factor ... something does not make sense.
Larry
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> THANKS!!!!
>
> I have Qwest cable too but completely missed it on that channel.
>
> Outstanding! I appreciate the heads up! I'll check it out.
>
> Stu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: highupjeep@q... [mailto:highupjeep@q...]
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 8:14 AM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: TV Show to watch
>
>
> I was looking on the Fox News menu of programs (I have Qwest cable
> and this is channel 55) and all I saw was a show called Fox
Magazine
> from 7:00 to 7:30 PM. Is this the program? Nothing else looks close.
>
> Larry
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., mred@m... wrote:
> > I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
> > the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
> > story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
> > broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
> >
> > ================================================== ===============
> >
> > "VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
> > MAY 19, 20TH.
> >
> > SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
> > SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
> >
> > THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
> > ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS,
STOPPING
> > ENERGY PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING
> > THOUSANDS OUT OF WORK.
> >
> > IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT FOX ALSO LOOKS AT
> > EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE GROUSE TO
> > JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN
AMERICAN
> > WAY OF LIFE..
> >
> > OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
> >
> > - AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE
> > AMERICANS LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
> > - THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
> > - ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
> > - GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND
> > WILDLIFE SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL
> > ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA.
> > - ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE
> > DAMS, NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL
> > MINING
> >
> > ================================================== ==============
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
23988 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 10:01am
Subject: Re: FR 42 directions
From the east valley take Loop 101 north until you have to get off. Go west until you get to Scottsdale Rd and turn north. Scottsdale Rd turns into Tom Darlington at the Carefree Hwy. Follow Tom Darlington until it ends at Cave Creek Rd. Turn left and proceed to the first Circle K on the right.
Scott
Jeepguy@zombieweb.com wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to get to FR42 from the east valley? I'm going
to be heading up there from the Gilbert area and I have no idea where
to go except that it is WAY north!! Thanks.... -Rob
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23989 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 10:06am
Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 upgrade
The hub conversion will cost you around $800 from what I've seen. That's
half of what I've got in the Dana 44 I just swapped into my YJ. It's certainly
a matter of personal preference, but I felt it was worth it to do the Dana 44
swap instead of just the hub conversion.
If you have any questions about the Dana 44 swap, shoot me an email.
-Roger
Hackle wrote:
> Steve you can install the TJ style axles from Warn but if you have front
> locker of any type you may want to do as I did and install the Warn hub kit
> so you can unlock the front wheels. The 5 on 5 is also an option when
> putting in the hub kit.
>
> I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
> http://stk-yj.alloffroad.com/index.html
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Farris" <azjeeper@n...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:56 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 upgrade
>
> > If this is a stupid question, please ignore it. Can you upgrade to
> > Warn high strength inners and outers with 297x ujoints in a YJ with
> > the same axles as a TJ? They seam to be the same length. Seems to me
> > you could just seal up the disconnect and forget it. If this is
> > possible, couldn't you upgrade to the better 5 on 5.5 hubs? Thanx.
> >
> > Steve 94YJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
23990 From: <Jeepguy@z...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 11:06am
Subject: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
Keep all that with you and you know what will happen?
Your "SuperBelt" will snap, or your battery will die! Murphy's law
will break whatever you DON'T take with you, so here is my
suggestion... 1) Handheld GPS 2) CB or other type of communication
device you can use to transmit your GPS coord. with. 3) Survival Kit
including food and water (get a weeks worth of MREs from an army
surplus store... taste like crap but you'll stay alive. 4) Distress
beacon. There are some really kewl survival kits they make for downed
pilots that can be applied to Jeeps, I'm personally looking at
something like this....
http://www.eaglefsp.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?
Screen=PROD&Store_Code=EFS&Product_Code=E-250&Category_Code=STK
just my $.02 -Rob
--- In az_vjc@y..., joeclarkin@y... wrote:
> Howdy Michael --
>
> I have a setup much like yours. Mine does have a small lift and
> slightly larger tires (2" spacer lift, 31x10.5 tires). I also use
mine
> for more getting out into the boonies rather than off-roading for
the
> heck of it (not that there's anything wrong with that ...).
>
> I would recommend armor plating first. I have gas skid (tomken, I
> would get a kilby skid if I were to do it over again), engine skid
> (skid row, protects oilpan and more), steering box skid (rusty's)
and
> rocker panel protection (turbo city side bars). A little steel
makes a
> big difference in "survivability" for the Jeep. Skids are more
> important than lift IMO. Oil pan and gas tank skids are probably the
> most important. The steering box is also pretty expossed. Rocker
panel
> damage probably won't strand you anywhere, but it is still good to
> prevent on such a new vehicle.
>
> As mentioned in other posts, the dana 35 axle isn't strong. However,
> it should be ok on a stock Jeep with a sane driver. Spare axle
shafts
> aren't a bad idea though. Remember, you need more than axle shafts.
> You need tools, axles shafts, c clips, some RTV (and optionally a
> gasket), and gear oil. For tools you need some wrenches including an
> odball 1/4" 12 point box end wrench. You can possibly get away
without
> the weird wrench, but I wasn't able to once (fortunatly this was in
my
> garage).
>
> If you have a dana 44 axle, I wouldn't worry about it.
>
> The tie rod can get hit easilly since it is in the front. If you are
> unlucky or very aggressive, you could break it. It is much more
likely
> that you would bend it. A bent tie rod can be bent back (may take
the
> application of a lot of force, like slamming it into a rock). A
spare
> wouldn't be a bad idea. Even better, get a heavy duty one use the
> stocker as a spare. I haven't done this.
>
> You probably want to carry some engine oil (a 5 quart jug should be
> fine) as well as brake fluid, gear oil, possibly atf fluid (transfer
> case takes it, as well as auto transmission). This being arizona ---
> take LOTS of water.
>
> A decent set of wrenches and ratchets, torx drivers, screwdrivers, a
> hammer, etc are always handy. Some bailing wire and JB weld could
also
> come in handy. A breaker bar or cross wrench for the lug nuts might
> been needed.
>
> The Factory Service Manual might be a lifesaver, especially if you
> haven't done much work on motor vehicles. Even a Hayne's or
Chilton's
> is better than nothing though they don't compare to the FSM.
>
> Some common problem areas on the TJ include some of the sensors
> (particularly the TPS and CPS). If you do deeper water crossing (I
> don't if I am alone), you may need your spare oil, and some WD40 to
> spray out your distributer/alternator/starter.
>
> Communications gear could be handy. Cell phone, CB, whatever else
you
> have might be needed.
>
> If you are new to offroading (or new to little Jeeps), go out with
the
> club. It is very handy to see what these vehicles can do. It is
better
> to make your mistakes when people are around.
>
> Your TJ is a very capable vehicle. It can go just about anywhere any
> other stock vehicle can go and often to places other vehicles can't
> except with modification. But the Jeep is not designed to "power
> through" things. It is really more suited to finesse. Just take
things
> slow and easy. Your best "spare part" is your head. If you use it
> well, you probably won't break things on the trail. Don't neglect
> preventative maintainence. Become familiar with you vehicle so you
can
> tell when things aren't quite right so you can fix them before they
> leave you stranded.
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Michael Earls" <michael@c...> wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > We're driving a 2001 stock TJ and we're looking to ensure that we
> have
> > things covered in the event of a surprise attack from a rock. We
> will be
> > using our Jeep to explore the state, not so much to play on the
23991 From: Michael B. Wixom <mwixom@q...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 11:23am
Subject: Parts / Tires Available
I finally finished putting the RE 4.5 Extreme Duty lift and 33x12.50-15 MT\R's on my 85 CJ-7, so I have the following items available if anyone needs them.
(4) 31x10.50-15 BFG AT tires and factory Jeep chrome Spokes 5 on 5.5 probably 7". Tires have about 50% tread - 200.00
(4) Stock spring packs with new bushings, also have spring plates, u-bolts, shackles etc. 50.00
(1) open diff carrier & gears for the Dana 30 2.73/1 complete Free
(1) open diff carrier & gears for the AMC MDL 20 2.73/1 complete Free
(2) MDL 20 wide track axles / drive plates Free
(1) stock front sway bar & links Free
All of these parts are from an 85 CJ-7
Thanks
Michael B. Wixom
85 CJ-7 Finally Lifted & Locked (LSD'd)
23992 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 0:55pm
Subject: Fox News and Diredt TV
I noticed someone posted that they had Direct TV and could not find Fox News it is on channel 360. I did not see a program listed as Vanishing Freedoms though.
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
http://stk-yj.alloffroad.com/index.html
23993 From: <davisrandy2@n...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 2:29pm
Subject: trail run 5/25
Hi All
Randy here, my dad is in town and i would like to take
him on a trail run but friday is the only day and the
last day he will be in town.i'm thinking of doing
upper termminator if anybody wants to go friday
about 9:00am let me know!!!
Randy
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23994 From: Larry Farquhar <lfar@h...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 3:14pm
Subject: Misuse of azvjc current events
Perhaps it's just me, but I don't think the AZVJC web site's current events
area should be used to advertise services. It appears Harold Hoover, whom
I've never met, has started using this area for non AZVJC events.
I'm sure someone will correct me if I misunderstood the intent of the
current event area on the web site.
Larry F
23995 From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 3:34pm
Subject: Misuse of Current events area
I have to agree with Larry. I don't believe that the current events
section should be "commercialized". If an individual wishes to
advertise their business in this manner the space should be purchased.
John
23996 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 4:07pm
Subject: Re: Misuse of Current events area
I have to agree also. The intent was never for it to be a commercial forum.
Certainly, private individuals selling Jeep parts is perfect, but the other
stuff is spam and should not be posted, IMO. I see that Harold Hoover is
new, and probably just unfamiliar with the set up we have.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 3:34 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Misuse of Current events area
> I have to agree with Larry. I don't believe that the current events
> section should be "commercialized". If an individual wishes to
> advertise their business in this manner the space should be purchased.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
23997 From: James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 4:19pm
Subject: Re: FR 42 directions
Ok, so what time are we supposed to be meeting at the
Circle K?
JAmes
480-797-9989
See ya later!\
--- Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...> wrote:
>
> From the east valley take Loop 101 north until you
> have to get off. Go west until you get to Scottsdale
> Rd and turn north. Scottsdale Rd turns into Tom
> Darlington at the Carefree Hwy. Follow Tom
> Darlington until it ends at Cave Creek Rd. Turn left
> and proceed to the first Circle K on the right.
>
> Scott
>
>
> Jeepguy@z... wrote:
> Can anyone tell me how to get to FR42 from the east
> valley? I'm going
> to be heading up there from the Gilbert area and I
> have no idea where
> to go except that it is WAY north!! Thanks.... -Rob
>
>
>
>
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23998 From: <97tj@t...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 4:34pm
Subject: Keith Orr
I have made it down here, here is an e-mail and phone for where I am
at.
Thane
sidewinder@a...
1-505-358-2516
23999 From: Gary MacLaren <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 4:55pm
Subject: DIRECTIONS TO BLM MEETING
It has been brought to my attention that I failed to include directions for the location of the BLM Meeting on Wed. May 23, in Casa Grande.
These will work for both Tucson people, and those coming from the valley:
Exit I10 at 194, travel 3 miles to West on Florence Blvd. Elks Lodge is on South side of street.
Seeyathere
Gary
23975 From: Durham <bdurham@e...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:42pm
Subject: RE: Looking for a good rear axle for a ZJ with 3.73 gears.
My old cherokee was making bad noises when going around corners. I took the
rear diff apart and found a $5.00 bolt that holds the center pin to be worn
out. It might be worth your while to at least look at it.
brian
-----Original Message-----
From: trmn8rjn98@a... [mailto:trmn8rjn98@a...]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:58 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Looking for a good rear axle for a ZJ with 3.73 gears.
I know that linda is looking to replace hers & intend to e-mail her
about her old one(if you read this what are you doing with it?). I do
not care drum or disk but do want a stock ZJ one I don't have the
money to buy a 8.8 or d44 & have all the brackets welded on. Mine
sounds real bad, seems to be from the center part not axle bearings &
don't want to waste any money on this old d35 if I can just swap it
out for cheap. So if some one is wanting to upgrade or already has I
am interested.
Thanks
John
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23976 From: HySteRiA <hysteria62@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:53pm
Subject: Re: FR-42 meeting place??
Second Circle K??? It's been so long since I've gone through there.. I don't even remember the first Circle K! What other businesses are right around the 2nd one?
Steve Farris wrote:
Which Circle K is this. If I'm not mistaken, when I go out there I
pass more than one Circle K. Sorry if you've already read this once
but if I'm going to go I'd like to have a definite place to meet.
This all really depends on how you get out there as to the second
Circle K.
Steve
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23977 From: Steve Farris <azjeeper@n...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:56pm
Subject: YJ Dana 30 upgrade
If this is a stupid question, please ignore it. Can you upgrade to
Warn high strength inners and outers with 297x ujoints in a YJ with
the same axles as a TJ? They seam to be the same length. Seems to me
you could just seal up the disconnect and forget it. If this is
possible, couldn't you upgrade to the better 5 on 5.5 hubs? Thanx.
Steve 94YJ
23978 From: Jesus Chio - AllOffRoad <jchio@a...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 2:42pm
Subject: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
The challenger one we featured this month looks beefy, check it out...
http://www.alloffroad.com/issue/2001/may/contents/steering_box_skid.htm
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Krieg" <rv6a@m...>
To: "Michael Earls" <michael@c...>; "AZ Virtual Jeep Club List
(E-mail)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
> DEFINATELY get a steering box skidplate. The box on the TJ is very
> unprotected.
>
> Chris K
>
> > From: "Michael Earls" <michael@c...>
> > Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:07:07 -0700
> > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club List \(E-mail\)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > We're driving a 2001 stock TJ and we're looking to ensure that we have
> > things covered in the event of a surprise attack from a rock. We will
be
> > using our Jeep to explore the state, not so much to play on the
"playground"
> > (though we do this from time to time to "practice").
> >
> > I know we'll need to install a Gas tank skid plate, but what about the
> > front? I'd hate to break something while on a trail and not be ready
for
> > it.
> >
> > What are the most common parts to get sacrificed on the 3.5 and lower
> > trails?
> >
> > We have stock clearance and 30" tires. We do not plan to lift it or get
> > bigger tires so spare parts (or underbody armor) are the answer(s) we're
> > looking for.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Michael and Laurie Earls
> > 2001 Silver TJ
> > http://www.cerkit.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
23979 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 5:07am
Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 upgrade
Steve you can install the TJ style axles from Warn but if you have front
locker of any type you may want to do as I did and install the Warn hub kit
so you can unlock the front wheels. The 5 on 5 is also an option when
putting in the hub kit.
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Farris" <azjeeper@n...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:56 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 upgrade
> If this is a stupid question, please ignore it. Can you upgrade to
> Warn high strength inners and outers with 297x ujoints in a YJ with
> the same axles as a TJ? They seam to be the same length. Seems to me
> you could just seal up the disconnect and forget it. If this is
> possible, couldn't you upgrade to the better 5 on 5.5 hubs? Thanx.
>
> Steve 94YJ
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
23980 From: <Tjacobson@A...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 5:16am
Subject: Sat Night Runs - ON, Tom J. - OFF
Looks like my Jeep is still sick, so probably won't make the runs
tonight. Was really looking forward to going out.
Thought the belt was looking good, but when I got home last night, it
was starting to "walk" forward again. And it looks like the power
steering pump is going to be casualty as well...it's got a decent
little leakage going now. I'm not going to "that guy" who shows up
to a run with a wounded rig and expects everyone else to put up with
my problems...well, at least the Jeep's problems!
Anyone got a mechanic in the Mesa/Tempe/Chandler area to recommend?
That would also be open today (Sat)?
Tom J. (Sick - not in a cool way - YJ)
23981 From: <Tjacobson@A...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 5:41am
Subject: Re: GPS Coords PLEASE!!!
Talked to Mike last night and tried to give some verbal
instructions. In case no GPS coords come thru, I'll try to write the
directions here. Please clarify/correct me if something doesn't
sound right.
Taking the dirt road in from Hwy 60, you'll get to the area where it
get's a little twisty and there are a series of quick ups/downs.
Right after that, the road out to 79 (what is that, about 6-7 mile
in?) and to the camping area will be on your right. Passing by that
road, continue about 100 yds and you'll be turning left into a wash
(this is at the East end of Lower Woodpecker). Continuing along that
wash for maybe a 1/4 mi, Upper Woodpecker is on the left. Pass that
and continue along the main dirt road thru the wash. Not too much
further, the main road will appear to go straight (going straight,
this part of the road pretty much parallels Ajax) or make a 90° right
down into and across a wash. You want to turn right, but don't cross
the wash. Turn left up the middle of this wash and you'll be on
Lower Ajax!
You pretty much stay in the wash to run Ajax. The trail will cris-
cross that road a few times. I can't really think of a landmark that
denotes the end of lower/start of upper Ajax, but you'll be crossing
the road heading more or less North and the trail on the North side
looks a "little more difficult" ;) than what you've been running (you
can skip that as it just loops right back out to the road, and I
believe that the rest of Upper is on the right hand side (South) of
the road.
Good luck!
TJ (REALLY wantin to go now!)
--- In az_vjc@y..., Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...> wrote:
> Can someone give me or Larry F. the GPS for lower Ajax? Tom is
still
> having prob with his belt and is not sure if he will make it
tomarrow. I
> can follow the wash, but need to know how to get to the wash. If
you can
> post to the board so Larry F. can get I would appreciate it.
Larry, what
> did you mention earlier about specific coordinates?
>
>
>
> =====
> Mike Baney
> 2001 TJ
>
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23982 From: <Jeepguy@z...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 7:22am
Subject: FR 42 directions
Can anyone tell me how to get to FR42 from the east valley? I'm going
to be heading up there from the Gilbert area and I have no idea where
to go except that it is WAY north!! Thanks.... -Rob
23983 From: <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 8:14am
Subject: Re: TV Show to watch
I was looking on the Fox News menu of programs (I have Qwest cable
and this is channel 55) and all I saw was a show called Fox Magazine
from 7:00 to 7:30 PM. Is this the program? Nothing else looks close.
Larry
--- In az_vjc@y..., mred@m... wrote:
> I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
> the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
> story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
> broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
>
> ================================================== ===============
>
> "VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
> MAY 19, 20TH.
>
> SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
> SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
>
> THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
> ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS, STOPPING
> ENERGY PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING
> THOUSANDS OUT OF WORK.
>
> IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT FOX ALSO LOOKS AT
> EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE GROUSE TO
> JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN AMERICAN
> WAY OF LIFE..
>
> OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
>
> - AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE
> AMERICANS LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
> - THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
> - ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
> - GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND
> WILDLIFE SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL
> ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA.
> - ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE
> DAMS, NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL
> MINING
>
> ================================================== ==============
23984 From: <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 8:17am
Subject: Re: TV Show to watch
However, on Sunday at 5:00 PM the menu shows O'Reilly Factor.???
Larry
--- In az_vjc@y..., highupjeep@q... wrote:
> I was looking on the Fox News menu of programs (I have Qwest cable
> and this is channel 55) and all I saw was a show called Fox
Magazine
> from 7:00 to 7:30 PM. Is this the program? Nothing else looks close.
>
> Larry
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., mred@m... wrote:
> > I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
> > the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
> > story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
> > broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
> >
> > ================================================== ===============
> >
> > "VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
> > MAY 19, 20TH.
> >
> > SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
> > SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
> >
> > THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
> > ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS,
STOPPING
> > ENERGY PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING
> > THOUSANDS OUT OF WORK.
> >
> > IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT FOX ALSO LOOKS AT
> > EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE GROUSE TO
> > JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN
AMERICAN
> > WAY OF LIFE..
> >
> > OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
> >
> > - AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE
> > AMERICANS LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
> > - THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
> > - ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
> > - GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND
> > WILDLIFE SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL
> > ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA.
> > - ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE
> > DAMS, NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL
> > MINING
> >
> > ================================================== ==============
23985 From: Bill Witt <k7ant@t...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 8:38am
Subject: Re: Re: TV Show to watch
Yes, I have Direct TV here and can't find it either! HELP! Where did you
guys get
this info???
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: <highupjeep@q...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 8:17 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: TV Show to watch
> However, on Sunday at 5:00 PM the menu shows O'Reilly Factor.???
>
> Larry
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., highupjeep@q... wrote:
> > I was looking on the Fox News menu of programs (I have Qwest cable
> > and this is channel 55) and all I saw was a show called Fox
> Magazine
> > from 7:00 to 7:30 PM. Is this the program? Nothing else looks close.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., mred@m... wrote:
> > > I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
> > > the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
> > > story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
> > > broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
> > >
> > > ================================================== ===============
> > >
> > > "VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
> > > MAY 19, 20TH.
> > >
> > > SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
> > > SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
> > >
> > > THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
> > > ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS,
> STOPPING
> > > ENERGY PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING
> > > THOUSANDS OUT OF WORK.
> > >
> > > IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT FOX ALSO LOOKS AT
> > > EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE GROUSE TO
> > > JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN
> AMERICAN
> > > WAY OF LIFE..
> > >
> > > OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
> > >
> > > - AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE
> > > AMERICANS LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
> > > - THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
> > > - ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
> > > - GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND
> > > WILDLIFE SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL
> > > ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA.
> > > - ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE
> > > DAMS, NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL
> > > MINING
> > >
> > > ================================================== ==============
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
23986 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 8:52am
Subject: RE: Re: TV Show to watch
THANKS!!!!
I have Qwest cable too but completely missed it on that channel.
Outstanding! I appreciate the heads up! I'll check it out.
Stu
-----Original Message-----
From: highupjeep@q... [mailto:highupjeep@q...]
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 8:14 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: TV Show to watch
I was looking on the Fox News menu of programs (I have Qwest cable
and this is channel 55) and all I saw was a show called Fox Magazine
from 7:00 to 7:30 PM. Is this the program? Nothing else looks close.
Larry
--- In az_vjc@y..., mred@m... wrote:
> I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
> the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
> story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
> broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
>
> ================================================== ===============
>
> "VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
> MAY 19, 20TH.
>
> SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
> SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
>
> THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
> ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS, STOPPING
> ENERGY PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING
> THOUSANDS OUT OF WORK.
>
> IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT FOX ALSO LOOKS AT
> EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE GROUSE TO
> JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN AMERICAN
> WAY OF LIFE..
>
> OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
>
> - AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE
> AMERICANS LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
> - THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
> - ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
> - GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND
> WILDLIFE SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL
> ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA.
> - ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE
> DAMS, NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL
> MINING
>
> ================================================== ==============
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23987 From: <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 8:53am
Subject: Re: TV Show to watch
I'm going to go ahead and set the VCR to record Fox Magazine at 7:00
PM, but I have my doubts about that being the correct show. Sunday a
5:00 PM is the O'Reilly Factor ... something does not make sense.
Larry
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> THANKS!!!!
>
> I have Qwest cable too but completely missed it on that channel.
>
> Outstanding! I appreciate the heads up! I'll check it out.
>
> Stu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: highupjeep@q... [mailto:highupjeep@q...]
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 8:14 AM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: TV Show to watch
>
>
> I was looking on the Fox News menu of programs (I have Qwest cable
> and this is channel 55) and all I saw was a show called Fox
Magazine
> from 7:00 to 7:30 PM. Is this the program? Nothing else looks close.
>
> Larry
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., mred@m... wrote:
> > I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
> > the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
> > story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
> > broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
> >
> > ================================================== ===============
> >
> > "VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
> > MAY 19, 20TH.
> >
> > SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
> > SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
> >
> > THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
> > ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS,
STOPPING
> > ENERGY PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING
> > THOUSANDS OUT OF WORK.
> >
> > IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT FOX ALSO LOOKS AT
> > EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE GROUSE TO
> > JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN
AMERICAN
> > WAY OF LIFE..
> >
> > OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
> >
> > - AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE
> > AMERICANS LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
> > - THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
> > - ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
> > - GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND
> > WILDLIFE SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL
> > ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA.
> > - ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE
> > DAMS, NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL
> > MINING
> >
> > ================================================== ==============
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
23988 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 10:01am
Subject: Re: FR 42 directions
From the east valley take Loop 101 north until you have to get off. Go west until you get to Scottsdale Rd and turn north. Scottsdale Rd turns into Tom Darlington at the Carefree Hwy. Follow Tom Darlington until it ends at Cave Creek Rd. Turn left and proceed to the first Circle K on the right.
Scott
Jeepguy@zombieweb.com wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to get to FR42 from the east valley? I'm going
to be heading up there from the Gilbert area and I have no idea where
to go except that it is WAY north!! Thanks.... -Rob
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23989 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 10:06am
Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 upgrade
The hub conversion will cost you around $800 from what I've seen. That's
half of what I've got in the Dana 44 I just swapped into my YJ. It's certainly
a matter of personal preference, but I felt it was worth it to do the Dana 44
swap instead of just the hub conversion.
If you have any questions about the Dana 44 swap, shoot me an email.
-Roger
Hackle wrote:
> Steve you can install the TJ style axles from Warn but if you have front
> locker of any type you may want to do as I did and install the Warn hub kit
> so you can unlock the front wheels. The 5 on 5 is also an option when
> putting in the hub kit.
>
> I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
> http://stk-yj.alloffroad.com/index.html
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Farris" <azjeeper@n...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:56 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 upgrade
>
> > If this is a stupid question, please ignore it. Can you upgrade to
> > Warn high strength inners and outers with 297x ujoints in a YJ with
> > the same axles as a TJ? They seam to be the same length. Seems to me
> > you could just seal up the disconnect and forget it. If this is
> > possible, couldn't you upgrade to the better 5 on 5.5 hubs? Thanx.
> >
> > Steve 94YJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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23990 From: <Jeepguy@z...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 11:06am
Subject: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
Keep all that with you and you know what will happen?
Your "SuperBelt" will snap, or your battery will die! Murphy's law
will break whatever you DON'T take with you, so here is my
suggestion... 1) Handheld GPS 2) CB or other type of communication
device you can use to transmit your GPS coord. with. 3) Survival Kit
including food and water (get a weeks worth of MREs from an army
surplus store... taste like crap but you'll stay alive. 4) Distress
beacon. There are some really kewl survival kits they make for downed
pilots that can be applied to Jeeps, I'm personally looking at
something like this....
http://www.eaglefsp.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?
Screen=PROD&Store_Code=EFS&Product_Code=E-250&Category_Code=STK
just my $.02 -Rob
--- In az_vjc@y..., joeclarkin@y... wrote:
> Howdy Michael --
>
> I have a setup much like yours. Mine does have a small lift and
> slightly larger tires (2" spacer lift, 31x10.5 tires). I also use
mine
> for more getting out into the boonies rather than off-roading for
the
> heck of it (not that there's anything wrong with that ...).
>
> I would recommend armor plating first. I have gas skid (tomken, I
> would get a kilby skid if I were to do it over again), engine skid
> (skid row, protects oilpan and more), steering box skid (rusty's)
and
> rocker panel protection (turbo city side bars). A little steel
makes a
> big difference in "survivability" for the Jeep. Skids are more
> important than lift IMO. Oil pan and gas tank skids are probably the
> most important. The steering box is also pretty expossed. Rocker
panel
> damage probably won't strand you anywhere, but it is still good to
> prevent on such a new vehicle.
>
> As mentioned in other posts, the dana 35 axle isn't strong. However,
> it should be ok on a stock Jeep with a sane driver. Spare axle
shafts
> aren't a bad idea though. Remember, you need more than axle shafts.
> You need tools, axles shafts, c clips, some RTV (and optionally a
> gasket), and gear oil. For tools you need some wrenches including an
> odball 1/4" 12 point box end wrench. You can possibly get away
without
> the weird wrench, but I wasn't able to once (fortunatly this was in
my
> garage).
>
> If you have a dana 44 axle, I wouldn't worry about it.
>
> The tie rod can get hit easilly since it is in the front. If you are
> unlucky or very aggressive, you could break it. It is much more
likely
> that you would bend it. A bent tie rod can be bent back (may take
the
> application of a lot of force, like slamming it into a rock). A
spare
> wouldn't be a bad idea. Even better, get a heavy duty one use the
> stocker as a spare. I haven't done this.
>
> You probably want to carry some engine oil (a 5 quart jug should be
> fine) as well as brake fluid, gear oil, possibly atf fluid (transfer
> case takes it, as well as auto transmission). This being arizona ---
> take LOTS of water.
>
> A decent set of wrenches and ratchets, torx drivers, screwdrivers, a
> hammer, etc are always handy. Some bailing wire and JB weld could
also
> come in handy. A breaker bar or cross wrench for the lug nuts might
> been needed.
>
> The Factory Service Manual might be a lifesaver, especially if you
> haven't done much work on motor vehicles. Even a Hayne's or
Chilton's
> is better than nothing though they don't compare to the FSM.
>
> Some common problem areas on the TJ include some of the sensors
> (particularly the TPS and CPS). If you do deeper water crossing (I
> don't if I am alone), you may need your spare oil, and some WD40 to
> spray out your distributer/alternator/starter.
>
> Communications gear could be handy. Cell phone, CB, whatever else
you
> have might be needed.
>
> If you are new to offroading (or new to little Jeeps), go out with
the
> club. It is very handy to see what these vehicles can do. It is
better
> to make your mistakes when people are around.
>
> Your TJ is a very capable vehicle. It can go just about anywhere any
> other stock vehicle can go and often to places other vehicles can't
> except with modification. But the Jeep is not designed to "power
> through" things. It is really more suited to finesse. Just take
things
> slow and easy. Your best "spare part" is your head. If you use it
> well, you probably won't break things on the trail. Don't neglect
> preventative maintainence. Become familiar with you vehicle so you
can
> tell when things aren't quite right so you can fix them before they
> leave you stranded.
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Michael Earls" <michael@c...> wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > We're driving a 2001 stock TJ and we're looking to ensure that we
> have
> > things covered in the event of a surprise attack from a rock. We
> will be
> > using our Jeep to explore the state, not so much to play on the
23991 From: Michael B. Wixom <mwixom@q...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 11:23am
Subject: Parts / Tires Available
I finally finished putting the RE 4.5 Extreme Duty lift and 33x12.50-15 MT\R's on my 85 CJ-7, so I have the following items available if anyone needs them.
(4) 31x10.50-15 BFG AT tires and factory Jeep chrome Spokes 5 on 5.5 probably 7". Tires have about 50% tread - 200.00
(4) Stock spring packs with new bushings, also have spring plates, u-bolts, shackles etc. 50.00
(1) open diff carrier & gears for the Dana 30 2.73/1 complete Free
(1) open diff carrier & gears for the AMC MDL 20 2.73/1 complete Free
(2) MDL 20 wide track axles / drive plates Free
(1) stock front sway bar & links Free
All of these parts are from an 85 CJ-7
Thanks
Michael B. Wixom
85 CJ-7 Finally Lifted & Locked (LSD'd)
23992 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 0:55pm
Subject: Fox News and Diredt TV
I noticed someone posted that they had Direct TV and could not find Fox News it is on channel 360. I did not see a program listed as Vanishing Freedoms though.
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23993 From: <davisrandy2@n...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 2:29pm
Subject: trail run 5/25
Hi All
Randy here, my dad is in town and i would like to take
him on a trail run but friday is the only day and the
last day he will be in town.i'm thinking of doing
upper termminator if anybody wants to go friday
about 9:00am let me know!!!
Randy
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23994 From: Larry Farquhar <lfar@h...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 3:14pm
Subject: Misuse of azvjc current events
Perhaps it's just me, but I don't think the AZVJC web site's current events
area should be used to advertise services. It appears Harold Hoover, whom
I've never met, has started using this area for non AZVJC events.
I'm sure someone will correct me if I misunderstood the intent of the
current event area on the web site.
Larry F
23995 From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 3:34pm
Subject: Misuse of Current events area
I have to agree with Larry. I don't believe that the current events
section should be "commercialized". If an individual wishes to
advertise their business in this manner the space should be purchased.
John
23996 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 4:07pm
Subject: Re: Misuse of Current events area
I have to agree also. The intent was never for it to be a commercial forum.
Certainly, private individuals selling Jeep parts is perfect, but the other
stuff is spam and should not be posted, IMO. I see that Harold Hoover is
new, and probably just unfamiliar with the set up we have.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 3:34 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Misuse of Current events area
> I have to agree with Larry. I don't believe that the current events
> section should be "commercialized". If an individual wishes to
> advertise their business in this manner the space should be purchased.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
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>
>
23997 From: James Smith <jeepinsmitty@y...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 4:19pm
Subject: Re: FR 42 directions
Ok, so what time are we supposed to be meeting at the
Circle K?
JAmes
480-797-9989
See ya later!\
--- Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...> wrote:
>
> From the east valley take Loop 101 north until you
> have to get off. Go west until you get to Scottsdale
> Rd and turn north. Scottsdale Rd turns into Tom
> Darlington at the Carefree Hwy. Follow Tom
> Darlington until it ends at Cave Creek Rd. Turn left
> and proceed to the first Circle K on the right.
>
> Scott
>
>
> Jeepguy@z... wrote:
> Can anyone tell me how to get to FR42 from the east
> valley? I'm going
> to be heading up there from the Gilbert area and I
> have no idea where
> to go except that it is WAY north!! Thanks.... -Rob
>
>
>
>
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23998 From: <97tj@t...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 4:34pm
Subject: Keith Orr
I have made it down here, here is an e-mail and phone for where I am
at.
Thane
sidewinder@a...
1-505-358-2516
23999 From: Gary MacLaren <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 4:55pm
Subject: DIRECTIONS TO BLM MEETING
It has been brought to my attention that I failed to include directions for the location of the BLM Meeting on Wed. May 23, in Casa Grande.
These will work for both Tucson people, and those coming from the valley:
Exit I10 at 194, travel 3 miles to West on Florence Blvd. Elks Lodge is on South side of street.
Seeyathere
Gary