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23950 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 3:19pm
Subject: Ajax CANCELED
Since I don't know where the trail starts, and no one else wants to lead,
I am canceling the trip. Looks like I will do the FR42 trail.
=====
Mike Baney
2001 TJ
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23951 From: Joey K <joey@j...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 3:36pm
Subject: Fire extinguisher
Just got back from Auto Safety House. They supply lots of TRUCK parts including fire extinguishers. The rechargeable 2.5 lb with METAL bracket is on sale for 20 bucks. 2630 W. Buckeye. It is the NE corner of 27th ave. and Buckeye. I know there are some people with the Home Depot $10 failing plastic bracket that were inquiring about a better unit. Well they have it.
Not sure how long the sale is or if they are open on the weekend so here is there number 602-269-9721.
Joey K
93YJ w/extinguisher
www.desertjeep.com
ps sorry for the plug but I got a great deal on some steps for my Jeep.
23952 From: Tom Quinn <tom@q...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 11:50am
Subject: Fw: AZVJC Web Site
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerome lobel" <jerrylobel@j...>
To: <tom@q...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 3:59 PM
Subject: AZVJC Web Site
> Dear Tom:
>
> I am a new member of az_vjc, and do not know how to write a message to a
> message board or to chat with other members. As an example of of
> something I would like to communicate, I just pulled a very nice set of
> running boards off of my super 1991 Jeep Cherokee. I am sure someone
> (handicapped?) would love to install these running boards on their
> Cherokee. How do I get the word out? Thank you for your help.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jerry Lobel
> Phone 602-953-9371
> E-mail: jerrylobel@j...
23953 From: Larry Farquhar <lfar@h...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 3:45pm
Subject: RE: Ajax CANCELED
Looks like I'll be on the FR42 run now.
Can we get clarification on the meeting time and place for the FR42 run on
Saturday evening? Isn't 8:00pm late?
Larry F
'01 TJ - "Wyle E"
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Baney [mailto:jeepin_in_az@y...]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 3:19 PM
To: Jeep List
Subject: [az_vjc] Ajax CANCELED
Since I don't know where the trail starts, and no one else wants to lead,
I am canceling the trip. Looks like I will do the FR42 trail.
=====
Mike Baney
2001 TJ
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23954 From: <mred@m...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:03pm
Subject: TV Show to watch
I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
================================================== ===============
"VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
MAY 19, 20TH.
SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS, STOPPING
ENERGY PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING
THOUSANDS OUT OF WORK.
IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT FOX ALSO LOOKS AT
EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE GROUSE TO
JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN AMERICAN
WAY OF LIFE..
OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
- AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE
AMERICANS LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
- THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
- ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
- GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND
WILDLIFE SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL
ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA.
- ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE
DAMS, NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL
MINING
================================================== ==============
23955 From: <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:19pm
Subject: From Chris - Rat Patrol
Chris has sent you a free greeting card!
You may pick it up at the following address:
http://cards.webshots.com/65972201387
Click on the link above to view your postcard. You can also view
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entering your postcard number.
Your personal postcard number is: 65972201387
Thanks!
ps. Chris also suggests you try out the Webshots Desktop
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23956 From: Joey K <joey@j...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:34pm
Subject: RE: From Chris - Rat Patrol
That's an idea. Then you won't have to carry a spare on board!!! ;-)
Joey K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: my1stjeep@e... [mailto:my1stjeep@e...]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 4:20 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] From Chris - Rat Patrol
>
>
> Chris has sent you a free greeting card! You may pick it up at
> the following address: http://cards.webshots.com/65972201387
> Click on the link above to view your postcard. You can also view
> your card by visiting http://cards.webshots.com/pickup.html and
> entering your postcard number. Your personal postcard number
> is: 65972201387 Thanks! ps. Chris also suggests you try out
> the Webshots Desktop software to display thousands of incredible
> photos on your desktop wallpaper and screen saver. It's fun,
> easy, and FREE. You can download it for FREE from:
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23957 From: Mr Ed <mred@m...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:39pm
Subject: Interesting reading (It's Long")
Eco-Terror' Takes Its Toll
This weekend, in
Vanishing Freedom II:
Who Owns America?
Fox News takes a look at how some forms of environmentalism chip away at
individuals' personal and property rights.
Hosted by William LaJeunesse, the special airs
Saturday May 19 at 10 p.m. ET/7 p.m. PT and
Sunday May 20 at 8 p.m. ET/5 p.m. PT. To find Fox
News Channel on your local cable system, click here.
In this, one of several stories from the special, Fox News looks at how
environmental extremists are taking their wars to ever-more-extreme lengths.
PORTLAND, Ore. - They think of themselves as the army of Mother Earth,
the only soldiers defending the natural world in a guerilla war against
corporations and uncaring governments. They are willing to go to extreme
lengths for their mission.
Others call them eco-terrorists."It's all about anarchy, revolution
and terrorism," said private investigator Barry Clausen, an author who has made
a career out of infiltrating what he calls "eco-terror" groups.
Using increasingly violent tactics, these extremist groups are waging war
against what they see as the enemy - lumber companies, research labs,
even car dealerships.
"We can no longer allow the rich to parade around in their armored
existence," the Earth Liberation Front said in a statement following an attack
on a Portland, Ore., car dealership selling sport-utility vehicles.
In the last few years, the ELF, the most well-known group in the radical fringe,
has taken credit for attacks on Michigan State University's Agriculture Hall, a
ranger station, a Colorado ski lodge and two lumber companies.
The ELF isn't alone. From the Strawberry Liberation Front to the Anarchist
Golfing Association, radical-environmentalist wrecking crews are vandalizing
spots across the country.
Last year, a group trampled the Cold Springs, N.Y., cornfield where Nobel
Prize-winning genetics research has been done. Turns out that the corn they
trampled was entirely natural, not the genetically engineered variety that the
group was apparently protesting. "We've seen it go from demonstrations
and protests - which are the American way - and lobbying Congress"
to "a large-scale quantity of arsons throughout the country," FBI Special
Agent David Szady said.
The washboard and protest sign? They're giving way to the Molotov ****tail
and fertilizer bomb.
"When you look at where they buy their literature, it doesn't just include arson.
It includes how to manufacture some pretty serious bombs," Clausen said.
And with every spurt of violence, mainstream environmental groups cringe,
worrying that a handful of extremists are giving a bad name to a movement
that's been gaining strength with its concern over important issues.
But signs don't get results. Bombs do, the ELF says.
"They feel that mainstream tactics used throughout history to further the
environmental movement aren't working, and that it's time to take it a bit
further," said ELF spokesman Leslie James Pickering.
The definition of the traditional radical Green's target is changing. On Long
Island, ELF activists burned down 11 homes in a housing development as a
statement against urban sprawl.
"Those were not homes, they are houses, which are part of a development
that are threatening the last wild areas in Long Island,
" Pickering said."Property is not human, it is not violent to destroy property.
"Anyone, potentially, who is making a
profit off the destruction of the natural environment could be a target," he
said. "One of the goals is to put the corporation or target out of business
immediately."
The ELF routinely sabotages logging equipment, driving metal spikes into
trees that can later injure timber cutters. In California in one case, a man
nearly died, Clausen said.
"The saw blade hit the spikes, broke the blade," he said. "It wrapped around
an employee's body, it cut his jugular vein, tore out twelve teeth and broke
jaw. But he did live."
It's difficult in many cases to crack down on groups like the ELF because they
often don't have traditional organizations. The spokesman often doesn't know
the identity of other group members, while a small core group puts out a
free-form call for "direct action" that means any disgruntled teenager with an
environmental bent could decide he is working on behalf of ELF or another
group.
"They're an underground organization
that consists of numerous cells throughout the United States," Szady said.
Currently, the FBI is on guard in case the ELF escalates to letter bombs
targeting people it deems enemies to the Earth.
"We don't care what you believe - just don't commit criminal acts to further
those acts," Szady said. "As we often say, if you believe the world is flat, don't
just go around blowing it up to make it flat."
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23958 From: blake shepherd <blake@b...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:52pm
Subject: RE: Interesting reading (It's Long")
This is disturbing. Who are they to try and play GOD? The part about them putting spikes in timber really pisses me off.
I will be sure to tape this television episode.
Thanks ED
Blake
80CJ5
01 TJ
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Subject: [az_vjc] Interesting reading (It's Long")
Eco-Terror' Takes Its Toll
This weekend, in
Vanishing Freedom II:
Who Owns America?
Fox News takes a look at how some forms of environmentalism chip away at
individuals' personal and property rights.
Hosted by William LaJeunesse, the special airs
Saturday May 19 at 10 p.m. ET/7 p.m. PT and
Sunday May 20 at 8 p.m. ET/5 p.m. PT. To find Fox
News Channel on your local cable system, click here.
In this, one of several stories from the special, Fox News looks at how
environmental extremists are taking their wars to ever-more-extreme lengths.
PORTLAND, Ore. - They think of themselves as the army of Mother Earth,
the only soldiers defending the natural world in a guerilla war against
corporations and uncaring governments. They are willing to go to extreme
lengths for their mission.
Others call them eco-terrorists."It's all about anarchy, revolution
and terrorism," said private investigator Barry Clausen, an author who has made
a career out of infiltrating what he calls "eco-terror" groups.
Using increasingly violent tactics, these extremist groups are waging war
against what they see as the enemy - lumber companies, research labs,
even car dealerships.
"We can no longer allow the rich to parade around in their armored
existence," the Earth Liberation Front said in a statement following an attack
on a Portland, Ore., car dealership selling sport-utility vehicles.
In the last few years, the ELF, the most well-known group in the radical fringe,
has taken credit for attacks on Michigan State University's Agriculture Hall, a
ranger station, a Colorado ski lodge and two lumber companies.
The ELF isn't alone. From the Strawberry Liberation Front to the Anarchist
Golfing Association, radical-environmentalist wrecking crews are vandalizing
spots across the country.
Last year, a group trampled the Cold Springs, N.Y., cornfield where Nobel
Prize-winning genetics research has been done. Turns out that the corn they
trampled was entirely natural, not the genetically engineered variety that the
group was apparently protesting. "We've seen it go from demonstrations
and protests - which are the American way - and lobbying Congress"
to "a large-scale quantity of arsons throughout the country," FBI Special
Agent David Szady said.
The washboard and protest sign? They're giving way to the Molotov ****tail
and fertilizer bomb.
"When you look at where they buy their literature, it doesn't just include arson.
It includes how to manufacture some pretty serious bombs," Clausen said.
And with every spurt of violence, mainstream environmental groups cringe,
worrying that a handful of extremists are giving a bad name to a movement
that's been gaining strength with its concern over important issues.
But signs don't get results. Bombs do, the ELF says.
"They feel that mainstream tactics used throughout history to further the
environmental movement aren't working, and that it's time to take it a bit
further," said ELF spokesman Leslie James Pickering.
The definition of the traditional radical Green's target is changing. On Long
Island, ELF activists burned down 11 homes in a housing development as a
statement against urban sprawl.
"Those were not homes, they are houses, which are part of a development
that are threatening the last wild areas in Long Island,
" Pickering said."Property is not human, it is not violent to destroy property.
"Anyone, potentially, who is making a
profit off the destruction of the natural environment could be a target," he
said. "One of the goals is to put the corporation or target out of business
immediately."
The ELF routinely sabotages logging equipment, driving metal spikes into
trees that can later injure timber cutters. In California in one case, a man
nearly died, Clausen said.
"The saw blade hit the spikes, broke the blade," he said. "It wrapped around
an employee's body, it cut his jugular vein, tore out twelve teeth and broke
jaw. But he did live."
It's difficult in many cases to crack down on groups like the ELF because they
often don't have traditional organizations. The spokesman often doesn't know
the identity of other group members, while a small core group puts out a
free-form call for "direct action" that means any disgruntled teenager with an
environmental bent could decide he is working on behalf of ELF or another
group.
"They're an underground organization
that consists of numerous cells throughout the United States," Szady said.
Currently, the FBI is on guard in case the ELF escalates to letter bombs
targeting people it deems enemies to the Earth.
"We don't care what you believe - just don't commit criminal acts to further
those acts," Szady said. "As we often say, if you believe the world is flat, don't
just go around blowing it up to make it flat."
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23959 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:56pm
Subject: AJAX back on!
Ok,
Joey K, Tom J., Larry F, James T., and myself are back on for Ajax
Saturday night! We will meet at Texaco in FJ at 7:00. If anyone else
wants to go, give me a call.
480-628-0204
=====
Mike Baney
2001 TJ
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23960 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:56pm
Subject: AJAX back on!
Ok,
Joey K, Tom J., Larry F, James T., and myself are back on for Ajax
Saturday night! We will meet at Texaco in FJ at 7:00. If anyone else
wants to go, give me a call.
480-628-0204
=====
Mike Baney
2001 TJ
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23961 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:57pm
Subject: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
DEFINATELY get a steering box skidplate. The box on the TJ is very
unprotected.
Chris K
> From: "Michael Earls" <michael@c...>
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:07:07 -0700
> To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club List \(E-mail\)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [az_vjc] Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
>
> Greetings,
>
> We're driving a 2001 stock TJ and we're looking to ensure that we have
> things covered in the event of a surprise attack from a rock. We will be
> using our Jeep to explore the state, not so much to play on the "playground"
> (though we do this from time to time to "practice").
>
> I know we'll need to install a Gas tank skid plate, but what about the
> front? I'd hate to break something while on a trail and not be ready for
> it.
>
> What are the most common parts to get sacrificed on the 3.5 and lower
> trails?
>
> We have stock clearance and 30" tires. We do not plan to lift it or get
> bigger tires so spare parts (or underbody armor) are the answer(s) we're
> looking for.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael and Laurie Earls
> 2001 Silver TJ
> http://www.cerkit.com
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
23962 From: <slrnx@c...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:58pm
Subject: looking to trade yj springs
I have a set of some sweet stock springs for a yj 6 cylinder, they
are in great condition, and the thing that makes thme cool is they
have a full length add-a-leaf from Rubicon Express on each one to
prevent axle wrap. I am getting ladder bars, and don't need to
prevent axle wrap anymore.
The deal: I will trade my springs for your springs pending they are
a 2" lift, and they are not made by pro comp or dick cepek, or a
manufacturer similar with very poor quality control.
send me an email
23963 From: Jesus Chio - AllOffRoad <jchio@a...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 7:02am
Subject: Re: AJAX back on!
Dont forget the camera and good luck you guys!! Sounds like fun
Jesus Chio
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Baney" <jeepin_in_az@y...>
To: "Jeep List" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 4:56 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] AJAX back on!
> Ok,
> Joey K, Tom J., Larry F, James T., and myself are back on for Ajax
> Saturday night! We will meet at Texaco in FJ at 7:00. If anyone else
> wants to go, give me a call.
>
> 480-628-0204
>
>
>
> =====
> Mike Baney
> 2001 TJ
>
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23964 From: <97tj@t...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 5:09pm
Subject: Safford Area runs???
I will be in the Safford area this coming week and weekend. If anyone
is going to go out and do some trails I would love to tag along.
Lower Eagle Creek, Ariviapa, ect. I will check for any messages when
I get down south. Keith, if you read this and come up with a trail,
post it here please. Thank you,
Thane
97TJ
23965 From: TRobertsRN <TRobertsRN@e...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 5:36pm
Subject: Re: Free Stuff...R-12 A/C
I checked out the web site. Click on RB-276 and then comparison. There is
a comparison chart there. Looks like they are both replacements for R-12
with some differences. One of which is that Freeze 12 contains flammable
butane. I had almost gone with the Freeze 12 myself. Didn't know it
contained butane. Has anyone used this RB-276 stuff in a late 70's FSJ with
a York compressor?
Tom
78 Cherokee WT
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
To: Daryl Faust <louddog71@y...>
Cc: <FLEXYXJ@a...>; AZ jeep club <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Free Stuff...R-12 A/C
I thought the R-12 replacement was called "Freeze 12". I've also heard
that none of the A/C equipment manufacturers warranty their equipment
if Freeze 12 is run in it. I'm not sure how true this is, though.
-Roger
Daryl Faust wrote:
> FLAME FREE!
>
> Free zone is non-flamable non-toxic and completely
> approved by the EPA. It contains zero propane or
> butane. They use it for other uses also.
>
> I'm sure there's been some dangerous stuff out there
> in the past, but my brother is pretty sharp on air
> conditioning and he loves this stuff.
>
> Check out:
> http://www.rmsgas.com/freezoneoverview.htm
>
> --- FLEXYXJ@a... wrote:
> > Oh boy here we go...I was hoping I would NEVER see
> > this here....please dont
> > flame me for this but here it goes.... BLENDS they
> > are called...there are
> > many of them...I would not reccomend ANY of them due
> > to the fact that almost
> > all of them contain some sort of FLAMMABLE gas!!!!
> > Most contain propane,
> > heptane or butane in some amount.....can you see the
> > image now when somehow
> > ,someway there is either a leak or vehicle
> > problem/accident and a spark with
> > one of these "blends"??? Hmm can we say
> > BOOOOOOOM!!!! I know I cannot
> > fathom the sight of either of my Jeeps going BOOM
> > just to save a few
> > cents....NOW TECHNICALY YOU CAN CHARGE AN A/C SYSTEM
> > WITH PROPANE AND IT WILL
> > WORK....And it will blow cold also!!! (Did this in
> > my MACS cert class) But
> > very extrmely dangerous....Another thing you can do
> > and We have had fairly
> > good luck with it in vehicles with a large condenser
> > is to flush out all of
> > the R-12 mineral oil, add the recommended amount of
> > ESTER oil and charge the
> > system about 4-6oz LESS (than the R-12 amt) with
> > 134A....You DONOT have to
> > change O rings,go to barrier hose or any of that
> > other stuff that was once
> > thought....IT DOES WORK!!!! But R-12 is the best
> > way to go....but I would
> > rather not go to a funeral with an AZVJC decal on
> > the casket because you
> > saved a couple of bucks on a blend... ok???
> >
> >
> > FLEXY
> >
>
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23966 From: Gary MacLaren <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 6:02pm
Subject: BLM MEETING IN CASA GRANDE
This is a first reminder about the BLM meeting in C.G. on May 23 at the C.G. Elks Club,located at 909 E Florence Bvd. This meeting will deal with the changes that will be made in regard to the new Sonoran National Monument[created illegally by Slick Willie]. The area affected is West of Casa Grande, and will encompess the area near Tabletop Mt. At other landuse meetings the pro-access people were encouraged to wear RED, it is a good way to i.d. yourself as not a 'greenie'.
I hope to see a good number of you at this meeting, it is local, and we need a good turnout. Don't depend on someone else to do this for you.
The meeting is at the Elk's lodge on Florence Bvd, at 7pm, don't forget to wear RED!!!!!!!!
See you there.
Gary Mac Laren
23967 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 2:51pm
Subject: Re: 5-19 FR42 Trail
I plan on being there to try out my new shoes :)
See ya all there
Sharky
23968 From: Steve Farris <azjeeper@n...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 7:18pm
Subject: FR-42 meeting place??
Which Circle K is this. If I'm not mistaken, when I go out there I
pass more than one Circle K. Sorry if you've already read this once
but if I'm going to go I'd like to have a definite place to meet.
This all really depends on how you get out there as to the second
Circle K.
Steve
23969 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 7:36pm
Subject: RE: A must to watch FOX TV
Well, I just checked my digital feed and I get Fox Family, Fox, and Fox
Sports....but no Fox News.
If anyone on the west side tapes this, please let me know. I gladly swap a
tape with you for a copy.
Stu
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.chatfield@p... [mailto:mike.chatfield@p...]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:13 AM
To: Stu Olson
Subject: Re: A must to watch FOX TV
Can you tape both of them, please, pretty please? :)
Fox News Channel is not offered in my area, and won't be until
Digital Cable is ready.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Can anyone tell me if this is a two part series....or is it the
same program
> being offered on two nights. If it is a two parter....looks like
the VCR
> will be rolling for the first half.
>
> Thanks.......Stu
23970 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:00pm
Subject: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
The best 'spare part' you can bring along is another 4x4. Sorry if it
has already been mentioned. There's nothing worse than getting stuck of
breaking down when you're 20 miles from nowhere (even Nowhere, Az) and
have to walk to get help.
Linda
93 ZJ -- excessively modified
Michael Earls wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> We're driving a 2001 stock TJ and we're looking to ensure that we have
> things covered in the event of a surprise attack from a rock. We will be
> using our Jeep to explore the state, not so much to play on the "playground"
> (though we do this from time to time to "practice").
>
> I know we'll need to install a Gas tank skid plate, but what about the
> front? I'd hate to break something while on a trail and not be ready for
> it.
>
> What are the most common parts to get sacrificed on the 3.5 and lower
> trails?
>
> We have stock clearance and 30" tires. We do not plan to lift it or get
> bigger tires so spare parts (or underbody armor) are the answer(s) we're
> looking for.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael and Laurie Earls
> 2001 Silver TJ
> http://www.cerkit.com
>
>
>
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23971 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:10pm
Subject: Re: BLM MEETING IN CASA GRANDE
Gary,
Is this the Sand Tank (?) mountain range? I sent a letter to BLM way
before it became a monument begging that it be left as is. If you have a
DeLorme Map book of Arizona you will see that there are huge areas
surrounding it that are already classified as wilderness areas. This are
needs neither national monument status or wilderness area.
May 23 is a Wednesday. I hope I can make it down there.
Linda
> Gary MacLaren wrote:
>
> This is a first reminder about the BLM meeting in C.G. on May 23 at
> the C.G. Elks Club,located at 909 E Florence Bvd. This meeting will
> deal with the changes that will be made in regard to the new Sonoran
> National Monument[created illegally by Slick Willie]. The area
> affected is West of Casa Grande, and will encompess the area near
> Tabletop Mt. At other landuse meetings the pro-access people were
> encouraged to wear RED, it is a good way to i.d. yourself as not a
> 'greenie'.
> I hope to see a good number of you at this meeting, it is local, and
> we need a good turnout. Don't depend on someone else to do this for
> you.
> The meeting is at the Elk's lodge on Florence Bvd, at 7pm, don't
> forget to wear RED!!!!!!!!
>
> See you there.
>
> Gary Mac Laren
>
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23972 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:40pm
Subject: GPS Coords PLEASE!!!
Can someone give me or Larry F. the GPS for lower Ajax? Tom is still
having prob with his belt and is not sure if he will make it tomarrow. I
can follow the wash, but need to know how to get to the wash. If you can
post to the board so Larry F. can get I would appreciate it. Larry, what
did you mention earlier about specific coordinates?
=====
Mike Baney
2001 TJ
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23973 From: Daryl Faust <louddog71@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:54pm
Subject: Re: Free Stuff...R-12 A/C
Never heard of freeze 12, it may be something
different.
Even if using free zone voids all warranties, R-12
hasn't been used since 1994. Any applicable waranties
on a jeep (or any other car) using R-12 expired
already.
--- Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> I thought the R-12 replacement was called "Freeze
> 12". I've also heard
> that none of the A/C equipment manufacturers
> warranty their equipment
> if Freeze 12 is run in it. I'm not sure how true
> this is, though.
>
> -Roger
>
> Daryl Faust wrote:
>
> > FLAME FREE!
> >
> > Free zone is non-flamable non-toxic and completely
> > approved by the EPA. It contains zero propane or
> > butane. They use it for other uses also.
> >
> > I'm sure there's been some dangerous stuff out
> there
> > in the past, but my brother is pretty sharp on air
> > conditioning and he loves this stuff.
> >
> > Check out:
> > http://www.rmsgas.com/freezoneoverview.htm
> >
> > --- FLEXYXJ@a... wrote:
> > > Oh boy here we go...I was hoping I would NEVER
> see
> > > this here....please dont
> > > flame me for this but here it goes.... BLENDS
> they
> > > are called...there are
> > > many of them...I would not reccomend ANY of them
> due
> > > to the fact that almost
> > > all of them contain some sort of FLAMMABLE
> gas!!!!
> > > Most contain propane,
> > > heptane or butane in some amount.....can you see
> the
> > > image now when somehow
> > > ,someway there is either a leak or vehicle
> > > problem/accident and a spark with
> > > one of these "blends"??? Hmm can we say
> > > BOOOOOOOM!!!! I know I cannot
> > > fathom the sight of either of my Jeeps going
> BOOM
> > > just to save a few
> > > cents....NOW TECHNICALY YOU CAN CHARGE AN A/C
> SYSTEM
> > > WITH PROPANE AND IT WILL
> > > WORK....And it will blow cold also!!! (Did this
> in
> > > my MACS cert class) But
> > > very extrmely dangerous....Another thing you can
> do
> > > and We have had fairly
> > > good luck with it in vehicles with a large
> condenser
> > > is to flush out all of
> > > the R-12 mineral oil, add the recommended amount
> of
> > > ESTER oil and charge the
> > > system about 4-6oz LESS (than the R-12 amt) with
> > > 134A....You DONOT have to
> > > change O rings,go to barrier hose or any of that
> > > other stuff that was once
> > > thought....IT DOES WORK!!!! But R-12 is the
> best
> > > way to go....but I would
> > > rather not go to a funeral with an AZVJC decal
> on
> > > the casket because you
> > > saved a couple of bucks on a blend... ok???
> > >
> > >
> > > FLEXY
> > >
> >
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23974 From: <trmn8rjn98@a...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 9:58pm
Subject: Looking for a good rear axle for a ZJ with 3.73 gears.
I know that linda is looking to replace hers & intend to e-mail her
about her old one(if you read this what are you doing with it?). I do
not care drum or disk but do want a stock ZJ one I don't have the
money to buy a 8.8 or d44 & have all the brackets welded on. Mine
sounds real bad, seems to be from the center part not axle bearings &
don't want to waste any money on this old d35 if I can just swap it
out for cheap. So if some one is wanting to upgrade or already has I
am interested.
Thanks
John
23950 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 3:19pm
Subject: Ajax CANCELED
Since I don't know where the trail starts, and no one else wants to lead,
I am canceling the trip. Looks like I will do the FR42 trail.
=====
Mike Baney
2001 TJ
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23951 From: Joey K <joey@j...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 3:36pm
Subject: Fire extinguisher
Just got back from Auto Safety House. They supply lots of TRUCK parts including fire extinguishers. The rechargeable 2.5 lb with METAL bracket is on sale for 20 bucks. 2630 W. Buckeye. It is the NE corner of 27th ave. and Buckeye. I know there are some people with the Home Depot $10 failing plastic bracket that were inquiring about a better unit. Well they have it.
Not sure how long the sale is or if they are open on the weekend so here is there number 602-269-9721.
Joey K
93YJ w/extinguisher
www.desertjeep.com
ps sorry for the plug but I got a great deal on some steps for my Jeep.
23952 From: Tom Quinn <tom@q...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 11:50am
Subject: Fw: AZVJC Web Site
----- Original Message -----
From: "jerome lobel" <jerrylobel@j...>
To: <tom@q...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 3:59 PM
Subject: AZVJC Web Site
> Dear Tom:
>
> I am a new member of az_vjc, and do not know how to write a message to a
> message board or to chat with other members. As an example of of
> something I would like to communicate, I just pulled a very nice set of
> running boards off of my super 1991 Jeep Cherokee. I am sure someone
> (handicapped?) would love to install these running boards on their
> Cherokee. How do I get the word out? Thank you for your help.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jerry Lobel
> Phone 602-953-9371
> E-mail: jerrylobel@j...
23953 From: Larry Farquhar <lfar@h...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 3:45pm
Subject: RE: Ajax CANCELED
Looks like I'll be on the FR42 run now.
Can we get clarification on the meeting time and place for the FR42 run on
Saturday evening? Isn't 8:00pm late?
Larry F
'01 TJ - "Wyle E"
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Baney [mailto:jeepin_in_az@y...]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 3:19 PM
To: Jeep List
Subject: [az_vjc] Ajax CANCELED
Since I don't know where the trail starts, and no one else wants to lead,
I am canceling the trip. Looks like I will do the FR42 trail.
=====
Mike Baney
2001 TJ
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23954 From: <mred@m...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:03pm
Subject: TV Show to watch
I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
================================================== ===============
"VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
MAY 19, 20TH.
SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS, STOPPING
ENERGY PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING
THOUSANDS OUT OF WORK.
IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT FOX ALSO LOOKS AT
EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE GROUSE TO
JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN AMERICAN
WAY OF LIFE..
OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
- AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE
AMERICANS LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
- THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
- ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
- GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND
WILDLIFE SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL
ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA.
- ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE
DAMS, NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL
MINING
================================================== ==============
23955 From: <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:19pm
Subject: From Chris - Rat Patrol
Chris has sent you a free greeting card!
You may pick it up at the following address:
http://cards.webshots.com/65972201387
Click on the link above to view your postcard. You can also view
your card by visiting http://cards.webshots.com/pickup.html and
entering your postcard number.
Your personal postcard number is: 65972201387
Thanks!
ps. Chris also suggests you try out the Webshots Desktop
software to display thousands of incredible photos on your desktop
wallpaper and screen saver. It's fun, easy, and FREE. You
can download it for FREE from:
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23956 From: Joey K <joey@j...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:34pm
Subject: RE: From Chris - Rat Patrol
That's an idea. Then you won't have to carry a spare on board!!! ;-)
Joey K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: my1stjeep@e... [mailto:my1stjeep@e...]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 4:20 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] From Chris - Rat Patrol
>
>
> Chris has sent you a free greeting card! You may pick it up at
> the following address: http://cards.webshots.com/65972201387
> Click on the link above to view your postcard. You can also view
> your card by visiting http://cards.webshots.com/pickup.html and
> entering your postcard number. Your personal postcard number
> is: 65972201387 Thanks! ps. Chris also suggests you try out
> the Webshots Desktop software to display thousands of incredible
> photos on your desktop wallpaper and screen saver. It's fun,
> easy, and FREE. You can download it for FREE from:
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23957 From: Mr Ed <mred@m...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:39pm
Subject: Interesting reading (It's Long")
Eco-Terror' Takes Its Toll
This weekend, in
Vanishing Freedom II:
Who Owns America?
Fox News takes a look at how some forms of environmentalism chip away at
individuals' personal and property rights.
Hosted by William LaJeunesse, the special airs
Saturday May 19 at 10 p.m. ET/7 p.m. PT and
Sunday May 20 at 8 p.m. ET/5 p.m. PT. To find Fox
News Channel on your local cable system, click here.
In this, one of several stories from the special, Fox News looks at how
environmental extremists are taking their wars to ever-more-extreme lengths.
PORTLAND, Ore. - They think of themselves as the army of Mother Earth,
the only soldiers defending the natural world in a guerilla war against
corporations and uncaring governments. They are willing to go to extreme
lengths for their mission.
Others call them eco-terrorists."It's all about anarchy, revolution
and terrorism," said private investigator Barry Clausen, an author who has made
a career out of infiltrating what he calls "eco-terror" groups.
Using increasingly violent tactics, these extremist groups are waging war
against what they see as the enemy - lumber companies, research labs,
even car dealerships.
"We can no longer allow the rich to parade around in their armored
existence," the Earth Liberation Front said in a statement following an attack
on a Portland, Ore., car dealership selling sport-utility vehicles.
In the last few years, the ELF, the most well-known group in the radical fringe,
has taken credit for attacks on Michigan State University's Agriculture Hall, a
ranger station, a Colorado ski lodge and two lumber companies.
The ELF isn't alone. From the Strawberry Liberation Front to the Anarchist
Golfing Association, radical-environmentalist wrecking crews are vandalizing
spots across the country.
Last year, a group trampled the Cold Springs, N.Y., cornfield where Nobel
Prize-winning genetics research has been done. Turns out that the corn they
trampled was entirely natural, not the genetically engineered variety that the
group was apparently protesting. "We've seen it go from demonstrations
and protests - which are the American way - and lobbying Congress"
to "a large-scale quantity of arsons throughout the country," FBI Special
Agent David Szady said.
The washboard and protest sign? They're giving way to the Molotov ****tail
and fertilizer bomb.
"When you look at where they buy their literature, it doesn't just include arson.
It includes how to manufacture some pretty serious bombs," Clausen said.
And with every spurt of violence, mainstream environmental groups cringe,
worrying that a handful of extremists are giving a bad name to a movement
that's been gaining strength with its concern over important issues.
But signs don't get results. Bombs do, the ELF says.
"They feel that mainstream tactics used throughout history to further the
environmental movement aren't working, and that it's time to take it a bit
further," said ELF spokesman Leslie James Pickering.
The definition of the traditional radical Green's target is changing. On Long
Island, ELF activists burned down 11 homes in a housing development as a
statement against urban sprawl.
"Those were not homes, they are houses, which are part of a development
that are threatening the last wild areas in Long Island,
" Pickering said."Property is not human, it is not violent to destroy property.
"Anyone, potentially, who is making a
profit off the destruction of the natural environment could be a target," he
said. "One of the goals is to put the corporation or target out of business
immediately."
The ELF routinely sabotages logging equipment, driving metal spikes into
trees that can later injure timber cutters. In California in one case, a man
nearly died, Clausen said.
"The saw blade hit the spikes, broke the blade," he said. "It wrapped around
an employee's body, it cut his jugular vein, tore out twelve teeth and broke
jaw. But he did live."
It's difficult in many cases to crack down on groups like the ELF because they
often don't have traditional organizations. The spokesman often doesn't know
the identity of other group members, while a small core group puts out a
free-form call for "direct action" that means any disgruntled teenager with an
environmental bent could decide he is working on behalf of ELF or another
group.
"They're an underground organization
that consists of numerous cells throughout the United States," Szady said.
Currently, the FBI is on guard in case the ELF escalates to letter bombs
targeting people it deems enemies to the Earth.
"We don't care what you believe - just don't commit criminal acts to further
those acts," Szady said. "As we often say, if you believe the world is flat, don't
just go around blowing it up to make it flat."
Attachment: (image/jpeg) Clear Day Bkgrd.JPG [not stored]
23958 From: blake shepherd <blake@b...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:52pm
Subject: RE: Interesting reading (It's Long")
This is disturbing. Who are they to try and play GOD? The part about them putting spikes in timber really pisses me off.
I will be sure to tape this television episode.
Thanks ED
Blake
80CJ5
01 TJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Mr Ed [mailto:mred@mreds.com]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 4:39 PM
Cc: AZVJ Club members; 2Dog Bob; Bad-Kitty; Chatfield, Mike; Eric Takizawa; Glenn McConnell; Jay Kopycinski; Pete&Sue Moore-Cust; Motoman; AZRANGERDAVE@aol.com; Chris (alloffroad.com); Danial/Todd (loRangers); Neal Han****; Jon L. (AZVJC); Bronco Bill roll; Len Sullivan; Lucky Greg Stapley; Greg 'Empire Cleaners'; Sean Ford (Pinzqauer); Ward Bunyan SantaRos; Joe in Da White; Axlewrap Andy; Devon (AZVJC_CJ6); Lee Smith(AZVJC); Bill Aylesworth(AZVJC); James Towle(girljeep); Kevin( greenCJ-5); Daron Hargadine-AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Interesting reading (It's Long")
Eco-Terror' Takes Its Toll
This weekend, in
Vanishing Freedom II:
Who Owns America?
Fox News takes a look at how some forms of environmentalism chip away at
individuals' personal and property rights.
Hosted by William LaJeunesse, the special airs
Saturday May 19 at 10 p.m. ET/7 p.m. PT and
Sunday May 20 at 8 p.m. ET/5 p.m. PT. To find Fox
News Channel on your local cable system, click here.
In this, one of several stories from the special, Fox News looks at how
environmental extremists are taking their wars to ever-more-extreme lengths.
PORTLAND, Ore. - They think of themselves as the army of Mother Earth,
the only soldiers defending the natural world in a guerilla war against
corporations and uncaring governments. They are willing to go to extreme
lengths for their mission.
Others call them eco-terrorists."It's all about anarchy, revolution
and terrorism," said private investigator Barry Clausen, an author who has made
a career out of infiltrating what he calls "eco-terror" groups.
Using increasingly violent tactics, these extremist groups are waging war
against what they see as the enemy - lumber companies, research labs,
even car dealerships.
"We can no longer allow the rich to parade around in their armored
existence," the Earth Liberation Front said in a statement following an attack
on a Portland, Ore., car dealership selling sport-utility vehicles.
In the last few years, the ELF, the most well-known group in the radical fringe,
has taken credit for attacks on Michigan State University's Agriculture Hall, a
ranger station, a Colorado ski lodge and two lumber companies.
The ELF isn't alone. From the Strawberry Liberation Front to the Anarchist
Golfing Association, radical-environmentalist wrecking crews are vandalizing
spots across the country.
Last year, a group trampled the Cold Springs, N.Y., cornfield where Nobel
Prize-winning genetics research has been done. Turns out that the corn they
trampled was entirely natural, not the genetically engineered variety that the
group was apparently protesting. "We've seen it go from demonstrations
and protests - which are the American way - and lobbying Congress"
to "a large-scale quantity of arsons throughout the country," FBI Special
Agent David Szady said.
The washboard and protest sign? They're giving way to the Molotov ****tail
and fertilizer bomb.
"When you look at where they buy their literature, it doesn't just include arson.
It includes how to manufacture some pretty serious bombs," Clausen said.
And with every spurt of violence, mainstream environmental groups cringe,
worrying that a handful of extremists are giving a bad name to a movement
that's been gaining strength with its concern over important issues.
But signs don't get results. Bombs do, the ELF says.
"They feel that mainstream tactics used throughout history to further the
environmental movement aren't working, and that it's time to take it a bit
further," said ELF spokesman Leslie James Pickering.
The definition of the traditional radical Green's target is changing. On Long
Island, ELF activists burned down 11 homes in a housing development as a
statement against urban sprawl.
"Those were not homes, they are houses, which are part of a development
that are threatening the last wild areas in Long Island,
" Pickering said."Property is not human, it is not violent to destroy property.
"Anyone, potentially, who is making a
profit off the destruction of the natural environment could be a target," he
said. "One of the goals is to put the corporation or target out of business
immediately."
The ELF routinely sabotages logging equipment, driving metal spikes into
trees that can later injure timber cutters. In California in one case, a man
nearly died, Clausen said.
"The saw blade hit the spikes, broke the blade," he said. "It wrapped around
an employee's body, it cut his jugular vein, tore out twelve teeth and broke
jaw. But he did live."
It's difficult in many cases to crack down on groups like the ELF because they
often don't have traditional organizations. The spokesman often doesn't know
the identity of other group members, while a small core group puts out a
free-form call for "direct action" that means any disgruntled teenager with an
environmental bent could decide he is working on behalf of ELF or another
group.
"They're an underground organization
that consists of numerous cells throughout the United States," Szady said.
Currently, the FBI is on guard in case the ELF escalates to letter bombs
targeting people it deems enemies to the Earth.
"We don't care what you believe - just don't commit criminal acts to further
those acts," Szady said. "As we often say, if you believe the world is flat, don't
just go around blowing it up to make it flat."
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
23959 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:56pm
Subject: AJAX back on!
Ok,
Joey K, Tom J., Larry F, James T., and myself are back on for Ajax
Saturday night! We will meet at Texaco in FJ at 7:00. If anyone else
wants to go, give me a call.
480-628-0204
=====
Mike Baney
2001 TJ
__________________________________________________
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23960 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:56pm
Subject: AJAX back on!
Ok,
Joey K, Tom J., Larry F, James T., and myself are back on for Ajax
Saturday night! We will meet at Texaco in FJ at 7:00. If anyone else
wants to go, give me a call.
480-628-0204
=====
Mike Baney
2001 TJ
__________________________________________________
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23961 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:57pm
Subject: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
DEFINATELY get a steering box skidplate. The box on the TJ is very
unprotected.
Chris K
> From: "Michael Earls" <michael@c...>
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:07:07 -0700
> To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club List \(E-mail\)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [az_vjc] Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
>
> Greetings,
>
> We're driving a 2001 stock TJ and we're looking to ensure that we have
> things covered in the event of a surprise attack from a rock. We will be
> using our Jeep to explore the state, not so much to play on the "playground"
> (though we do this from time to time to "practice").
>
> I know we'll need to install a Gas tank skid plate, but what about the
> front? I'd hate to break something while on a trail and not be ready for
> it.
>
> What are the most common parts to get sacrificed on the 3.5 and lower
> trails?
>
> We have stock clearance and 30" tires. We do not plan to lift it or get
> bigger tires so spare parts (or underbody armor) are the answer(s) we're
> looking for.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael and Laurie Earls
> 2001 Silver TJ
> http://www.cerkit.com
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
23962 From: <slrnx@c...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 4:58pm
Subject: looking to trade yj springs
I have a set of some sweet stock springs for a yj 6 cylinder, they
are in great condition, and the thing that makes thme cool is they
have a full length add-a-leaf from Rubicon Express on each one to
prevent axle wrap. I am getting ladder bars, and don't need to
prevent axle wrap anymore.
The deal: I will trade my springs for your springs pending they are
a 2" lift, and they are not made by pro comp or dick cepek, or a
manufacturer similar with very poor quality control.
send me an email
23963 From: Jesus Chio - AllOffRoad <jchio@a...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 7:02am
Subject: Re: AJAX back on!
Dont forget the camera and good luck you guys!! Sounds like fun
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Baney" <jeepin_in_az@y...>
To: "Jeep List" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 4:56 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] AJAX back on!
> Ok,
> Joey K, Tom J., Larry F, James T., and myself are back on for Ajax
> Saturday night! We will meet at Texaco in FJ at 7:00. If anyone else
> wants to go, give me a call.
>
> 480-628-0204
>
>
>
> =====
> Mike Baney
> 2001 TJ
>
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23964 From: <97tj@t...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 5:09pm
Subject: Safford Area runs???
I will be in the Safford area this coming week and weekend. If anyone
is going to go out and do some trails I would love to tag along.
Lower Eagle Creek, Ariviapa, ect. I will check for any messages when
I get down south. Keith, if you read this and come up with a trail,
post it here please. Thank you,
Thane
97TJ
23965 From: TRobertsRN <TRobertsRN@e...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 5:36pm
Subject: Re: Free Stuff...R-12 A/C
I checked out the web site. Click on RB-276 and then comparison. There is
a comparison chart there. Looks like they are both replacements for R-12
with some differences. One of which is that Freeze 12 contains flammable
butane. I had almost gone with the Freeze 12 myself. Didn't know it
contained butane. Has anyone used this RB-276 stuff in a late 70's FSJ with
a York compressor?
Tom
78 Cherokee WT
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
To: Daryl Faust <louddog71@y...>
Cc: <FLEXYXJ@a...>; AZ jeep club <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Free Stuff...R-12 A/C
I thought the R-12 replacement was called "Freeze 12". I've also heard
that none of the A/C equipment manufacturers warranty their equipment
if Freeze 12 is run in it. I'm not sure how true this is, though.
-Roger
Daryl Faust wrote:
> FLAME FREE!
>
> Free zone is non-flamable non-toxic and completely
> approved by the EPA. It contains zero propane or
> butane. They use it for other uses also.
>
> I'm sure there's been some dangerous stuff out there
> in the past, but my brother is pretty sharp on air
> conditioning and he loves this stuff.
>
> Check out:
> http://www.rmsgas.com/freezoneoverview.htm
>
> --- FLEXYXJ@a... wrote:
> > Oh boy here we go...I was hoping I would NEVER see
> > this here....please dont
> > flame me for this but here it goes.... BLENDS they
> > are called...there are
> > many of them...I would not reccomend ANY of them due
> > to the fact that almost
> > all of them contain some sort of FLAMMABLE gas!!!!
> > Most contain propane,
> > heptane or butane in some amount.....can you see the
> > image now when somehow
> > ,someway there is either a leak or vehicle
> > problem/accident and a spark with
> > one of these "blends"??? Hmm can we say
> > BOOOOOOOM!!!! I know I cannot
> > fathom the sight of either of my Jeeps going BOOM
> > just to save a few
> > cents....NOW TECHNICALY YOU CAN CHARGE AN A/C SYSTEM
> > WITH PROPANE AND IT WILL
> > WORK....And it will blow cold also!!! (Did this in
> > my MACS cert class) But
> > very extrmely dangerous....Another thing you can do
> > and We have had fairly
> > good luck with it in vehicles with a large condenser
> > is to flush out all of
> > the R-12 mineral oil, add the recommended amount of
> > ESTER oil and charge the
> > system about 4-6oz LESS (than the R-12 amt) with
> > 134A....You DONOT have to
> > change O rings,go to barrier hose or any of that
> > other stuff that was once
> > thought....IT DOES WORK!!!! But R-12 is the best
> > way to go....but I would
> > rather not go to a funeral with an AZVJC decal on
> > the casket because you
> > saved a couple of bucks on a blend... ok???
> >
> >
> > FLEXY
> >
>
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23966 From: Gary MacLaren <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 6:02pm
Subject: BLM MEETING IN CASA GRANDE
This is a first reminder about the BLM meeting in C.G. on May 23 at the C.G. Elks Club,located at 909 E Florence Bvd. This meeting will deal with the changes that will be made in regard to the new Sonoran National Monument[created illegally by Slick Willie]. The area affected is West of Casa Grande, and will encompess the area near Tabletop Mt. At other landuse meetings the pro-access people were encouraged to wear RED, it is a good way to i.d. yourself as not a 'greenie'.
I hope to see a good number of you at this meeting, it is local, and we need a good turnout. Don't depend on someone else to do this for you.
The meeting is at the Elk's lodge on Florence Bvd, at 7pm, don't forget to wear RED!!!!!!!!
See you there.
Gary Mac Laren
23967 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 2:51pm
Subject: Re: 5-19 FR42 Trail
I plan on being there to try out my new shoes :)
See ya all there
Sharky
23968 From: Steve Farris <azjeeper@n...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 7:18pm
Subject: FR-42 meeting place??
Which Circle K is this. If I'm not mistaken, when I go out there I
pass more than one Circle K. Sorry if you've already read this once
but if I'm going to go I'd like to have a definite place to meet.
This all really depends on how you get out there as to the second
Circle K.
Steve
23969 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 7:36pm
Subject: RE: A must to watch FOX TV
Well, I just checked my digital feed and I get Fox Family, Fox, and Fox
Sports....but no Fox News.
If anyone on the west side tapes this, please let me know. I gladly swap a
tape with you for a copy.
Stu
-----Original Message-----
From: mike.chatfield@p... [mailto:mike.chatfield@p...]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:13 AM
To: Stu Olson
Subject: Re: A must to watch FOX TV
Can you tape both of them, please, pretty please? :)
Fox News Channel is not offered in my area, and won't be until
Digital Cable is ready.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Can anyone tell me if this is a two part series....or is it the
same program
> being offered on two nights. If it is a two parter....looks like
the VCR
> will be rolling for the first half.
>
> Thanks.......Stu
23970 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:00pm
Subject: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
The best 'spare part' you can bring along is another 4x4. Sorry if it
has already been mentioned. There's nothing worse than getting stuck of
breaking down when you're 20 miles from nowhere (even Nowhere, Az) and
have to walk to get help.
Linda
93 ZJ -- excessively modified
Michael Earls wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> We're driving a 2001 stock TJ and we're looking to ensure that we have
> things covered in the event of a surprise attack from a rock. We will be
> using our Jeep to explore the state, not so much to play on the "playground"
> (though we do this from time to time to "practice").
>
> I know we'll need to install a Gas tank skid plate, but what about the
> front? I'd hate to break something while on a trail and not be ready for
> it.
>
> What are the most common parts to get sacrificed on the 3.5 and lower
> trails?
>
> We have stock clearance and 30" tires. We do not plan to lift it or get
> bigger tires so spare parts (or underbody armor) are the answer(s) we're
> looking for.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael and Laurie Earls
> 2001 Silver TJ
> http://www.cerkit.com
>
>
>
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23971 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:10pm
Subject: Re: BLM MEETING IN CASA GRANDE
Gary,
Is this the Sand Tank (?) mountain range? I sent a letter to BLM way
before it became a monument begging that it be left as is. If you have a
DeLorme Map book of Arizona you will see that there are huge areas
surrounding it that are already classified as wilderness areas. This are
needs neither national monument status or wilderness area.
May 23 is a Wednesday. I hope I can make it down there.
Linda
> Gary MacLaren wrote:
>
> This is a first reminder about the BLM meeting in C.G. on May 23 at
> the C.G. Elks Club,located at 909 E Florence Bvd. This meeting will
> deal with the changes that will be made in regard to the new Sonoran
> National Monument[created illegally by Slick Willie]. The area
> affected is West of Casa Grande, and will encompess the area near
> Tabletop Mt. At other landuse meetings the pro-access people were
> encouraged to wear RED, it is a good way to i.d. yourself as not a
> 'greenie'.
> I hope to see a good number of you at this meeting, it is local, and
> we need a good turnout. Don't depend on someone else to do this for
> you.
> The meeting is at the Elk's lodge on Florence Bvd, at 7pm, don't
> forget to wear RED!!!!!!!!
>
> See you there.
>
> Gary Mac Laren
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
23972 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:40pm
Subject: GPS Coords PLEASE!!!
Can someone give me or Larry F. the GPS for lower Ajax? Tom is still
having prob with his belt and is not sure if he will make it tomarrow. I
can follow the wash, but need to know how to get to the wash. If you can
post to the board so Larry F. can get I would appreciate it. Larry, what
did you mention earlier about specific coordinates?
=====
Mike Baney
2001 TJ
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23973 From: Daryl Faust <louddog71@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:54pm
Subject: Re: Free Stuff...R-12 A/C
Never heard of freeze 12, it may be something
different.
Even if using free zone voids all warranties, R-12
hasn't been used since 1994. Any applicable waranties
on a jeep (or any other car) using R-12 expired
already.
--- Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> I thought the R-12 replacement was called "Freeze
> 12". I've also heard
> that none of the A/C equipment manufacturers
> warranty their equipment
> if Freeze 12 is run in it. I'm not sure how true
> this is, though.
>
> -Roger
>
> Daryl Faust wrote:
>
> > FLAME FREE!
> >
> > Free zone is non-flamable non-toxic and completely
> > approved by the EPA. It contains zero propane or
> > butane. They use it for other uses also.
> >
> > I'm sure there's been some dangerous stuff out
> there
> > in the past, but my brother is pretty sharp on air
> > conditioning and he loves this stuff.
> >
> > Check out:
> > http://www.rmsgas.com/freezoneoverview.htm
> >
> > --- FLEXYXJ@a... wrote:
> > > Oh boy here we go...I was hoping I would NEVER
> see
> > > this here....please dont
> > > flame me for this but here it goes.... BLENDS
> they
> > > are called...there are
> > > many of them...I would not reccomend ANY of them
> due
> > > to the fact that almost
> > > all of them contain some sort of FLAMMABLE
> gas!!!!
> > > Most contain propane,
> > > heptane or butane in some amount.....can you see
> the
> > > image now when somehow
> > > ,someway there is either a leak or vehicle
> > > problem/accident and a spark with
> > > one of these "blends"??? Hmm can we say
> > > BOOOOOOOM!!!! I know I cannot
> > > fathom the sight of either of my Jeeps going
> BOOM
> > > just to save a few
> > > cents....NOW TECHNICALY YOU CAN CHARGE AN A/C
> SYSTEM
> > > WITH PROPANE AND IT WILL
> > > WORK....And it will blow cold also!!! (Did this
> in
> > > my MACS cert class) But
> > > very extrmely dangerous....Another thing you can
> do
> > > and We have had fairly
> > > good luck with it in vehicles with a large
> condenser
> > > is to flush out all of
> > > the R-12 mineral oil, add the recommended amount
> of
> > > ESTER oil and charge the
> > > system about 4-6oz LESS (than the R-12 amt) with
> > > 134A....You DONOT have to
> > > change O rings,go to barrier hose or any of that
> > > other stuff that was once
> > > thought....IT DOES WORK!!!! But R-12 is the
> best
> > > way to go....but I would
> > > rather not go to a funeral with an AZVJC decal
> on
> > > the casket because you
> > > saved a couple of bucks on a blend... ok???
> > >
> > >
> > > FLEXY
> > >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great
> prices
> > http://auctions.yahoo.com/
> >
> >
> >
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
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23974 From: <trmn8rjn98@a...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 9:58pm
Subject: Looking for a good rear axle for a ZJ with 3.73 gears.
I know that linda is looking to replace hers & intend to e-mail her
about her old one(if you read this what are you doing with it?). I do
not care drum or disk but do want a stock ZJ one I don't have the
money to buy a 8.8 or d44 & have all the brackets welded on. Mine
sounds real bad, seems to be from the center part not axle bearings &
don't want to waste any money on this old d35 if I can just swap it
out for cheap. So if some one is wanting to upgrade or already has I
am interested.
Thanks
John