desire but no skill...

[door3]

I've got a leaky RMS and oil pan gasket and want to replace so I can take my Jeep out with out it marking its territory everywhere. I have no idea how to do it or what is needed and would like some assistance.
I live in Ahwatukee, have the basic tools and a slopped driveway.
Thanks in advance for any help!

[door3]

Is there no one out there that is willing to help a not- so- mechanically inclined jeeper out with my dripping problem? I have access to the important things- BEER, Pizza, Burrito's, tunes and a pool (may still be too cold for that though!)
I know it's a PITA job, but I've got to start learning how to do some of this type of work myself or I'm gonna end up in the poor house. Yeah I know Just Empty Every Pocket!
Again, thanks in advance for any offers!
John

[Crawldit]

I'd help you out man, but I haven't got a clue how to do it either. Good luck

[rockwerks]

I've got a leaky RMS and oil pan gasket and want to replace so I can take my Jeep out with out it marking its territory everywhere. I have no idea how to do it or what is needed and would like some assistance.
I live in Ahwatukee, have the basic tools and a slopped driveway.
Thanks in advance for any help!

Need more info

what kinda jeep

what year

what engine

what tranny

etc

[door3]

Yeah sorry more info would help...
92 YJ 4.0L 5sp manual
The shop said it was a two piece seal????

[Griswold]

Part of the problem is that your first post on this forum was for free labor. That only works for hot chicks....... If you are one, post pics.

[door3]

You're right Gris- 1st post asking for something free probably not the best move.
I have been lurking and learning about what to look for in jeeps and what to expect. One thing I read over and over agaihn was that CJ's and YJ's primarily, tend to mark their territory..
I bought this jeep as I started a new job and have been traveling a ton since. It was an east coast jeep in pretty good shape.
Among the mods done to it by the P/O- 4.5 RE HD lift, 1.75 BL, 1 MML, York OBA, ARB F/R w/ ARB compressor, Full cage, 33" BFG MT, younger Bro's F and R (swing out tire carrier) bumpers, Borla cat back, 88k, etc.!
When it finally got out here via car carrier, it needed the fuel sending unit replaced due AZ's strict emmisions- good enough.
Here is a pic I took when my boy and I went out to Butcher Jones a couple of weeks ago.

[Allen]

These are easy repairs. A writeup on doing the rear seal can be found here rear seal replacement (http://www.bc4x4.com/faqs/yj.cfm?cat=5&faqid=40)

Oil pan is just r&r (remove - clean - new gasket - replace)

I live in Ahwatukee
If ya lived right next door to me I'd offer to drink the beer and watch to make sure ya got it right!

The worst you could do is have a leak when your done!

[jeepboy]

Id help out in a heart beat but im real busy right now fixing my jeep.

I tried taking out the oil pan on my CJ but said screw it. On mine the engine mounts barely get in the way so when you break the seal and it falls down it hits them. And due to the crankshaft, etc you cant wiggle it through without cutting the mounts. And even i wont mess with 1. brakes, 2. engine mounts.

So take a very close look to see if it is very accessable (I also had to take off the starter, but thats no big deal). If not...Pffft, its just oil :rolleyes:

Just take off, clean off the old crap, put that rtv gasket maker stuff on both sides of the gasket and bolt back on real tight

[door3]

Thanks for the suggestion Lil Red. I looked at the link. It does seem pretty straight forward, but I definately don't want to give this a go on my own. I have the feeling that I could do more harm than good!
Looks like I'm gonna have to go to the service station to get this done.

[Tom Schenk]

Just take off, clean off the old crap, put that rtv gasket maker stuff on both sides of the gasket and bolt back on real tight

Or rather, to spec.

[Tom Schenk]

Thanks for the suggestion Lil Red. I looked at the link. It does seem pretty straight forward, but I definately don't want to give this a go on my own. I have the feeling that I could do more harm than good!
Looks like I'm gonna have to go to the service station to get this done.

I can help you out if you don't mind driving to Peoria to work on it.

[azdesertrhino]

I did the RMS and oil pan on my XJ (90 4.0) never having done one before. I do mechanical work for a living (not automotive) but it really wasn't that big a deal. I think a person with average mechanical ability and some common sense could handle it. The hardest part was getting the upper section of the old seal out of the block. I'm in Tucson but willing to help if you wind up in the area!! :D

[UNSTUCK]

Hey, Door3, If you can make do for another week or so, I can help you. I did it on my old YJ. Its tons easier then when I just did it on my CJ7. It will cost you a cheap small scredriver. You put a nice round bend in it to slide the upper seal in and out. PM me and we can figure something out.

[door3]

Thanks to Josh (unstuck) for his guidance and direction! My leak is gone and I feel more confident with wrenching!

[paparonbo]

Well, how hard was it? I've heard its about the messiest job that you can do, but not terribly difficult. I'd like to know since I may have the fix in my future.

[OlneyJeeps]

I've heard that any finely tuned expert mechanigic that can replace LCA's on a midwest rustbucket in less than 18min (just enough time for 2 beers ea) would have no probs:D

Tnaks fer the help (woody has new rusty's (isnt that fitting) lca's)

[door3]

Well, how hard was it? I've heard its about the messiest job that you can do, but not terribly difficult. I'd like to know since I may have the fix in my future.

Well, first off let me say that I don't have a ton of experience wrenching. I feel good about changing tires, taking of that damn soft top and doing an oil change in a pinch.

That being said, I got to Josh's work at 8 am, had it up on the lift ( won't do anything w/ out a lift if I can help it!) and was draining the oil by 8:30.
Oil drained, replaced plug and pulled the pan. There are a ton of oil pan bolts which wore my arms down! Put the 4- 1/2" bolts off to the side so you know where they are when you need them. The oil pan came of w/ out a problem, so did the gasket. I used a liberal amount of carb cleaner on the engine once the pan was of to get rid of most of the dripping oil. The answer to your question: IT IS DIRTY! Wear some old clothes, have an old hat and safety glasses. Have lots of rags too.
The RMS replacement is not difficult, just gotta be careful of the relacement of it not to damage it or the pan gasket. I was slow through out the process, asked lots of simple questions, but we got done by noon!
Hell, I feel so confident that Josh and I talked about replacing the bearings in a few weeks. Full day job, but didn't seem too difficult... WIth Josh there of course!

[UNSTUCK]

Well, how hard was it? I've heard its about the messiest job that you can do, but not terribly difficult. I'd like to know since I may have the fix in my future.

It wasn't hard at all. The only thing that is messier then oil rain is being up to your elbows in grease. The mistery of this project came in the form of an extra rod cap nut that was sitting in the bottom of the pan. Yet all the rod caps had their two nuts. Not to mention his main bearings are not far from junk.