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23900 From: Daryl Faust <louddog71@y...>
Date: Thu May 17, 2001 11:23pm
Subject: 4.0 exhaust manifold interesting facts
I was going over my employment history and I was
remembering my first job out of college in the
engineering department at Aluminum Casting &
Engineering Company in Milwaukee Wisconsin. ACE/CO
for short. I wasn't into jeeps then, so it never
really crossed my mind, but ACE/CO makes the exhaust
manifold for all the 4.0 engines. At that time (6
years ago) they were casted in semi-perm mold tilt
cast machines. We used to leak test every one by
sealing them up and filling them with air (i think it
was just 5psi) then dunking them about a foot under
water and watch for bubbles for 10 seconds. The good
ones were shipped out and the leakers went to get
impregnated (a process where basically the voids get
filled with a composite under high pressure). The
impregnated ones were leak tested again. If they
passed they were shipped out, if they failed,
sometimes they were re-melted, sometimes impregnated
again...
I remember thinking at that time "i wouldn't want one
in my car that was impregnated once, yet alone twice."
I worked there 4 months and ran away.
Note: In aluminum castings, leaks are caused by
porosity or shrink (basically the same thing) which is
the result of pouring the aluminum too cold (or cold
spots on the die or poor casting design...).
Basically the leaks mean the casting is not
structurally sound. Impregnating does not add
strength, it just seals.
Wasn't there a rash of postings about cracked exhaust manifolds...
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23901 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 0:51am
Subject: Daddy Longlegs - Test Drive!!
Woohoo! After working all day Saturday & Sunday, and then on the evenings on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday I finally finished up the main installation of the RE longarm kit and went on a 30 mile test drive. The TJ hasn't handled or ridden this good since it was stock. Even with 6" coils and 35's the ride was superb. Of all the vehicles I've ever driven on rutted gravel roads the TJ was the smoothest and most stable even at 50 mph.
Compared to my old RE 4.5" kit I noted quite a few differences in how it handled. I could not get it to lift the left front tire anymore. I did not notice any torque roll of the body under acceleration. On takeoff the Jeep just drives straight and level, even with the Detroit in the rear. I'll keep the group up to date if I notice anything negative.
I still need to cutoff the rear axle shock mounts and weld on the new ones. Then I can determine what length shocks I'll need.
I also found that the exhaust noise is unbearable with nothing past the catalytic converter. I'll get that taken care of soon.
The alignment seems ok but I'll have it put on a rack anyway. FLEXXY are you reading this?
The brakes pull to the left. I need to go back out and bleed the brakes again.
I called RE to order one of the newer rear trackbar relocation brackets. This one is designed to clock the trackbar forward when you run a CV driveshaft.
The new RE Extreme front trackbar and front relocation bracket eliminated the noisy heim joint and seemed to eliminate any bumpsteer that I used to feel with my 1 ton steering setup.
I already had lifted motor mounts installed so I had no problems with the new low profile crossmember. It raised the tcase up an inch or two.
I had alot of trouble with my lower axle brackets. OR Fab had boxed them in 1/4" plate and it took some fab work to get the new arms to fit correctly. The dimensions were screwed up and after about an hour of cutting, welding, and grinding per bracket the new lowers fit nicely. Cutting off the brackets on the frame turned out to be a b*tch. I had OR Fab gusset them with 1/4" plate which made for alot of time with a 4.5" angle grinder and sawzall. I think I spent a good 8 hours cutting off and grinding down the welds on those 4 brackets.
Anyway I'll try to post some pics this weekend. I'll be finishing up the last details that I can on Saturday morning.
Later,
Scott
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23902 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 0:55am
Subject: Re: Gas Tank Skid Plate info.
I'll sell you my Tomken cheap and use the money towards a Kilby replacement. Seriously though. Don't even look any further than the Kilby. One benefit is that it raises the tank an inch for more clearance. I got my Tomken long before Brad starting building his. I'll eventually upgrade.
Scott
"Hargadine, Daron" wrote:
Thanks to everyone who sent me info. on the skid plates. My friend will probably go with the Kilby or Tomken. Thanks,
Daron
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23903 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 7:20am
Subject: A must to watch FOX TV
I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
================================================== ===============
"VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
MAY 19, 20TH.
SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS, STOPPING ENERGY
PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING THOUSANDS OUT OF
WORK.
IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT
FOX ALSO LOOKS AT EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE
GROUSE TO JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN
AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE..
OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
- AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE AMERICANS
LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
- THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
- ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
- GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE
SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL ENVIRONMENTAL
AGENDA.
- ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE DAMS,
NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL MINING
Regards
Randy Siade
Engineering Manager
Unisys Unigen Operations
6161 W. Erie Street
Chandler, AZ 85226
Phone 480 783-5911
Fax 480 783-5960
Cell 602-329-0699
randy.siade@u...
23904 From: David W. Smith <dwsmith69@h...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 7:56am
Subject: Re: Fuel Leak???
I don't know about the TJ's but my yj leaked where the fuel assending unit
went into the tank. Had to replace the gasket.
>From: "Rick Hall" <ricknhall@h...>
>To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Fuel Leak???
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 17:34:05 -0700
>
>I know it's leaking but I can't find it. I have a 98TJ with a Tomken skid.
> When I fillup with gas (not overfill, when the pump shuts off I'm done) I
>end up with a little gas in my skid. I checked all of the fittings, the
>top of the tank no results. I have checked the sides and don't see any
>indication that gas has been running down the tank or from the top. I
>would think i damaged the tank itself but it only happens when I fillup.
>It's got to be the overflow but I can't find any signs that there is a leak
>there either. After the fuel evaporates I'm fine until the next fillup.
>Anybody have a guess?????
>
>Rick
>ricknhall@h...
>
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23905 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:20am
Subject: Re: 4.0 exhaust manifold interesting facts
Daryl,
There have been a lot of cracked manifolds reported. If you go to the
RAM-WJ newsgroup there is always something about them. This would
explain part of it. I'm thinking that since this is not a "safety
issue" that is why there hasn't been a recall of some sort.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., Daryl Faust <louddog71@y...> wrote:
> I was going over my employment history and I was
> remembering my first job out of college in the
> engineering department at Aluminum Casting &
> Engineering Company in Milwaukee Wisconsin. ACE/CO
> for short. I wasn't into jeeps then, so it never
> really crossed my mind, but ACE/CO makes the exhaust
> manifold for all the 4.0 engines. At that time (6
> years ago) they were casted in semi-perm mold tilt
> cast machines. We used to leak test every one by
> sealing them up and filling them with air (i think it
> was just 5psi) then dunking them about a foot under
> water and watch for bubbles for 10 seconds. The good
> ones were shipped out and the leakers went to get
> impregnated (a process where basically the voids get
> filled with a composite under high pressure). The
> impregnated ones were leak tested again. If they
> passed they were shipped out, if they failed,
> sometimes they were re-melted, sometimes impregnated
> again...
> I remember thinking at that time "i wouldn't want one
> in my car that was impregnated once, yet alone twice."
> I worked there 4 months and ran away.
>
> Note: In aluminum castings, leaks are caused by
> porosity or shrink (basically the same thing) which is
> the result of pouring the aluminum too cold (or cold
> spots on the die or poor casting design...).
> Basically the leaks mean the casting is not
> structurally sound. Impregnating does not add
> strength, it just seals.
>
> Wasn't there a rash of postings about cracked exhaust manifolds...
>
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23906 From: <jeremy_jdawg@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:24am
Subject: Re: lift party
The lift Party will be his Saturday at 9:00
At Chris Krieg's place, The directions are printed below
Let me know what kind of food and drinks you guys like
THX
Jeremy
4 inch superlift going on a 98 tj
--- In az_vjc@y..., Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...> wrote:
> 9:00am (not an early riser). My garage in Chandler.
>
> Directions:
> Cooper Rd (aka Stapely Rd at US60) south past Chandler Blvd
> 2nd street on the left past Chandler Blvd is Kempton
> Turn left
> 2nd street on the left is Marie Dr.
> Turn Left
> 2nd house on the right is my house
> 443 S. Marie Dr.
> My garage will be open and my Blue TJ will be parked outside.
>
> Remember Jeremy. The owner of the vehicle being lifted provides
beverages
> (Diet Coke for me please) and lunch for the work gang.
>
> If someone has an electric or air impact wrench it will make the
work
> easier. I have an air compressor, but my air impact wrench sucks.
>
> Who else is coming?
>
> Chris K
>
>
> > From: jeremy_jdawg@y...
> > Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 01:11:28 -0000
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] lift party
> >
> > For any of you interested, Hopefully We will be puting on the lift
> > this saturday the 28th, As for the time and specific directions, i
> > don't have those yet. All I know is that we may be doing it at
Chris
> > K's place. I'm just waiting to here back from him. he lives in
> > Chandelr On Cooper and Pecos. So if any of you would like to come
> > out , I would appreciate the help putting the 4" superlift on my
TJ.
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
23907 From: Rabenius John-AJR300 <AJR300@m...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:28am
Subject: RE: AzVJC 3rd Anniversary (Aug 2001) Trail Run?
SYCAMORE CREEK AREA IS VERY BIG. We could split up into groups and go off in different trails. There are the hills by the wash for some to play on, and there are harder trails (3.5+) for those of us who want something more challenging.
Just my .02 worth.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:45 AM
To: Chatfield, Mike; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] AzVJC 3rd Anniversary (Aug 2001) Trail Run?
Well....it can always be a night run!
Stu
-----Original Message-----
From: Chatfield, Mike [mailto:mike.chatfield@p...]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:25 AM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [az_vjc] AzVJC 3rd Anniversary (Aug 2001) Trail Run?
Hello All,
If I read the archives correctly, August 16th will mark the 3rd Anniversary
of the first AzVJC trail run. I think we need to have a trail run to
celebrate. Any suggestions as to the trail? The trail should be doable for
"stock" Jeeps so that all may participate. I know the first run was Crown
King, or we can go with FR-42, or the Coves; it'll still be a bit on the hot
side, so something in the mountains is probably better. Suggestions for the
date? August 18th is the first Saturday after the 16th, is this suitable?
Something like this will likely draw quite a crowd, so we'll want to break
down into "sub-groups" no matter which trail we choose. Probably 10-15 Jeeps
per group. So we'll need group leaders, any volunteers?
Mike Chatfield
Mike@A... <mailto:Mike@A...>
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23908 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:35am
Subject: RE: A must to watch FOX TV
Can anyone tell me if this is a two part series....or is it the same program
being offered on two nights. If it is a two parter....looks like the VCR
will be rolling for the first half.
Thanks.......Stu
-----Original Message-----
From: Siade, Randy [mailto:randy.siade@u...]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:20 AM
To: 'azvjc'
Subject: [az_vjc] A must to watch FOX TV
I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
================================================== ===============
"VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
MAY 19, 20TH.
SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS, STOPPING ENERGY
PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING THOUSANDS OUT OF
WORK.
IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT
FOX ALSO LOOKS AT EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE
GROUSE TO JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN
AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE..
OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
- AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE AMERICANS
LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
- THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
- ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
- GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE
SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL ENVIRONMENTAL
AGENDA.
- ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE DAMS,
NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL MINING
Regards
Randy Siade
Engineering Manager
Unisys Unigen Operations
6161 W. Erie Street
Chandler, AZ 85226
Phone 480 783-5911
Fax 480 783-5960
Cell 602-329-0699
randy.siade@u...
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23909 From: Joey K <joey@j...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:44am
Subject: Temp Sensor/Gauge problems
Here is a brain teaser.
Recently on the freeway I looked at the temp gauge and it was reading 100 deg. My 4 cyl. usually runs at 210 deg. I have recently replaced the temp sensor and it has been working great.
When I get in the Jeep when it is cold the gauge starts to indicate the rising temperature all the way up to 210 deg. When it gets to 210 it hangs there for a bit then it steadily slowly falls back to 100 deg. The 100 mark is up from where it sits when the Jeep is off. I am puzzled. I replaced the new sensor for the old one, which was good, with the same results. I have also check all wiring and connections, including to the computer connector, sensor and gauge.
Also of note. There is no discernable performance that I have noticed.
Any help is appreciated.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
23910 From: Michael Earls <michael@c...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 9:07am
Subject: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
Greetings,
We're driving a 2001 stock TJ and we're looking to ensure that we have
things covered in the event of a surprise attack from a rock. We will be
using our Jeep to explore the state, not so much to play on the "playground"
(though we do this from time to time to "practice").
I know we'll need to install a Gas tank skid plate, but what about the
front? I'd hate to break something while on a trail and not be ready for
it.
What are the most common parts to get sacrificed on the 3.5 and lower
trails?
We have stock clearance and 30" tires. We do not plan to lift it or get
bigger tires so spare parts (or underbody armor) are the answer(s) we're
looking for.
Thanks,
Michael and Laurie Earls
2001 Silver TJ
http://www.cerkit.com
23911 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 9:25am
Subject: RE: A must to watch FOX TV
I think it is a two part series.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 8:36 AM
To: Siade, Randy; 'azvjc'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] A must to watch FOX TV
Can anyone tell me if this is a two part series....or is it the same program
being offered on two nights. If it is a two parter....looks like the VCR
will be rolling for the first half.
Thanks.......Stu
-----Original Message-----
From: Siade, Randy [mailto:randy.siade@u...]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:20 AM
To: 'azvjc'
Subject: [az_vjc] A must to watch FOX TV
I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
================================================== ===============
"VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
MAY 19, 20TH.
SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS, STOPPING ENERGY
PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING THOUSANDS OUT OF
WORK.
IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT
FOX ALSO LOOKS AT EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE
GROUSE TO JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN
AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE..
OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
- AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE AMERICANS
LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
- THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
- ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
- GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE
SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL ENVIRONMENTAL
AGENDA.
- ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE DAMS,
NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL MINING
Regards
Randy Siade
Engineering Manager
Unisys Unigen Operations
6161 W. Erie Street
Chandler, AZ 85226
Phone 480 783-5911
Fax 480 783-5960
Cell 602-329-0699
randy.siade@u...
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Date: Fri May 18, 2001 9:30am
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BLM endorses the Checkered Flag Program
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ASA plans to embark on a Public Safety Education Program in October 2001. The Checkered Flag Pledge, the BLM ISDRA Rules and the California OHV Laws will be the foundation for the ASA safety program. BLM's endorsement of the checkered flag adds significant support to the safety program. Larry Caffey of BLM will coordinate BLM's support.
The complete text of Mr. Thomsen's 4/23/01 letter follows:
Dear Keith:
I am in receipt of your letter dated April 16, 2001. By way of this letter, you are requesting the BLM's endorsement of the Checkered Flag Program. I believe this program to be very beneficial. It not only makes duners more conscious of their own responsibilities while recreating on public lands but is also illustrates the management of the public lands is a joint venture between BLM and the public.
I gladly lend my support of the Checkered Flag Program and look forward to working with you and other American Sand Association members in developing public education programs as it relates to public lands.
Sincerely,
/s/ Greg Thomsen
Field Office Manager
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23913 From: Dan Siegel <cruzeunit@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 9:36am
Subject: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
A spare tie rod. If you bend one you may be able to get home but if
you bend it bad or break it your stuck, the jeep will be un-
steerable. They are long & thin & easy to stash under the back seat.
You can usually find a used one from somone who has swapped for a
bigger one. (of course lots of people keep there old ones as spares)
Or try looking at a junk yard.
Dan Siegel
CJ-7 (has spent the night on the rocks because of a busted tie rod.)
23914 From: Michael Earls <michael@c...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 9:54am
Subject: RE: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
I suppose the next question is a bit more than obvious...
Anyone have a spare tie rod that will fit a 2001 TJ? I'll pay, of course.
Michael Earls
2001 Silver TJ
http://www.cerkit.com/
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Siegel [mailto:cruzeunit@y...]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:36 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
A spare tie rod. If you bend one you may be able to get home but if
you bend it bad or break it your stuck, the jeep will be un-
steerable. They are long & thin & easy to stash under the back seat.
You can usually find a used one from somone who has swapped for a
bigger one. (of course lots of people keep there old ones as spares)
Or try looking at a junk yard.
Dan Siegel
CJ-7 (has spent the night on the rocks because of a busted tie rod.)
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23915 From: <kcvehr@n...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:01am
Subject: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
Challenger Products makes a replacement unit that is designed to
bend, not break, and then return to it's original shape, it's
gaurunteed not to break. This is better that a spare since you don't
have to do any trail repairs. OffRoad Unlimited carries them as does
MacroMotive.com.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Michael Earls" <michael@c...> wrote:
> I suppose the next question is a bit more than obvious...
>
> Anyone have a spare tie rod that will fit a 2001 TJ? I'll pay, of
course.
>
> Michael Earls
> 2001 Silver TJ
> http://www.cerkit.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Siegel [mailto:cruzeunit@y...]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:36 AM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
>
>
> A spare tie rod. If you bend one you may be able to get home but
if
> you bend it bad or break it your stuck, the jeep will be un-
> steerable. They are long & thin & easy to stash under the back
seat.
> You can usually find a used one from somone who has swapped for a
> bigger one. (of course lots of people keep there old ones as
spares)
> Or try looking at a junk yard.
>
> Dan Siegel
> CJ-7 (has spent the night on the rocks because of a busted tie
rod.)
>
>
>
>
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23916 From: TRobertsRN <TRobertsRN@e...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:09am
Subject: Re: Temp Sensor/Gauge problems
This may sound odd but is the radiator full and the over flow bottle full? Low fluid can cause this oddity of incorrect gauge reading until the vehicle overheats.
Tom
78 Cherokee WT
----- Original Message -----
From: Joey K
To: Az_Vjc
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 8:44 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Temp Sensor/Gauge problems
Here is a brain teaser.
Recently on the freeway I looked at the temp gauge and it was reading 100 deg. My 4 cyl. usually runs at 210 deg. I have recently replaced the temp sensor and it has been working great.
When I get in the Jeep when it is cold the gauge starts to indicate the rising temperature all the way up to 210 deg. When it gets to 210 it hangs there for a bit then it steadily slowly falls back to 100 deg. The 100 mark is up from where it sits when the Jeep is off. I am puzzled. I replaced the new sensor for the old one, which was good, with the same results. I have also check all wiring and connections, including to the computer connector, sensor and gauge.
Also of note. There is no discernable performance that I have noticed.
Any help is appreciated.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
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23917 From: <kcvehr@n...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:07am
Subject: Shifter problems
Can anyone tell me an easy way to bend the manual transmission shift
lever on a TJ? I put a 1" body lift on my Jeep last night and now I
have interference between the shift lever and my OX Trax shifter
knob, it's very difficult to get into 2nd & 4th.
Thanks in advance for any help & ideas.
Kurt (KC) Vehr
'98 TJ
23918 From: Daver <daver@c...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:06am
Subject: Re: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
On a stock TJ that you aren't lifting or anything, you'll also probably
want to consider some kind of oil pan and steering box protection.
<snip>
23919 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:12am
Subject: YJ U-joint problem
I got this email from a friend of mine in NM, wanted to ask the YJ
specialists here:
"Friend of mine is having some trouble with his YJ, thought I'd run
it past you for some thoughts. He has a 1.5" spring lift with the
drop down for the t-case. This guy goes through u-joints like no
other and doesn't really take it off road all that much at all. Have
you heard of anybody else having this problem? Also, do you know a
good place (ie, cheap) for parts for YJ's?"
Thanks all.
Dan
23920 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:19am
Subject: RE: Shifter problems
Make sure you remove the rubber insulator tube that sits around the base of
the shifter (made of foam rubber and is a snug fit right around the base of
the shifter)... it will buy you more clearance.
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kcvehr@n... [mailto:kcvehr@n...]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:07 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Shifter problems
>
>
> Can anyone tell me an easy way to bend the manual transmission shift
> lever on a TJ? I put a 1" body lift on my Jeep last night and now I
> have interference between the shift lever and my OX Trax shifter
> knob, it's very difficult to get into 2nd & 4th.
> Thanks in advance for any help & ideas.
> Kurt (KC) Vehr
> '98 TJ
>
>
>
>
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>
23921 From: Randall A. Mutter <ramaz@h...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:32am
Subject: Rear Tow Point
Hi All
I am looking for something that will fit in to my 2" receiver that I can attach a clevis (spelling ?) loop to.
I was going to just buy a piece of 2" square cold rold steel and drill 1 hole for the pin and 1 hole for the loop pin. Does anyone know where I can get some of the steel in the East Valley.
Thanks
RAM 95 Cherokee
23922 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:31am
Subject: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
With that tire package you may or may not have D44 in the rear. If
you do, you'll probably be ok with what your going to be doing with
the jeep.
BUT if you have a D35 and do anything more than street driving, your
skating on thin ice. The D35 is notoriously weak (ask my
girlfriend's jeep). Many jeepers have broken the axle shafts in the
D35....but some have not. To date I am lucky to not have broken one,
but I have upgraded the axle shafts as well. Being on the rocks with
Swampers and a locker, my days with the D35 are definately numbered.
In summary, if you have the D35, spare shafts and the ability/tools
to change one or 2 would be extrememly beneficial, you can't drive a
jeep with with a broken axle that has c-clips.
Suggestion: get stronger axles from Moser Engineering
(www.moserengineering.com) and carry your stock ones as spares.
My 2 cents...
Dan
--- In az_vjc@y..., Daver <daver@c...> wrote:
> On a stock TJ that you aren't lifting or anything, you'll also
probably
> want to consider some kind of oil pan and steering box protection.
>
> <snip>
23923 From: Blake Van de Loo <blake@m...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:34am
Subject: RE: Rear Tow Point
I just use an old 2" drop for a ball hitch. Take the ball out and insert the shackle pin. I also turn mine over for a better departure angle.
Blake
-----Original Message-----
From: Randall A. Mutter [mailto:ramaz@home.com]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:32 AM
To: Azvjc
Subject: [az_vjc] Rear Tow Point
Hi All
I am looking for something that will fit in to my 2" receiver that I can attach a clevis (spelling ?) loop to.
I was going to just buy a piece of 2" square cold rold steel and drill 1 hole for the pin and 1 hole for the loop pin. Does anyone know where I can get some of the steel in the East Valley.
Thanks
RAM 95 Cherokee
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23924 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:58am
Subject: RE: Rear Tow Point
I made my own. I went to Jan's Iron and Metal on Center and Southern and bought a piece of 2" solid. I then ground in down on two sides so the clevis would fit. Here is a picture.
-----Original Message-----
From: Randall A. Mutter [mailto:ramaz@home.com]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:32 AM
To: Azvjc
Subject: [az_vjc] Rear Tow Point
Hi All
I am looking for something that will fit in to my 2" receiver that I can attach a clevis (spelling ?) loop to.
I was going to just buy a piece of 2" square cold rold steel and drill 1 hole for the pin and 1 hole for the loop pin. Does anyone know where I can get some of the steel in the East Valley.
Thanks
RAM 95 Cherokee
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23900 From: Daryl Faust <louddog71@y...>
Date: Thu May 17, 2001 11:23pm
Subject: 4.0 exhaust manifold interesting facts
I was going over my employment history and I was
remembering my first job out of college in the
engineering department at Aluminum Casting &
Engineering Company in Milwaukee Wisconsin. ACE/CO
for short. I wasn't into jeeps then, so it never
really crossed my mind, but ACE/CO makes the exhaust
manifold for all the 4.0 engines. At that time (6
years ago) they were casted in semi-perm mold tilt
cast machines. We used to leak test every one by
sealing them up and filling them with air (i think it
was just 5psi) then dunking them about a foot under
water and watch for bubbles for 10 seconds. The good
ones were shipped out and the leakers went to get
impregnated (a process where basically the voids get
filled with a composite under high pressure). The
impregnated ones were leak tested again. If they
passed they were shipped out, if they failed,
sometimes they were re-melted, sometimes impregnated
again...
I remember thinking at that time "i wouldn't want one
in my car that was impregnated once, yet alone twice."
I worked there 4 months and ran away.
Note: In aluminum castings, leaks are caused by
porosity or shrink (basically the same thing) which is
the result of pouring the aluminum too cold (or cold
spots on the die or poor casting design...).
Basically the leaks mean the casting is not
structurally sound. Impregnating does not add
strength, it just seals.
Wasn't there a rash of postings about cracked exhaust manifolds...
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23901 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 0:51am
Subject: Daddy Longlegs - Test Drive!!
Woohoo! After working all day Saturday & Sunday, and then on the evenings on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday I finally finished up the main installation of the RE longarm kit and went on a 30 mile test drive. The TJ hasn't handled or ridden this good since it was stock. Even with 6" coils and 35's the ride was superb. Of all the vehicles I've ever driven on rutted gravel roads the TJ was the smoothest and most stable even at 50 mph.
Compared to my old RE 4.5" kit I noted quite a few differences in how it handled. I could not get it to lift the left front tire anymore. I did not notice any torque roll of the body under acceleration. On takeoff the Jeep just drives straight and level, even with the Detroit in the rear. I'll keep the group up to date if I notice anything negative.
I still need to cutoff the rear axle shock mounts and weld on the new ones. Then I can determine what length shocks I'll need.
I also found that the exhaust noise is unbearable with nothing past the catalytic converter. I'll get that taken care of soon.
The alignment seems ok but I'll have it put on a rack anyway. FLEXXY are you reading this?
The brakes pull to the left. I need to go back out and bleed the brakes again.
I called RE to order one of the newer rear trackbar relocation brackets. This one is designed to clock the trackbar forward when you run a CV driveshaft.
The new RE Extreme front trackbar and front relocation bracket eliminated the noisy heim joint and seemed to eliminate any bumpsteer that I used to feel with my 1 ton steering setup.
I already had lifted motor mounts installed so I had no problems with the new low profile crossmember. It raised the tcase up an inch or two.
I had alot of trouble with my lower axle brackets. OR Fab had boxed them in 1/4" plate and it took some fab work to get the new arms to fit correctly. The dimensions were screwed up and after about an hour of cutting, welding, and grinding per bracket the new lowers fit nicely. Cutting off the brackets on the frame turned out to be a b*tch. I had OR Fab gusset them with 1/4" plate which made for alot of time with a 4.5" angle grinder and sawzall. I think I spent a good 8 hours cutting off and grinding down the welds on those 4 brackets.
Anyway I'll try to post some pics this weekend. I'll be finishing up the last details that I can on Saturday morning.
Later,
Scott
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23902 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 0:55am
Subject: Re: Gas Tank Skid Plate info.
I'll sell you my Tomken cheap and use the money towards a Kilby replacement. Seriously though. Don't even look any further than the Kilby. One benefit is that it raises the tank an inch for more clearance. I got my Tomken long before Brad starting building his. I'll eventually upgrade.
Scott
"Hargadine, Daron" wrote:
Thanks to everyone who sent me info. on the skid plates. My friend will probably go with the Kilby or Tomken. Thanks,
Daron
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23903 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 7:20am
Subject: A must to watch FOX TV
I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
================================================== ===============
"VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
MAY 19, 20TH.
SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS, STOPPING ENERGY
PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING THOUSANDS OUT OF
WORK.
IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT
FOX ALSO LOOKS AT EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE
GROUSE TO JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN
AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE..
OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
- AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE AMERICANS
LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
- THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
- ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
- GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE
SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL ENVIRONMENTAL
AGENDA.
- ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE DAMS,
NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL MINING
Regards
Randy Siade
Engineering Manager
Unisys Unigen Operations
6161 W. Erie Street
Chandler, AZ 85226
Phone 480 783-5911
Fax 480 783-5960
Cell 602-329-0699
randy.siade@u...
23904 From: David W. Smith <dwsmith69@h...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 7:56am
Subject: Re: Fuel Leak???
I don't know about the TJ's but my yj leaked where the fuel assending unit
went into the tank. Had to replace the gasket.
>From: "Rick Hall" <ricknhall@h...>
>To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Fuel Leak???
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 17:34:05 -0700
>
>I know it's leaking but I can't find it. I have a 98TJ with a Tomken skid.
> When I fillup with gas (not overfill, when the pump shuts off I'm done) I
>end up with a little gas in my skid. I checked all of the fittings, the
>top of the tank no results. I have checked the sides and don't see any
>indication that gas has been running down the tank or from the top. I
>would think i damaged the tank itself but it only happens when I fillup.
>It's got to be the overflow but I can't find any signs that there is a leak
>there either. After the fuel evaporates I'm fine until the next fillup.
>Anybody have a guess?????
>
>Rick
>ricknhall@h...
>
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23905 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:20am
Subject: Re: 4.0 exhaust manifold interesting facts
Daryl,
There have been a lot of cracked manifolds reported. If you go to the
RAM-WJ newsgroup there is always something about them. This would
explain part of it. I'm thinking that since this is not a "safety
issue" that is why there hasn't been a recall of some sort.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., Daryl Faust <louddog71@y...> wrote:
> I was going over my employment history and I was
> remembering my first job out of college in the
> engineering department at Aluminum Casting &
> Engineering Company in Milwaukee Wisconsin. ACE/CO
> for short. I wasn't into jeeps then, so it never
> really crossed my mind, but ACE/CO makes the exhaust
> manifold for all the 4.0 engines. At that time (6
> years ago) they were casted in semi-perm mold tilt
> cast machines. We used to leak test every one by
> sealing them up and filling them with air (i think it
> was just 5psi) then dunking them about a foot under
> water and watch for bubbles for 10 seconds. The good
> ones were shipped out and the leakers went to get
> impregnated (a process where basically the voids get
> filled with a composite under high pressure). The
> impregnated ones were leak tested again. If they
> passed they were shipped out, if they failed,
> sometimes they were re-melted, sometimes impregnated
> again...
> I remember thinking at that time "i wouldn't want one
> in my car that was impregnated once, yet alone twice."
> I worked there 4 months and ran away.
>
> Note: In aluminum castings, leaks are caused by
> porosity or shrink (basically the same thing) which is
> the result of pouring the aluminum too cold (or cold
> spots on the die or poor casting design...).
> Basically the leaks mean the casting is not
> structurally sound. Impregnating does not add
> strength, it just seals.
>
> Wasn't there a rash of postings about cracked exhaust manifolds...
>
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23906 From: <jeremy_jdawg@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:24am
Subject: Re: lift party
The lift Party will be his Saturday at 9:00
At Chris Krieg's place, The directions are printed below
Let me know what kind of food and drinks you guys like
THX
Jeremy
4 inch superlift going on a 98 tj
--- In az_vjc@y..., Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...> wrote:
> 9:00am (not an early riser). My garage in Chandler.
>
> Directions:
> Cooper Rd (aka Stapely Rd at US60) south past Chandler Blvd
> 2nd street on the left past Chandler Blvd is Kempton
> Turn left
> 2nd street on the left is Marie Dr.
> Turn Left
> 2nd house on the right is my house
> 443 S. Marie Dr.
> My garage will be open and my Blue TJ will be parked outside.
>
> Remember Jeremy. The owner of the vehicle being lifted provides
beverages
> (Diet Coke for me please) and lunch for the work gang.
>
> If someone has an electric or air impact wrench it will make the
work
> easier. I have an air compressor, but my air impact wrench sucks.
>
> Who else is coming?
>
> Chris K
>
>
> > From: jeremy_jdawg@y...
> > Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 01:11:28 -0000
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] lift party
> >
> > For any of you interested, Hopefully We will be puting on the lift
> > this saturday the 28th, As for the time and specific directions, i
> > don't have those yet. All I know is that we may be doing it at
Chris
> > K's place. I'm just waiting to here back from him. he lives in
> > Chandelr On Cooper and Pecos. So if any of you would like to come
> > out , I would appreciate the help putting the 4" superlift on my
TJ.
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
23907 From: Rabenius John-AJR300 <AJR300@m...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:28am
Subject: RE: AzVJC 3rd Anniversary (Aug 2001) Trail Run?
SYCAMORE CREEK AREA IS VERY BIG. We could split up into groups and go off in different trails. There are the hills by the wash for some to play on, and there are harder trails (3.5+) for those of us who want something more challenging.
Just my .02 worth.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:45 AM
To: Chatfield, Mike; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] AzVJC 3rd Anniversary (Aug 2001) Trail Run?
Well....it can always be a night run!
Stu
-----Original Message-----
From: Chatfield, Mike [mailto:mike.chatfield@p...]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:25 AM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [az_vjc] AzVJC 3rd Anniversary (Aug 2001) Trail Run?
Hello All,
If I read the archives correctly, August 16th will mark the 3rd Anniversary
of the first AzVJC trail run. I think we need to have a trail run to
celebrate. Any suggestions as to the trail? The trail should be doable for
"stock" Jeeps so that all may participate. I know the first run was Crown
King, or we can go with FR-42, or the Coves; it'll still be a bit on the hot
side, so something in the mountains is probably better. Suggestions for the
date? August 18th is the first Saturday after the 16th, is this suitable?
Something like this will likely draw quite a crowd, so we'll want to break
down into "sub-groups" no matter which trail we choose. Probably 10-15 Jeeps
per group. So we'll need group leaders, any volunteers?
Mike Chatfield
Mike@A... <mailto:Mike@A...>
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23908 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:35am
Subject: RE: A must to watch FOX TV
Can anyone tell me if this is a two part series....or is it the same program
being offered on two nights. If it is a two parter....looks like the VCR
will be rolling for the first half.
Thanks.......Stu
-----Original Message-----
From: Siade, Randy [mailto:randy.siade@u...]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:20 AM
To: 'azvjc'
Subject: [az_vjc] A must to watch FOX TV
I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
================================================== ===============
"VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
MAY 19, 20TH.
SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS, STOPPING ENERGY
PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING THOUSANDS OUT OF
WORK.
IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT
FOX ALSO LOOKS AT EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE
GROUSE TO JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN
AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE..
OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
- AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE AMERICANS
LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
- THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
- ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
- GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE
SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL ENVIRONMENTAL
AGENDA.
- ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE DAMS,
NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL MINING
Regards
Randy Siade
Engineering Manager
Unisys Unigen Operations
6161 W. Erie Street
Chandler, AZ 85226
Phone 480 783-5911
Fax 480 783-5960
Cell 602-329-0699
randy.siade@u...
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23909 From: Joey K <joey@j...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 8:44am
Subject: Temp Sensor/Gauge problems
Here is a brain teaser.
Recently on the freeway I looked at the temp gauge and it was reading 100 deg. My 4 cyl. usually runs at 210 deg. I have recently replaced the temp sensor and it has been working great.
When I get in the Jeep when it is cold the gauge starts to indicate the rising temperature all the way up to 210 deg. When it gets to 210 it hangs there for a bit then it steadily slowly falls back to 100 deg. The 100 mark is up from where it sits when the Jeep is off. I am puzzled. I replaced the new sensor for the old one, which was good, with the same results. I have also check all wiring and connections, including to the computer connector, sensor and gauge.
Also of note. There is no discernable performance that I have noticed.
Any help is appreciated.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
23910 From: Michael Earls <michael@c...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 9:07am
Subject: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
Greetings,
We're driving a 2001 stock TJ and we're looking to ensure that we have
things covered in the event of a surprise attack from a rock. We will be
using our Jeep to explore the state, not so much to play on the "playground"
(though we do this from time to time to "practice").
I know we'll need to install a Gas tank skid plate, but what about the
front? I'd hate to break something while on a trail and not be ready for
it.
What are the most common parts to get sacrificed on the 3.5 and lower
trails?
We have stock clearance and 30" tires. We do not plan to lift it or get
bigger tires so spare parts (or underbody armor) are the answer(s) we're
looking for.
Thanks,
Michael and Laurie Earls
2001 Silver TJ
http://www.cerkit.com
23911 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 9:25am
Subject: RE: A must to watch FOX TV
I think it is a two part series.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 8:36 AM
To: Siade, Randy; 'azvjc'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] A must to watch FOX TV
Can anyone tell me if this is a two part series....or is it the same program
being offered on two nights. If it is a two parter....looks like the VCR
will be rolling for the first half.
Thanks.......Stu
-----Original Message-----
From: Siade, Randy [mailto:randy.siade@u...]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:20 AM
To: 'azvjc'
Subject: [az_vjc] A must to watch FOX TV
I'm sure we're all aware how slanted the news produced by
the left-leaning, liberal media is. Finally, here's a news
story free of that annoying, liberal media bias. It will be
broadcast by FOX NEWS this weekend.
================================================== ===============
"VANISHING FREEDOM 2: WHO OWNS AMERICA" WILL AIR THIS WEEKEND,
MAY 19, 20TH.
SATURDAY 10 P.M. EST / 7 P.M. PACIFIC
SUNDAY 8 P.M. EST / 5 P.M. PACIFIC
THE FOX NEWS SPECIAL "VANISHING FREEDOM 2" EXPOSES HOW AN EXTREME
ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA IS ROBBING AMERICANS OF THEIR RIGHTS, STOPPING ENERGY
PRODUCTION, SHUTTING DOWN ENTIRE INDUSTRIES AND PUTTING THOUSANDS OUT OF
WORK.
IT BEGINS WITH A LOOK AT THE WILDLANDS PROJECT
FOX ALSO LOOKS AT EFFORTS TO END GRAZING ON PUBLIC LAND, USING THE SAGE
GROUSE TO JUSTIFY GOVERNMENT ACTIONS TO YANK PERMITS AND PROHIBIT AN
AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE..
OTHER STORIES INCLUDE:
- AGENDA 21, AND HOW THE UNITED NATIONS WANTS TO CONTROL WHERE AMERICANS
LIVE AND WHAT THEY DO.
- THE EARTH LIBERATION FRONT'S CAMPAIGN OF ECO-TERRORISM,
- ABUSE OF THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT IN KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON
- GREEN PORK, A LOOK AT HOW PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS AND U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE
SPENDS TAXPAYER MONEY ABROAD TO PROMOTE A CONTROVERSIAL ENVIRONMENTAL
AGENDA.
- ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT. MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS OPPOSE DAMS,
NUCLEAR POWER, NATURAL GAS PIPELINES, OIL EXPLORATION, COAL MINING
Regards
Randy Siade
Engineering Manager
Unisys Unigen Operations
6161 W. Erie Street
Chandler, AZ 85226
Phone 480 783-5911
Fax 480 783-5960
Cell 602-329-0699
randy.siade@u...
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23912 From: Gary MacLaren <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 9:30am
Subject: GlamisOnline.htm
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BLM endorses the Checkered Flag Program
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ASA plans to embark on a Public Safety Education Program in October 2001. The Checkered Flag Pledge, the BLM ISDRA Rules and the California OHV Laws will be the foundation for the ASA safety program. BLM's endorsement of the checkered flag adds significant support to the safety program. Larry Caffey of BLM will coordinate BLM's support.
The complete text of Mr. Thomsen's 4/23/01 letter follows:
Dear Keith:
I am in receipt of your letter dated April 16, 2001. By way of this letter, you are requesting the BLM's endorsement of the Checkered Flag Program. I believe this program to be very beneficial. It not only makes duners more conscious of their own responsibilities while recreating on public lands but is also illustrates the management of the public lands is a joint venture between BLM and the public.
I gladly lend my support of the Checkered Flag Program and look forward to working with you and other American Sand Association members in developing public education programs as it relates to public lands.
Sincerely,
/s/ Greg Thomsen
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23913 From: Dan Siegel <cruzeunit@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 9:36am
Subject: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
A spare tie rod. If you bend one you may be able to get home but if
you bend it bad or break it your stuck, the jeep will be un-
steerable. They are long & thin & easy to stash under the back seat.
You can usually find a used one from somone who has swapped for a
bigger one. (of course lots of people keep there old ones as spares)
Or try looking at a junk yard.
Dan Siegel
CJ-7 (has spent the night on the rocks because of a busted tie rod.)
23914 From: Michael Earls <michael@c...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 9:54am
Subject: RE: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
I suppose the next question is a bit more than obvious...
Anyone have a spare tie rod that will fit a 2001 TJ? I'll pay, of course.
Michael Earls
2001 Silver TJ
http://www.cerkit.com/
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Siegel [mailto:cruzeunit@y...]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:36 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
A spare tie rod. If you bend one you may be able to get home but if
you bend it bad or break it your stuck, the jeep will be un-
steerable. They are long & thin & easy to stash under the back seat.
You can usually find a used one from somone who has swapped for a
bigger one. (of course lots of people keep there old ones as spares)
Or try looking at a junk yard.
Dan Siegel
CJ-7 (has spent the night on the rocks because of a busted tie rod.)
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23915 From: <kcvehr@n...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:01am
Subject: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
Challenger Products makes a replacement unit that is designed to
bend, not break, and then return to it's original shape, it's
gaurunteed not to break. This is better that a spare since you don't
have to do any trail repairs. OffRoad Unlimited carries them as does
MacroMotive.com.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Michael Earls" <michael@c...> wrote:
> I suppose the next question is a bit more than obvious...
>
> Anyone have a spare tie rod that will fit a 2001 TJ? I'll pay, of
course.
>
> Michael Earls
> 2001 Silver TJ
> http://www.cerkit.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Siegel [mailto:cruzeunit@y...]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:36 AM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
>
>
> A spare tie rod. If you bend one you may be able to get home but
if
> you bend it bad or break it your stuck, the jeep will be un-
> steerable. They are long & thin & easy to stash under the back
seat.
> You can usually find a used one from somone who has swapped for a
> bigger one. (of course lots of people keep there old ones as
spares)
> Or try looking at a junk yard.
>
> Dan Siegel
> CJ-7 (has spent the night on the rocks because of a busted tie
rod.)
>
>
>
>
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23916 From: TRobertsRN <TRobertsRN@e...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:09am
Subject: Re: Temp Sensor/Gauge problems
This may sound odd but is the radiator full and the over flow bottle full? Low fluid can cause this oddity of incorrect gauge reading until the vehicle overheats.
Tom
78 Cherokee WT
----- Original Message -----
From: Joey K
To: Az_Vjc
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 8:44 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Temp Sensor/Gauge problems
Here is a brain teaser.
Recently on the freeway I looked at the temp gauge and it was reading 100 deg. My 4 cyl. usually runs at 210 deg. I have recently replaced the temp sensor and it has been working great.
When I get in the Jeep when it is cold the gauge starts to indicate the rising temperature all the way up to 210 deg. When it gets to 210 it hangs there for a bit then it steadily slowly falls back to 100 deg. The 100 mark is up from where it sits when the Jeep is off. I am puzzled. I replaced the new sensor for the old one, which was good, with the same results. I have also check all wiring and connections, including to the computer connector, sensor and gauge.
Also of note. There is no discernable performance that I have noticed.
Any help is appreciated.
Joey K
93YJ
www.desertjeep.com
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23917 From: <kcvehr@n...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:07am
Subject: Shifter problems
Can anyone tell me an easy way to bend the manual transmission shift
lever on a TJ? I put a 1" body lift on my Jeep last night and now I
have interference between the shift lever and my OX Trax shifter
knob, it's very difficult to get into 2nd & 4th.
Thanks in advance for any help & ideas.
Kurt (KC) Vehr
'98 TJ
23918 From: Daver <daver@c...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:06am
Subject: Re: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
On a stock TJ that you aren't lifting or anything, you'll also probably
want to consider some kind of oil pan and steering box protection.
<snip>
23919 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:12am
Subject: YJ U-joint problem
I got this email from a friend of mine in NM, wanted to ask the YJ
specialists here:
"Friend of mine is having some trouble with his YJ, thought I'd run
it past you for some thoughts. He has a 1.5" spring lift with the
drop down for the t-case. This guy goes through u-joints like no
other and doesn't really take it off road all that much at all. Have
you heard of anybody else having this problem? Also, do you know a
good place (ie, cheap) for parts for YJ's?"
Thanks all.
Dan
23920 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:19am
Subject: RE: Shifter problems
Make sure you remove the rubber insulator tube that sits around the base of
the shifter (made of foam rubber and is a snug fit right around the base of
the shifter)... it will buy you more clearance.
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kcvehr@n... [mailto:kcvehr@n...]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:07 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Shifter problems
>
>
> Can anyone tell me an easy way to bend the manual transmission shift
> lever on a TJ? I put a 1" body lift on my Jeep last night and now I
> have interference between the shift lever and my OX Trax shifter
> knob, it's very difficult to get into 2nd & 4th.
> Thanks in advance for any help & ideas.
> Kurt (KC) Vehr
> '98 TJ
>
>
>
>
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>
>
23921 From: Randall A. Mutter <ramaz@h...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:32am
Subject: Rear Tow Point
Hi All
I am looking for something that will fit in to my 2" receiver that I can attach a clevis (spelling ?) loop to.
I was going to just buy a piece of 2" square cold rold steel and drill 1 hole for the pin and 1 hole for the loop pin. Does anyone know where I can get some of the steel in the East Valley.
Thanks
RAM 95 Cherokee
23922 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:31am
Subject: Re: Suggestions on spare parts for trail running
With that tire package you may or may not have D44 in the rear. If
you do, you'll probably be ok with what your going to be doing with
the jeep.
BUT if you have a D35 and do anything more than street driving, your
skating on thin ice. The D35 is notoriously weak (ask my
girlfriend's jeep). Many jeepers have broken the axle shafts in the
D35....but some have not. To date I am lucky to not have broken one,
but I have upgraded the axle shafts as well. Being on the rocks with
Swampers and a locker, my days with the D35 are definately numbered.
In summary, if you have the D35, spare shafts and the ability/tools
to change one or 2 would be extrememly beneficial, you can't drive a
jeep with with a broken axle that has c-clips.
Suggestion: get stronger axles from Moser Engineering
(www.moserengineering.com) and carry your stock ones as spares.
My 2 cents...
Dan
--- In az_vjc@y..., Daver <daver@c...> wrote:
> On a stock TJ that you aren't lifting or anything, you'll also
probably
> want to consider some kind of oil pan and steering box protection.
>
> <snip>
23923 From: Blake Van de Loo <blake@m...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:34am
Subject: RE: Rear Tow Point
I just use an old 2" drop for a ball hitch. Take the ball out and insert the shackle pin. I also turn mine over for a better departure angle.
Blake
-----Original Message-----
From: Randall A. Mutter [mailto:ramaz@home.com]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:32 AM
To: Azvjc
Subject: [az_vjc] Rear Tow Point
Hi All
I am looking for something that will fit in to my 2" receiver that I can attach a clevis (spelling ?) loop to.
I was going to just buy a piece of 2" square cold rold steel and drill 1 hole for the pin and 1 hole for the loop pin. Does anyone know where I can get some of the steel in the East Valley.
Thanks
RAM 95 Cherokee
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23924 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:58am
Subject: RE: Rear Tow Point
I made my own. I went to Jan's Iron and Metal on Center and Southern and bought a piece of 2" solid. I then ground in down on two sides so the clevis would fit. Here is a picture.
-----Original Message-----
From: Randall A. Mutter [mailto:ramaz@home.com]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:32 AM
To: Azvjc
Subject: [az_vjc] Rear Tow Point
Hi All
I am looking for something that will fit in to my 2" receiver that I can attach a clevis (spelling ?) loop to.
I was going to just buy a piece of 2" square cold rold steel and drill 1 hole for the pin and 1 hole for the loop pin. Does anyone know where I can get some of the steel in the East Valley.
Thanks
RAM 95 Cherokee
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