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23775 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Tue May 15, 2001 6:43pm
Subject: :::::OT Post:::::: Rock lights, Windsheilds, and Weirdos.......
Well, to the best of my knowledge and the other officers I have talked to,
haveing lights under your car is not illegal. ( I have seen alot of fire
trucks with their own version of ground lighting) They starting ticketing
poeple not because of the lights but because of the color of the light. The
only color you are allowed to see on a vehicle is red, yellow and white.
Most of the neon lighting was of green, orange, purple, pink, blue etc. A
couple of years ago, I knew some guys that beat the ticket, because they
argued that the light was red and the judge threw it out. Again it came to
color. Red, brake lights= off the hook. My other freind who had green
lights under his green honda = $250ticket. As I mentioned before, my lights
are all white, under 35 watts and are faceing foward. I should be good.
Weirdo 's adventure with the law ..The saga continues
I was once at a search in Wenden where the command post was at DPS
office. At one point, there were 9 officers looking over my rig. (Yes I was
nervous) Considering the fact that I was there with the Sheriffs Dept, and
they would be nice to me I asked them about my lights, and my lack of
windsheild. None had a problem with rock lights, all though one senoir
officer did ask about how bright they were. Once I informed him they were
only 20 watt lights and they all faced foward, he seemed happy and left me
alone. No one thought it was illegal, and no one could even think of any law
that pertained to it. (I had to explain for 10 minutes why I had lights
underneath in the first place)
Also, (back to the windsheild question) only 2 of them had a problem with
me not haveing a windsheild. They said that all factory built vehicles
require a windsheild. I said fine, I built it and was never ment to have a
windsheild. The 2 stared at me for awhile and said "OK" The others were
just stumped. I asked if they could think of any law that said "Blah blah
must have windsheild blah blah" , they just stared at me and said "No."
Does this mean its legal? I have still no idea. Will this story get you
out of a ticket .. I have no idea. I have ever read the law in the books at
the state and city levels... nope. This is just my personal adventure.
Your version may differ.
John K AKA Weirdo
Got my dogs, got my burgers got my shades, waitin for the flames LOL
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23776 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue May 15, 2001 11:18pm
Subject: Re: LU Interesting post from newsgroup: Massachusetts Dept of Environmental Manage
This is the future in Arizona if eco-terrorist groups like the Sierra
Club, SW Center for Biodiversity, Nature Conservancy, SALT, Karla, etc.
have their way. If you want to do any real 4-wheeling in the New England
area you have to be friendly with private landowners. Enough pressure
has been put on National forests to keep motorized recreation out that
they are pretty much off limits except for all weather graded roads. Oh
and they don't have State Trust Land in most of those states. Accessing
4x4s trail on Indian reservations and military reservations would take
an act of congress. We have it made out here in Az -- at least for a few
months or years. The United Four Wheel Drive Association (UFWDA) has
been fighting ridiculous rules about motorized recreation in national
forests. Some progress has been made, but it is doubtful that the
4-wheelers in this part of the country will ever have what we have here
(at least for right now). The area is too populated.
I'll bet that all the people that Brett Penkul questioned had never even
ridden in a 4x4 vehicle.
Linda
Felix and Kerry Santi wrote:
>
> Just something I read off the newsgroup, interesting that an offical
> would respond like that.
>
> **
> Hello All-
>
> Last week I was searching the web for places (State of MA) to off-
> road, and
> found the Mass DEM web site. After a bit of searching I found that
> there are
> trails open to ORVs. However, there is a thousand pound weight limit.
> So, I
> sent an e-mail to the provided address and I did get a response. One
> which,
> admittedly, I didn't like. However, I asked for clarification and
> received
> nothing but what seemed to be personal opinion and a recommendation
> to visit
> parks to inspect 4x4 damage versus any type of scientific study. I'm
> posting
> the e-mails here exactly as they were sent. I think my state rep. may
> need
> to hear from me.
>
> To: ISMTPMAOut@I...@servers["'Mass.Parks@S...'"
> <Mass.Parks@s...>]
>
> Hello-
>
> I am hoping that you might answer a question for me. I own a 2000 Jeep
> Wrangler and I have been looking for trails on which to operate. After
> reviewing the policies for the parks in MA, I find that I am unable to
> operate my vehicle due to the 1000 pound weight restriction. What is
> the
> purpose of this limit and is there any time when a responsible
> operator may
> partake in trail use, as does the rest of the general public (hikers,
> snow-mobiles, bicycle riders, dirt bikes, etc?)
>
> Thank you in advance for your time and consideration of my question.
>
> Brett Penkul
> Corporate Quality Assurance
> Infogrames, Inc
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> From: Mass Parks@Admin@DEM Boston, on 04/19/2001 4:44 PM:
>
> Peter,
> Could you respond?
>
> Thanks,
> Barb
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> From: peter brandenburg [mailto:Peter.Brandenburg@s...]
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 6:23 AM
> Subject: re: ORV Weight Limit
>
> Within Massachusetts State Forests and Parks, trails are not managed
> for
> recreational driving of full-sized four wheel drive vehicles.
> Vehicles over
>
> 1000 lbs are prohibited from Forests and Parks trail systems. There
> are many
>
> miles of country roads in the Forests and Parks open to travel by
> four-wheel
> drive, and other legally registered vehicles, which will allow you to
> get
> far
> off the beaten path and into the wilder areas of many state forests.
> However,
> these are maintained gravel and paved roads which generally do not
> offer an
> "
> off-road" experience.
>
> Most abandoned, unmaintained ways and logging roads are integral to
> the
> recreational trail and forest fire control systems of the Forests and
> Parks,
>
> which DEM manages for the widest possible range of visitors - hikers,
> bikers,
> horseback riders, and others. History has shown us that the impacts
> caused
> by full-size, four wheel vehicle use preclude the enjoyment of these
> trails
> by the majority of users, and often lead to irreparable damage to the
> natural
> resources which DEM is charged with protecting.
>
> ************************************************** ********************
> Peter Brandenburg, Trails Program Coordinator
> Massachusetts Department of Environmental Management
> Division of Forests & Parks
> 251 Causeway Street #600
> Boston, MA 02114
> 617-626-1453
> ---------------------------------------------
> on 04/23/2001 10:49 AM:
>
> Hello Peter-
>
> Thank you for your personal and timely response to my question. With
> regard
> to the "off-road" experience; I, and I may be alone but think I am
> not, am
> most interested in getting to those remote areas off the beaten path
> as you
> mentioned. For me, that is the four-wheel drive experience. Could
> you, at
> your earliest convenience, provide to me a list of trails where that
> might
> be accomplished? Also, you mention that history has proven that the
> impacts
> caused by full-size, four wheel vehicle use preclude the enjoyment of
> these
> trails by the majority of users. Has there been a study with any
> published
> results which have been made available to the public, and if so,
> where might
> I obtain a copy of said report?
>
> Thank you again.
> Best Regards
>
> Brett Penkul
> Corporate Quality Assurance
> Infogrames, Inc
>
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> I'd suggest visiting some of the larger state forests in the
> Berkshires of
> western Mass. Take a look at our website at www.state.ma.us/dem which
> has
> info on all the forests & parks. Again, all Trails are closed to
> full size
> vehicles. This includes trails with wheel ruts that may not be gated.
> Maintained roads, graded gravel or paved are open, or will be once
> the snow
> melts, which in many places will be several weeks yet. A visit to any
> of
> these forests should provide plenty of evidence of what jeeps have
> done to
> trails in the last 10 years.
>
> ************************************************** ********************
> c
> Division of Forests & Parks
> 251 Causeway Street #600
> Boston, MA 02114
> 617-626-1453
> **
>
>
>
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23777 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue May 15, 2001 11:33pm
Subject: Re: offroad business association
I wonder if Ford Motor Company is a member? I hear FoMoCo has gone
green.
Linda
"David W. Smith" wrote:
>
> http://www.off-road.com/landuse/orba/orba.html
>
> Has anyone heard of the ORBA. Sounds like a good way to get more money and
> support to help fight the battle for our lands.
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23778 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue May 15, 2001 11:43pm
Subject: Re: 1" mm ???
Just an observation:
Question: Isn't a motor mount lift a good thing to do regardless of the
lift on a TJ since the engine appears to sit pretty low on the frame? I
have been on a few trail rides where stock TJs have come really close to
ripping oil pans. XJs seem to have the most clearance under the oil
pans.
Linda
jeepindog@y... wrote:
>
> Ok, let's see if I've got this right...
>
> After installing a lift on a TJ (since this is what I have, and
> what most everyone doing the 1" mm and body combo has) the driveshaft
> angle has to be addressed. You can either get a SYE and CV
> driveshaft, or raise the motor mounts and body 1", which will cause
> the t-case to point downward at the output shaft, thereby eliminating
> the high angle at the u-joint? Or am I way off base here? I am not
> particularly thrilled with the idea of t-case spacers to lower it-
> why do we lift our Jeeps in the first place? So is the 1" mm and
> body lift allowing you guys to keep the t-case in its "normal"
> position?
>
> Any info here would truly be appreciated...
>
> Lachlan 98 TJ
>
>
>
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23779 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Tue May 15, 2001 11:57pm
Subject: Re: ::OT post:: Rocklights and weirdos...
I forgot to mention that sometimes at night I'll flash my rock lights at other Jeeps. Kind of like a nightime Jeep Wave.
Scott
"Ray B." wrote:
If I happen to see you, I'll try to turn my rock lights on before you see me so you really dont feel too lonely! :-) FWIW, I have been known to drive home from a run with them on!
hunteroffroad@aol.com wrote:
OK ...Apparently Im the only one who drives with his rock lights on at night.
So .. if you see a guy in rock buggy with no windsheild drivin down the road
at night with his rock lights on, chances are its me. Please wave and I wont
feel so lonely..
I guess I am weird........... but in a freindly sorta way.
John
PS Pavement Sucks
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23780 From: David O'Boyle <davidoboyle@h...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 0:52am
Subject: Re: [az_vjcxj motor mounts
I get mine from 4wheelers supply. 15bucks... they are made by daystar..
I have had the pass side daystar longer then 2 Mopar mounts..
I just replaced the drivers side mount the other day with a Mopar(spare in
the trail box) one and I am sure it will fail agian within the next 6 to 8
months...
www.rustysoffroad.com sells poly motor mounts but I don't like using his co.
Later
Dave
Http://ArizonaXJ.rockcrawler.com
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23781 From: Rick Hall <ricknhall@h...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 4:29am
Subject: Fw: 43 Willy's Jeep
Saw this in the az.forsale newsgroup.
----- Original Message -----
From: "News" <mickej2@h...>
Newsgroups: az.forsale
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 6:02 PM
Subject: 43 Willy's Jeep
> Needs to be restored but all parts are still in tact. Drove here but been
> parked for 9 years!
>
> 2599.00
>
> 623-451-3961
> Jeff
>
>
23782 From: Daver <daver@c...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 5:10am
Subject: Re: Fw: 43 Willy's Jeep
Incidentally, I saw a Ford GPW "jeep" for sale up in Strawberry, right
off the main hiway. Didn't have a chance to get the info.
Rick Hall wrote:
>
> Saw this in the az.forsale newsgroup.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "News" <mickej2@h...>
> Newsgroups: az.forsale
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 6:02 PM
> Subject: 43 Willy's Jeep
>
> > Needs to be restored but all parts are still in tact. Drove here but been
> > parked for 9 years!
> >
> > 2599.00
> >
> > 623-451-3961
> > Jeff
23783 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 5:54am
Subject: 1" MM
I have a 98TJ also. After my lift was installed 2 years ago I was very annoyed at the spacers on the skid plate under the tcase. Doug Ballard and others recommended either an SYE/CV or MM+BL. I opted for the more economical MM+BL. I installed both (BTW, 1" BL is all you can do easily on a TJ with AC. Otherwise you need to re-drill and relocate the AC tubing.) and removed the spacers at the same time. No vibration and I gained back an inch underneath. I have since gone to a SYE and CVC in order to install the TeraLow and still no vibes. Financially it was a good way for me to go since I went almost 2 years before I could afford the TeraLow.
Jon
At 04:16 AM 5/16/2001 +0000, you wrote:
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 03:48:34 -0000
From: jeepindog@yahoo.com
Subject: 1" mm ???
Ok, let's see if I've got this right...
After installing a lift on a TJ (since this is what I have, and
what most everyone doing the 1" mm and body combo has) the driveshaft
angle has to be addressed. You can either get a SYE and CV
driveshaft, or raise the motor mounts and body 1", which will cause
the t-case to point downward at the output shaft, thereby eliminating
the high angle at the u-joint? Or am I way off base here? I am not
particularly thrilled with the idea of t-case spacers to lower it-
why do we lift our Jeeps in the first place? So is the 1" mm and
body lift allowing you guys to keep the t-case in its "normal"
position?
Any info here would truly be appreciated...
23784 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 6:10am
Subject: Re: Sycamore pix
Although I have heard a couple people claim to have made it through
there, I didn't necessarily believe them. The bolders are big and
damage is a definite possibility. And that one deep pool of water
is truly deep. If that pool were to dry out, I'd be interested in
eyeballing that route again to see if it's at all passable. The one
time we attempted it, we went from upper Sycamore towards lower.
This would have us going *down* the spot where the other VJC'er
laid his Jeep over instead of up. That might be the way to go.
But I just did my front axle swap and still need to address a couple
things before I can go wheeling.
-Roger
Jon Loveless wrote:
>
> Sounds to me like a run in the making. Anyone want to lead a run through
> squeeze rock and then Rocker Panel Pass??
>
> Jon
>
> At 01:11 PM 5/15/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>
> > I've heard of people making it through there. But the only time I've
> > tried, there was a pool of water deeper than my Jeep and it would have
> > prevented us from proceeding assuming we could get to it through the
> > bolders.
> >
> > -Roger
23785 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 6:32am
Subject: Re: 1" mm ???
I think what you said is correct. But I'll add to it...
Lowering the t-case does 2 things. First, it lowers the output
of the t-case reducing the difference in height between the t-case
output and the axle pinion. Second, it tilts the entire
motor/tranny/t-case assembly reducing the u-joint angle at the
t-case end of the driveshaft. Both of these combine together
to improve poor driveline angles.
Installing a motor mount lift only does the second item above.
That is, it tilts the motor/tranny/t-case assembly. But it does
not lower the t-case output relative to the rear axle. (Well,
technically it does a tiny bit because the pivot point is a little
bit forward of the t-case output. But it's insignificant.) So,
while the motor mount lift does help improve rear driveline angles,
it doesn't do as much as lowering the t-case. I feel most people
think of these two approaches as equal but I disagree.
Assuming I am correct, then it seems to me you would pick the
approach that meets your needs. To me, the SYE/CV approach is
the best. But it's also the most expensive (which is why people
resort to lowering their t-case). If you need a decent amount
of correction and can't afford the SYE/CV, then the t-case lowering
approach might be appropriate. If you only need a minor amount of
correction, then the motor mount lift might do it.
Depending on your situation, you might go the motor mount lift
approach and find that you still have some vibrations.
Hope this helps.
-Roger
jeepindog@y... wrote:
>
> Ok, let's see if I've got this right...
>
> After installing a lift on a TJ (since this is what I have, and
> what most everyone doing the 1" mm and body combo has) the driveshaft
> angle has to be addressed. You can either get a SYE and CV
> driveshaft, or raise the motor mounts and body 1", which will cause
> the t-case to point downward at the output shaft, thereby eliminating
> the high angle at the u-joint? Or am I way off base here? I am not
> particularly thrilled with the idea of t-case spacers to lower it-
> why do we lift our Jeeps in the first place? So is the 1" mm and
> body lift allowing you guys to keep the t-case in its "normal"
> position?
>
> Any info here would truly be appreciated...
>
> Lachlan 98 TJ
23786 From: Hal Loy <tucsonhal@e...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 7:26am
Subject: Yellow top Optima in Tucson
Does anyone know who has the best prices on Yellow top Optima's in Tucson? I'm switching out some electrical parts today and figured on doing the battery at the same time.
TIA,
Hal Loy
Tucson Roughriders
AZ Virtual Jeep Club
ASA4WDC
tucsonhal@earthlink.net
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23787 From: <dunk95@c...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 7:56am
Subject: Parts Maybe for sale?
I may be parting out my YJ the first of June. Heres what I have.
Anyone see something you want let me know. If I get around what I
want for it I will be selling it:
Dana 30 front axle shafts:
With 297x U-joints $200.00 pr.
Stock $100.00pr
Dana 35c axles $50.00pr
R&P 4.56:1 $225.00pr
Dana 30 EZ locker $100.00
15x10 5 on 4.5 wheels 4 $125.00
Thanks Ken D.
23788 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 7:56am
Subject: Re: Sycamore pix
It is definatly passible on the right where you have to climb the
"waterfall", that is the first place I went after I did my lift, and I
watched a guy take the waterfall oneway, then when he came back, he took
the pool of water. And, yes, there was body damage from the pool of
water...I was not too interested since it was the virgin run in the new
TJ...I might consider it soon...
--- Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> Although I have heard a couple people claim to have made it through
> there, I didn't necessarily believe them. The bolders are big and
> damage is a definite possibility. And that one deep pool of water
> is truly deep. If that pool were to dry out, I'd be interested in
> eyeballing that route again to see if it's at all passable. The one
> time we attempted it, we went from upper Sycamore towards lower.
> This would have us going *down* the spot where the other VJC'er
> laid his Jeep over instead of up. That might be the way to go.
>
> But I just did my front axle swap and still need to address a couple
> things before I can go wheeling.
>
> -Roger
>
> Jon Loveless wrote:
> >
> > Sounds to me like a run in the making. Anyone want to lead a run
> through
> > squeeze rock and then Rocker Panel Pass??
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > At 01:11 PM 5/15/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> > > I've heard of people making it through there. But the only time
> I've
> > > tried, there was a pool of water deeper than my Jeep and it would
> have
> > > prevented us from proceeding assuming we could get to it through the
> > > bolders.
> > >
> > > -Roger
>
>
>
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23789 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 8:05am
Subject: RE: Re: Lockright in a DANA 30
I am not sure about the YJ but the difference between a CJ and a TJ is that
the TJ uses a high pinion Dana 30 and the CJ does not. I do not know if the
that would effect the carrier or not but it does effect the Pinion gear
location in the housing.
-----Original Message-----
From: monosyllabicguy@w... [mailto:monosyllabicguy@w...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 5:38 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Lockright in a DANA 30
Blake,
you may want to call 4 wheelers or ORU to double check me, but im
pretty sure the Dana 30 carrier cases are identical for CJs, YJs, and TJs so
it should work fine. if you find out different let me know. i have 3.54
gears in my CJ now and am planning to regear soon to 4.56. this requires a
carrier change in the D30, so i helped a friend put an ARB in his YJ not too
long ago and he gave me his open carrier(4.10 gears). i was planning on
putting this carrier in my CJ. i had an EZ locker for my CJ and i already
installed it into the YJ carrier. hope this gives you some kind of answer.
Joey
--- In az_vjc@y..., blake shepherd <blake@b...> wrote:
> Does the same lockright that will fit a CJ DANA 30 also fit a TJ DANA 30?
I
> want to install another lockright into my CJ's front axle and then move it
> to my TJ's front axle later on. Is this possible??
>
> TIA
>
> Blake
> 80CJ5
> 01 TJ
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23790 From: Daver <daver@c...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 8:07am
Subject: Re: Re: Lockright in a DANA 30
"Siade, Randy" wrote:
> I am not sure about the YJ but the difference between a CJ and a TJ is that
> the TJ uses a high pinion Dana 30 and the CJ does not. I do not know if the
> that would effect the carrier or not but it does effect the Pinion gear
> location in the housing.
Nah, a YJ uses a high pinion D30, TJ's and CJ's do not.
23791 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 8:09am
Subject: RE: XJ question
I have the same problem with my CJ. I am going to go to the urethane mounts
to fix this. I currently go through two to three a year of the cheep ones.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Baney [mailto:jeepin_in_az@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:11 PM
To: Jeep List
Subject: [az_vjc] XJ question
My brohter has a 96 XJ, 6.5 inch lift, 4.0L, and is having a problem with
his motor mounts. The recent ones are only 4 months old, and they seem to
be drying out real quick and then just cracking (Driver side mostly). I
say it is the cheap mounts he gets at autozone, any one else have an
opinion? (what a funny question to ask this group if anyone has an
opinion!) :)
I told him to buy Challengers, any others out there worth it?
Thanks
=====
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2001 TJ
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23792 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 8:12am
Subject: RE: Re: Lockright in a DANA 30
Well I know one of those wrangles did.
-----Original Message-----
From: Daver [mailto:daver@c...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 8:08 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Lockright in a DANA 30
"Siade, Randy" wrote:
> I am not sure about the YJ but the difference between a CJ and a TJ is
that
> the TJ uses a high pinion Dana 30 and the CJ does not. I do not know if
the
> that would effect the carrier or not but it does effect the Pinion gear
> location in the housing.
Nah, a YJ uses a high pinion D30, TJ's and CJ's do not.
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23793 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 8:42am
Subject: LU - Last Chance(5/16) to Comment on Forest Service Land Use!!!
Please fellow members, take the time to use this tool to be heard. I know
many of you could not make it to the meeting due to family obligations, work
etc... all very valid reasons, heck I can't make every meeting either. This
is our chance to be heard, don't let this one slip by, you have no reason
not to write in. Today is the last day!!!!
To get to the letter generator go to my website, then OHV Issues on the menu
and then select the top one(Has the May 16th date on it).
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
I can not urge you enough to write in with your opinion, there are no
excuses and no reasons not to. I just competed mine(sent electronically)
and have the hard copy sitting in the outgoing mail.
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23794 From: Daver <daver@c...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 8:47am
Subject: Re: LU - Last Chance(5/16) to Comment on Forest Service Land Use!!!
"Chris R." wrote:
> Please fellow members, take the time to use this tool to be heard. I know
> many of you could not make it to the meeting due to family obligations, work
> etc... all very valid reasons, heck I can't make every meeting either. This
> is our chance to be heard, don't let this one slip by, you have no reason
> not to write in. Today is the last day!!!!
>
> To get to the letter generator go to my website, then OHV Issues on the menu
> and then select the top one(Has the May 16th date on it).
>
> http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
Another letter generator if you don't want to wade through all the ads
and cookies (no offense Chris, but good lord...)
http://ridingarizona.com/eis_letter.htm
23795 From: Mike Foster <mesa@s...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 8:48am
Subject: Re: Trail 42 Night Run 5-19
I ran it with a 2000 TJ open diffs,2"spacer lift and 31 BFG,s and did
not have to much problems.
Mike
23796 From: <mike.chatfield@p...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 9:05am
Subject: Re: Sycamore pix
Be warned!
I've only been on this trail once. Mr Ed, Dave Hickman (with Big
Iron), Ranger Dave and I all headed up this one Thursday night last
fall. Yes Big Iron made it through the squeeze, being able to lift
and lower the body definitely helped. Anyway, after the boulders, we
came to another spot, that looked like it typically had water, and
that water would have been well over a Jeep's windshield, even Joe's
so that snorkle wouldn't do no good, no how :) There was evidence of
people going around to the left (or attempting to) but we weren't
sure that they were successfull, as it was hard to tell in the dark.
About the only one of us that was really willing to try it was Ranger
Dave, and he's a little "touched" anyhow. :)
If you do go, make sure to check how deep those waterholes are before
you drive in. The one dried up hole we were looking at went from
what would be 2 ft deep to about 12 ft deep in a matter of a few
feet. I'd rate the bypass to that hole at about 4.5+.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...> wrote:
> Sounds to me like a run in the making. Anyone want to lead a run
through
> squeeze rock and then Rocker Panel Pass??
>
> Jon
23797 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 9:35am
Subject: Rocker Panel Pass, was RE: Re: Sycamore pix
A couple of years back, both Scott Kruize (I think it was Scott anyway) and
myself did rocker panel pass... at the time; both of us were open in the
front, limited slips (factory) in the back and 33 inch tires. I'll be
honest with you; it looked really tough but it wasn't that bad. There
really is only one small section of trail which is difficult (4) and the
rest is (was) a piece of cake. I have some pictures I can post of that run
a couple of years ago if anyone is interested.
Joe West
(ex low-rider flat fender TJ)
23798 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 5:39am
Subject: Re: Re: Trail 42 Night Run 5-19
I probably missed it, but what time is the run on 42 planned to start on
Saturday?
John K
Hunter
23799 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 5:43am
Subject: Re: Re: Sycamore pix
Yup, I second that. I got the same spot last year and a freind of mne drop
in the water. It has to be at least 15 ft deep. And yes it gets deep quick
fast. All though, that wast last spring.
John K
Hunter
23775 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Tue May 15, 2001 6:43pm
Subject: :::::OT Post:::::: Rock lights, Windsheilds, and Weirdos.......
Well, to the best of my knowledge and the other officers I have talked to,
haveing lights under your car is not illegal. ( I have seen alot of fire
trucks with their own version of ground lighting) They starting ticketing
poeple not because of the lights but because of the color of the light. The
only color you are allowed to see on a vehicle is red, yellow and white.
Most of the neon lighting was of green, orange, purple, pink, blue etc. A
couple of years ago, I knew some guys that beat the ticket, because they
argued that the light was red and the judge threw it out. Again it came to
color. Red, brake lights= off the hook. My other freind who had green
lights under his green honda = $250ticket. As I mentioned before, my lights
are all white, under 35 watts and are faceing foward. I should be good.
Weirdo 's adventure with the law ..The saga continues
I was once at a search in Wenden where the command post was at DPS
office. At one point, there were 9 officers looking over my rig. (Yes I was
nervous) Considering the fact that I was there with the Sheriffs Dept, and
they would be nice to me I asked them about my lights, and my lack of
windsheild. None had a problem with rock lights, all though one senoir
officer did ask about how bright they were. Once I informed him they were
only 20 watt lights and they all faced foward, he seemed happy and left me
alone. No one thought it was illegal, and no one could even think of any law
that pertained to it. (I had to explain for 10 minutes why I had lights
underneath in the first place)
Also, (back to the windsheild question) only 2 of them had a problem with
me not haveing a windsheild. They said that all factory built vehicles
require a windsheild. I said fine, I built it and was never ment to have a
windsheild. The 2 stared at me for awhile and said "OK" The others were
just stumped. I asked if they could think of any law that said "Blah blah
must have windsheild blah blah" , they just stared at me and said "No."
Does this mean its legal? I have still no idea. Will this story get you
out of a ticket .. I have no idea. I have ever read the law in the books at
the state and city levels... nope. This is just my personal adventure.
Your version may differ.
John K AKA Weirdo
Got my dogs, got my burgers got my shades, waitin for the flames LOL
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23776 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue May 15, 2001 11:18pm
Subject: Re: LU Interesting post from newsgroup: Massachusetts Dept of Environmental Manage
This is the future in Arizona if eco-terrorist groups like the Sierra
Club, SW Center for Biodiversity, Nature Conservancy, SALT, Karla, etc.
have their way. If you want to do any real 4-wheeling in the New England
area you have to be friendly with private landowners. Enough pressure
has been put on National forests to keep motorized recreation out that
they are pretty much off limits except for all weather graded roads. Oh
and they don't have State Trust Land in most of those states. Accessing
4x4s trail on Indian reservations and military reservations would take
an act of congress. We have it made out here in Az -- at least for a few
months or years. The United Four Wheel Drive Association (UFWDA) has
been fighting ridiculous rules about motorized recreation in national
forests. Some progress has been made, but it is doubtful that the
4-wheelers in this part of the country will ever have what we have here
(at least for right now). The area is too populated.
I'll bet that all the people that Brett Penkul questioned had never even
ridden in a 4x4 vehicle.
Linda
Felix and Kerry Santi wrote:
>
> Just something I read off the newsgroup, interesting that an offical
> would respond like that.
>
> **
> Hello All-
>
> Last week I was searching the web for places (State of MA) to off-
> road, and
> found the Mass DEM web site. After a bit of searching I found that
> there are
> trails open to ORVs. However, there is a thousand pound weight limit.
> So, I
> sent an e-mail to the provided address and I did get a response. One
> which,
> admittedly, I didn't like. However, I asked for clarification and
> received
> nothing but what seemed to be personal opinion and a recommendation
> to visit
> parks to inspect 4x4 damage versus any type of scientific study. I'm
> posting
> the e-mails here exactly as they were sent. I think my state rep. may
> need
> to hear from me.
>
> To: ISMTPMAOut@I...@servers["'Mass.Parks@S...'"
> <Mass.Parks@s...>]
>
> Hello-
>
> I am hoping that you might answer a question for me. I own a 2000 Jeep
> Wrangler and I have been looking for trails on which to operate. After
> reviewing the policies for the parks in MA, I find that I am unable to
> operate my vehicle due to the 1000 pound weight restriction. What is
> the
> purpose of this limit and is there any time when a responsible
> operator may
> partake in trail use, as does the rest of the general public (hikers,
> snow-mobiles, bicycle riders, dirt bikes, etc?)
>
> Thank you in advance for your time and consideration of my question.
>
> Brett Penkul
> Corporate Quality Assurance
> Infogrames, Inc
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> From: Mass Parks@Admin@DEM Boston, on 04/19/2001 4:44 PM:
>
> Peter,
> Could you respond?
>
> Thanks,
> Barb
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> From: peter brandenburg [mailto:Peter.Brandenburg@s...]
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 6:23 AM
> Subject: re: ORV Weight Limit
>
> Within Massachusetts State Forests and Parks, trails are not managed
> for
> recreational driving of full-sized four wheel drive vehicles.
> Vehicles over
>
> 1000 lbs are prohibited from Forests and Parks trail systems. There
> are many
>
> miles of country roads in the Forests and Parks open to travel by
> four-wheel
> drive, and other legally registered vehicles, which will allow you to
> get
> far
> off the beaten path and into the wilder areas of many state forests.
> However,
> these are maintained gravel and paved roads which generally do not
> offer an
> "
> off-road" experience.
>
> Most abandoned, unmaintained ways and logging roads are integral to
> the
> recreational trail and forest fire control systems of the Forests and
> Parks,
>
> which DEM manages for the widest possible range of visitors - hikers,
> bikers,
> horseback riders, and others. History has shown us that the impacts
> caused
> by full-size, four wheel vehicle use preclude the enjoyment of these
> trails
> by the majority of users, and often lead to irreparable damage to the
> natural
> resources which DEM is charged with protecting.
>
> ************************************************** ********************
> Peter Brandenburg, Trails Program Coordinator
> Massachusetts Department of Environmental Management
> Division of Forests & Parks
> 251 Causeway Street #600
> Boston, MA 02114
> 617-626-1453
> ---------------------------------------------
> on 04/23/2001 10:49 AM:
>
> Hello Peter-
>
> Thank you for your personal and timely response to my question. With
> regard
> to the "off-road" experience; I, and I may be alone but think I am
> not, am
> most interested in getting to those remote areas off the beaten path
> as you
> mentioned. For me, that is the four-wheel drive experience. Could
> you, at
> your earliest convenience, provide to me a list of trails where that
> might
> be accomplished? Also, you mention that history has proven that the
> impacts
> caused by full-size, four wheel vehicle use preclude the enjoyment of
> these
> trails by the majority of users. Has there been a study with any
> published
> results which have been made available to the public, and if so,
> where might
> I obtain a copy of said report?
>
> Thank you again.
> Best Regards
>
> Brett Penkul
> Corporate Quality Assurance
> Infogrames, Inc
>
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> I'd suggest visiting some of the larger state forests in the
> Berkshires of
> western Mass. Take a look at our website at www.state.ma.us/dem which
> has
> info on all the forests & parks. Again, all Trails are closed to
> full size
> vehicles. This includes trails with wheel ruts that may not be gated.
> Maintained roads, graded gravel or paved are open, or will be once
> the snow
> melts, which in many places will be several weeks yet. A visit to any
> of
> these forests should provide plenty of evidence of what jeeps have
> done to
> trails in the last 10 years.
>
> ************************************************** ********************
> c
> Division of Forests & Parks
> 251 Causeway Street #600
> Boston, MA 02114
> 617-626-1453
> **
>
>
>
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23777 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue May 15, 2001 11:33pm
Subject: Re: offroad business association
I wonder if Ford Motor Company is a member? I hear FoMoCo has gone
green.
Linda
"David W. Smith" wrote:
>
> http://www.off-road.com/landuse/orba/orba.html
>
> Has anyone heard of the ORBA. Sounds like a good way to get more money and
> support to help fight the battle for our lands.
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23778 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue May 15, 2001 11:43pm
Subject: Re: 1" mm ???
Just an observation:
Question: Isn't a motor mount lift a good thing to do regardless of the
lift on a TJ since the engine appears to sit pretty low on the frame? I
have been on a few trail rides where stock TJs have come really close to
ripping oil pans. XJs seem to have the most clearance under the oil
pans.
Linda
jeepindog@y... wrote:
>
> Ok, let's see if I've got this right...
>
> After installing a lift on a TJ (since this is what I have, and
> what most everyone doing the 1" mm and body combo has) the driveshaft
> angle has to be addressed. You can either get a SYE and CV
> driveshaft, or raise the motor mounts and body 1", which will cause
> the t-case to point downward at the output shaft, thereby eliminating
> the high angle at the u-joint? Or am I way off base here? I am not
> particularly thrilled with the idea of t-case spacers to lower it-
> why do we lift our Jeeps in the first place? So is the 1" mm and
> body lift allowing you guys to keep the t-case in its "normal"
> position?
>
> Any info here would truly be appreciated...
>
> Lachlan 98 TJ
>
>
>
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23779 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Tue May 15, 2001 11:57pm
Subject: Re: ::OT post:: Rocklights and weirdos...
I forgot to mention that sometimes at night I'll flash my rock lights at other Jeeps. Kind of like a nightime Jeep Wave.
Scott
"Ray B." wrote:
If I happen to see you, I'll try to turn my rock lights on before you see me so you really dont feel too lonely! :-) FWIW, I have been known to drive home from a run with them on!
hunteroffroad@aol.com wrote:
OK ...Apparently Im the only one who drives with his rock lights on at night.
So .. if you see a guy in rock buggy with no windsheild drivin down the road
at night with his rock lights on, chances are its me. Please wave and I wont
feel so lonely..
I guess I am weird........... but in a freindly sorta way.
John
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23780 From: David O'Boyle <davidoboyle@h...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 0:52am
Subject: Re: [az_vjcxj motor mounts
I get mine from 4wheelers supply. 15bucks... they are made by daystar..
I have had the pass side daystar longer then 2 Mopar mounts..
I just replaced the drivers side mount the other day with a Mopar(spare in
the trail box) one and I am sure it will fail agian within the next 6 to 8
months...
www.rustysoffroad.com sells poly motor mounts but I don't like using his co.
Later
Dave
Http://ArizonaXJ.rockcrawler.com
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23781 From: Rick Hall <ricknhall@h...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 4:29am
Subject: Fw: 43 Willy's Jeep
Saw this in the az.forsale newsgroup.
----- Original Message -----
From: "News" <mickej2@h...>
Newsgroups: az.forsale
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 6:02 PM
Subject: 43 Willy's Jeep
> Needs to be restored but all parts are still in tact. Drove here but been
> parked for 9 years!
>
> 2599.00
>
> 623-451-3961
> Jeff
>
>
23782 From: Daver <daver@c...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 5:10am
Subject: Re: Fw: 43 Willy's Jeep
Incidentally, I saw a Ford GPW "jeep" for sale up in Strawberry, right
off the main hiway. Didn't have a chance to get the info.
Rick Hall wrote:
>
> Saw this in the az.forsale newsgroup.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "News" <mickej2@h...>
> Newsgroups: az.forsale
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 6:02 PM
> Subject: 43 Willy's Jeep
>
> > Needs to be restored but all parts are still in tact. Drove here but been
> > parked for 9 years!
> >
> > 2599.00
> >
> > 623-451-3961
> > Jeff
23783 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 5:54am
Subject: 1" MM
I have a 98TJ also. After my lift was installed 2 years ago I was very annoyed at the spacers on the skid plate under the tcase. Doug Ballard and others recommended either an SYE/CV or MM+BL. I opted for the more economical MM+BL. I installed both (BTW, 1" BL is all you can do easily on a TJ with AC. Otherwise you need to re-drill and relocate the AC tubing.) and removed the spacers at the same time. No vibration and I gained back an inch underneath. I have since gone to a SYE and CVC in order to install the TeraLow and still no vibes. Financially it was a good way for me to go since I went almost 2 years before I could afford the TeraLow.
Jon
At 04:16 AM 5/16/2001 +0000, you wrote:
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 03:48:34 -0000
From: jeepindog@yahoo.com
Subject: 1" mm ???
Ok, let's see if I've got this right...
After installing a lift on a TJ (since this is what I have, and
what most everyone doing the 1" mm and body combo has) the driveshaft
angle has to be addressed. You can either get a SYE and CV
driveshaft, or raise the motor mounts and body 1", which will cause
the t-case to point downward at the output shaft, thereby eliminating
the high angle at the u-joint? Or am I way off base here? I am not
particularly thrilled with the idea of t-case spacers to lower it-
why do we lift our Jeeps in the first place? So is the 1" mm and
body lift allowing you guys to keep the t-case in its "normal"
position?
Any info here would truly be appreciated...
23784 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 6:10am
Subject: Re: Sycamore pix
Although I have heard a couple people claim to have made it through
there, I didn't necessarily believe them. The bolders are big and
damage is a definite possibility. And that one deep pool of water
is truly deep. If that pool were to dry out, I'd be interested in
eyeballing that route again to see if it's at all passable. The one
time we attempted it, we went from upper Sycamore towards lower.
This would have us going *down* the spot where the other VJC'er
laid his Jeep over instead of up. That might be the way to go.
But I just did my front axle swap and still need to address a couple
things before I can go wheeling.
-Roger
Jon Loveless wrote:
>
> Sounds to me like a run in the making. Anyone want to lead a run through
> squeeze rock and then Rocker Panel Pass??
>
> Jon
>
> At 01:11 PM 5/15/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>
> > I've heard of people making it through there. But the only time I've
> > tried, there was a pool of water deeper than my Jeep and it would have
> > prevented us from proceeding assuming we could get to it through the
> > bolders.
> >
> > -Roger
23785 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 6:32am
Subject: Re: 1" mm ???
I think what you said is correct. But I'll add to it...
Lowering the t-case does 2 things. First, it lowers the output
of the t-case reducing the difference in height between the t-case
output and the axle pinion. Second, it tilts the entire
motor/tranny/t-case assembly reducing the u-joint angle at the
t-case end of the driveshaft. Both of these combine together
to improve poor driveline angles.
Installing a motor mount lift only does the second item above.
That is, it tilts the motor/tranny/t-case assembly. But it does
not lower the t-case output relative to the rear axle. (Well,
technically it does a tiny bit because the pivot point is a little
bit forward of the t-case output. But it's insignificant.) So,
while the motor mount lift does help improve rear driveline angles,
it doesn't do as much as lowering the t-case. I feel most people
think of these two approaches as equal but I disagree.
Assuming I am correct, then it seems to me you would pick the
approach that meets your needs. To me, the SYE/CV approach is
the best. But it's also the most expensive (which is why people
resort to lowering their t-case). If you need a decent amount
of correction and can't afford the SYE/CV, then the t-case lowering
approach might be appropriate. If you only need a minor amount of
correction, then the motor mount lift might do it.
Depending on your situation, you might go the motor mount lift
approach and find that you still have some vibrations.
Hope this helps.
-Roger
jeepindog@y... wrote:
>
> Ok, let's see if I've got this right...
>
> After installing a lift on a TJ (since this is what I have, and
> what most everyone doing the 1" mm and body combo has) the driveshaft
> angle has to be addressed. You can either get a SYE and CV
> driveshaft, or raise the motor mounts and body 1", which will cause
> the t-case to point downward at the output shaft, thereby eliminating
> the high angle at the u-joint? Or am I way off base here? I am not
> particularly thrilled with the idea of t-case spacers to lower it-
> why do we lift our Jeeps in the first place? So is the 1" mm and
> body lift allowing you guys to keep the t-case in its "normal"
> position?
>
> Any info here would truly be appreciated...
>
> Lachlan 98 TJ
23786 From: Hal Loy <tucsonhal@e...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 7:26am
Subject: Yellow top Optima in Tucson
Does anyone know who has the best prices on Yellow top Optima's in Tucson? I'm switching out some electrical parts today and figured on doing the battery at the same time.
TIA,
Hal Loy
Tucson Roughriders
AZ Virtual Jeep Club
ASA4WDC
tucsonhal@earthlink.net
I Jeep, therefore I am.
23787 From: <dunk95@c...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 7:56am
Subject: Parts Maybe for sale?
I may be parting out my YJ the first of June. Heres what I have.
Anyone see something you want let me know. If I get around what I
want for it I will be selling it:
Dana 30 front axle shafts:
With 297x U-joints $200.00 pr.
Stock $100.00pr
Dana 35c axles $50.00pr
R&P 4.56:1 $225.00pr
Dana 30 EZ locker $100.00
15x10 5 on 4.5 wheels 4 $125.00
Thanks Ken D.
23788 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 7:56am
Subject: Re: Sycamore pix
It is definatly passible on the right where you have to climb the
"waterfall", that is the first place I went after I did my lift, and I
watched a guy take the waterfall oneway, then when he came back, he took
the pool of water. And, yes, there was body damage from the pool of
water...I was not too interested since it was the virgin run in the new
TJ...I might consider it soon...
--- Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> Although I have heard a couple people claim to have made it through
> there, I didn't necessarily believe them. The bolders are big and
> damage is a definite possibility. And that one deep pool of water
> is truly deep. If that pool were to dry out, I'd be interested in
> eyeballing that route again to see if it's at all passable. The one
> time we attempted it, we went from upper Sycamore towards lower.
> This would have us going *down* the spot where the other VJC'er
> laid his Jeep over instead of up. That might be the way to go.
>
> But I just did my front axle swap and still need to address a couple
> things before I can go wheeling.
>
> -Roger
>
> Jon Loveless wrote:
> >
> > Sounds to me like a run in the making. Anyone want to lead a run
> through
> > squeeze rock and then Rocker Panel Pass??
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > At 01:11 PM 5/15/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> > > I've heard of people making it through there. But the only time
> I've
> > > tried, there was a pool of water deeper than my Jeep and it would
> have
> > > prevented us from proceeding assuming we could get to it through the
> > > bolders.
> > >
> > > -Roger
>
>
>
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23789 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 8:05am
Subject: RE: Re: Lockright in a DANA 30
I am not sure about the YJ but the difference between a CJ and a TJ is that
the TJ uses a high pinion Dana 30 and the CJ does not. I do not know if the
that would effect the carrier or not but it does effect the Pinion gear
location in the housing.
-----Original Message-----
From: monosyllabicguy@w... [mailto:monosyllabicguy@w...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 5:38 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Lockright in a DANA 30
Blake,
you may want to call 4 wheelers or ORU to double check me, but im
pretty sure the Dana 30 carrier cases are identical for CJs, YJs, and TJs so
it should work fine. if you find out different let me know. i have 3.54
gears in my CJ now and am planning to regear soon to 4.56. this requires a
carrier change in the D30, so i helped a friend put an ARB in his YJ not too
long ago and he gave me his open carrier(4.10 gears). i was planning on
putting this carrier in my CJ. i had an EZ locker for my CJ and i already
installed it into the YJ carrier. hope this gives you some kind of answer.
Joey
--- In az_vjc@y..., blake shepherd <blake@b...> wrote:
> Does the same lockright that will fit a CJ DANA 30 also fit a TJ DANA 30?
I
> want to install another lockright into my CJ's front axle and then move it
> to my TJ's front axle later on. Is this possible??
>
> TIA
>
> Blake
> 80CJ5
> 01 TJ
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23790 From: Daver <daver@c...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 8:07am
Subject: Re: Re: Lockright in a DANA 30
"Siade, Randy" wrote:
> I am not sure about the YJ but the difference between a CJ and a TJ is that
> the TJ uses a high pinion Dana 30 and the CJ does not. I do not know if the
> that would effect the carrier or not but it does effect the Pinion gear
> location in the housing.
Nah, a YJ uses a high pinion D30, TJ's and CJ's do not.
23791 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 8:09am
Subject: RE: XJ question
I have the same problem with my CJ. I am going to go to the urethane mounts
to fix this. I currently go through two to three a year of the cheep ones.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Baney [mailto:jeepin_in_az@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:11 PM
To: Jeep List
Subject: [az_vjc] XJ question
My brohter has a 96 XJ, 6.5 inch lift, 4.0L, and is having a problem with
his motor mounts. The recent ones are only 4 months old, and they seem to
be drying out real quick and then just cracking (Driver side mostly). I
say it is the cheap mounts he gets at autozone, any one else have an
opinion? (what a funny question to ask this group if anyone has an
opinion!) :)
I told him to buy Challengers, any others out there worth it?
Thanks
=====
Mike Baney
2001 TJ
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23792 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 8:12am
Subject: RE: Re: Lockright in a DANA 30
Well I know one of those wrangles did.
-----Original Message-----
From: Daver [mailto:daver@c...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 8:08 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Lockright in a DANA 30
"Siade, Randy" wrote:
> I am not sure about the YJ but the difference between a CJ and a TJ is
that
> the TJ uses a high pinion Dana 30 and the CJ does not. I do not know if
the
> that would effect the carrier or not but it does effect the Pinion gear
> location in the housing.
Nah, a YJ uses a high pinion D30, TJ's and CJ's do not.
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23793 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 8:42am
Subject: LU - Last Chance(5/16) to Comment on Forest Service Land Use!!!
Please fellow members, take the time to use this tool to be heard. I know
many of you could not make it to the meeting due to family obligations, work
etc... all very valid reasons, heck I can't make every meeting either. This
is our chance to be heard, don't let this one slip by, you have no reason
not to write in. Today is the last day!!!!
To get to the letter generator go to my website, then OHV Issues on the menu
and then select the top one(Has the May 16th date on it).
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
I can not urge you enough to write in with your opinion, there are no
excuses and no reasons not to. I just competed mine(sent electronically)
and have the hard copy sitting in the outgoing mail.
Chris
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
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'97 TJ
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23794 From: Daver <daver@c...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 8:47am
Subject: Re: LU - Last Chance(5/16) to Comment on Forest Service Land Use!!!
"Chris R." wrote:
> Please fellow members, take the time to use this tool to be heard. I know
> many of you could not make it to the meeting due to family obligations, work
> etc... all very valid reasons, heck I can't make every meeting either. This
> is our chance to be heard, don't let this one slip by, you have no reason
> not to write in. Today is the last day!!!!
>
> To get to the letter generator go to my website, then OHV Issues on the menu
> and then select the top one(Has the May 16th date on it).
>
> http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
Another letter generator if you don't want to wade through all the ads
and cookies (no offense Chris, but good lord...)
http://ridingarizona.com/eis_letter.htm
23795 From: Mike Foster <mesa@s...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 8:48am
Subject: Re: Trail 42 Night Run 5-19
I ran it with a 2000 TJ open diffs,2"spacer lift and 31 BFG,s and did
not have to much problems.
Mike
23796 From: <mike.chatfield@p...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 9:05am
Subject: Re: Sycamore pix
Be warned!
I've only been on this trail once. Mr Ed, Dave Hickman (with Big
Iron), Ranger Dave and I all headed up this one Thursday night last
fall. Yes Big Iron made it through the squeeze, being able to lift
and lower the body definitely helped. Anyway, after the boulders, we
came to another spot, that looked like it typically had water, and
that water would have been well over a Jeep's windshield, even Joe's
so that snorkle wouldn't do no good, no how :) There was evidence of
people going around to the left (or attempting to) but we weren't
sure that they were successfull, as it was hard to tell in the dark.
About the only one of us that was really willing to try it was Ranger
Dave, and he's a little "touched" anyhow. :)
If you do go, make sure to check how deep those waterholes are before
you drive in. The one dried up hole we were looking at went from
what would be 2 ft deep to about 12 ft deep in a matter of a few
feet. I'd rate the bypass to that hole at about 4.5+.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...> wrote:
> Sounds to me like a run in the making. Anyone want to lead a run
through
> squeeze rock and then Rocker Panel Pass??
>
> Jon
23797 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 9:35am
Subject: Rocker Panel Pass, was RE: Re: Sycamore pix
A couple of years back, both Scott Kruize (I think it was Scott anyway) and
myself did rocker panel pass... at the time; both of us were open in the
front, limited slips (factory) in the back and 33 inch tires. I'll be
honest with you; it looked really tough but it wasn't that bad. There
really is only one small section of trail which is difficult (4) and the
rest is (was) a piece of cake. I have some pictures I can post of that run
a couple of years ago if anyone is interested.
Joe West
(ex low-rider flat fender TJ)
23798 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 5:39am
Subject: Re: Re: Trail 42 Night Run 5-19
I probably missed it, but what time is the run on 42 planned to start on
Saturday?
John K
Hunter
23799 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Wed May 16, 2001 5:43am
Subject: Re: Re: Sycamore pix
Yup, I second that. I got the same spot last year and a freind of mne drop
in the water. It has to be at least 15 ft deep. And yes it gets deep quick
fast. All though, that wast last spring.
John K
Hunter