Lost World ?

[Crawldit]

I've seen a couple of references to this on different sites. It's supposed to be a 4.0 and located up around Pleasant somewhere. Does anybody have any information about this trail (trip report/pics)? Anyone interested in finding it :D

[Wind_Danzer]

I'd be interested in finding it. :D

[FrenchChili]

Lost World??? Any T-Rex's???

[Woody]

I know where it's at, as do a few others. In fact, the Rockrats have "adopted" that trail. Russell and I went out there last year to check on the fencing at the lower end of it (where it becomes a riparian area). It's a fun little trail (I'd rate it a 4.5 or better, on the hard lines), but a pain in the butt to get to. They don't call it Lost World for nothing. It takes a couple hours to get to the trail, with a nasty hillclimb thrown in that will turn you around unless you have 2 lockers and a lot of throttle :) When we were there last, we couldn't find any other tire tracks down in the canyon.

Maybe once the rest of the Rockrats get thier junk done (hint, hint), we could set up a run out there, with a few select attendees who would be promptly shot after completing the trail........you know, so they won't tell anyone else where it's at ;) ;)

I couldn't find any pics of it. Maybe Hackle does.

Woody

[Woody]

Stole these off another site:
http://virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4390&stc=1&d=1140574032

http://virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4391&stc=1&d=1140574032

Hope you can see the pics. I suck at the internet.

Woody

[DsrtJeeper]

Ahh; Chris Villareal's old rig. Those BTG guys have been everywhere!

[rockwerks]

Stole these off another site:
http://virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4390&stc=1&d=1140574032

http://virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4391&stc=1&d=1140574032

Hope you can see the pics. I suck at the internet.

Woody

Man been awhile......I ran that about a month before you did

http://www.fototime.com/%7B5BDC240E-A846-469D-A527-898C85532094%7D/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/%7B6D83529F-7A22-4007-8D64-889BBC783D9A%7D/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/%7B2AB02888-8B02-4E6D-AD3B-F2FE0F1322B3%7D/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/%7B183244A1-B135-4699-BD7C-35AFDF5792E5%7D/picture.JPG

ate a few tires........lots of boulder hopping........a few good waterfalls.......getting to the trail is adventurous as the trail itself

[Woody]

I still can't believe you made it through there with those puny little tires ;)

You going to BOTW??

Rick

[rockwerks]

I still can't believe you made it through there with those puny little tires ;)

You going to BOTW??

Rick

dont think so dont have a rig at this moment........I wll be converting my MJ over the next few weeks though.....when is botw this year?

[Crawldit]

I'm still on 31's. Is this going to be over my head? I'm a good driver and just did the Martinez Canyon Loop a couple weeks ago pretty easily. Great pics by the way! I'm looking to do some tougher trails with my 31's to help hone my line picking skills, so I'm really ready to rock when the bigger rubber goes on.

[rockwerks]

I'm still on 31's. Is this going to be over my head? I'm a good driver and just did the Martinez Canyon Loop a couple weeks ago pretty easily. Great pics by the way! I'm looking to do some tougher trails with my 31's to help hone my line picking skills, so I'm really ready to rock when the bigger rubber goes on.

31"s and low lift would be tough........I was able to jsut make that waterfall on 33's and 6.5".....by the way the spotter and others where placing bets iff Id go over or not on that obstacle......the last cherokee did

[xFallen]

I'm still on 31's. Is this going to be over my head?

Yes, based on the statement that this is a DD, you have no winch, and undersized tires for the terrain.

This trail is rated close to that of Anaconda. Look at your rig. Look at the rigs that run trails like that. Think about it. Your answer will, I hope, be obvious.

Unless maybe you are somehow the spawn of Barry Brummett and Tracy Jordan...I dunno...

I'm a good driver and just did the Martinez Canyon Loop a couple weeks ago pretty easily. Great pics by the way! I'm looking to do some tougher trails with my 31's to help hone my line picking skills, so I'm really ready to rock when the bigger rubber goes on.

A lot of people say Martinez Canyon when they mean Martinez Cabin -- two different trails. This may not apply to you but I have run across this a lot.

The canyon trail is considerably more trail when you take the obsatcles. Most people don't even know some of the obstacles are there.

People in bone stock S10s and FS vehicles do Box Canyon, Martinez Cabin and Martinez Canyon. In other words, I would not consider it much of a yardstick for the more remote trails.

This is old but comes up a lot too. Running a trail (being on it) versus taking all of the obstacles on a trail that give the trail its rating ("running a trail") are two rather different things. Going out on a trail and not running the obstacles kind of misses the point of running a trail, but maybe that's just me.

I presume you're prepared with winch, spare parts, tire patch kit, air and the tools and knowledge required to make trailside reparations.

I am not trying to ruin anyone's fun. Quite the contrary if you think about the suggestions. If you see any sense in the above, use it as you will. If not, disregard and let us know how it shakes out for you.


Barry

[Crawldit]

Actually Barry I thoroughly enjoy your posts. You're a straight shooter who doesn't BS. I do however know the difference between the Canyon and the Cabins. Box Canyon and the Cabins are very scenic but also very boring. We ran the loop that was past the Cabins. And I do mean that I ran the trail. With some spotting I followed my buddy on 35's up all the hard lines and I can garauntee (sp) that no rocks were stacked in the process and no by-passes were taken. I also carry a load of tools, an air compressor, multiple straps, multiple jacks and a patch kit. No I don't have a winch but the guy that I run with does. Now that I'm done defending myself, I'll take your advice and stay home. The reason why I asked in the first place is that the rigs in Woody's photos are way outta my league, but the XJ that XJNation had doesn't appear to be. The only thing that would ruin my fun is a crummy day out on the trail, so thanks again for the honest answers. I'll put this trail on my to-do list for when the rig's a little bigger.

[SavageSun4x4]

I would like to do this trail. Any plans on it being run?

[xFallen]

Actually Barry I thoroughly enjoy your posts. You're a straight shooter who doesn't BS. I do however know the difference between the Canyon and the Cabins. Box Canyon and the Cabins are very scenic but also very boring. We ran the loop that was past the Cabins. And I do mean that I ran the trail. With some spotting I followed my buddy on 35's up all the hard lines and I can garauntee (sp) that no rocks were stacked in the process and no by-passes were taken. I also carry a load of tools, an air compressor, multiple straps, multiple jacks and a patch kit. No I don't have a winch but the guy that I run with does. Now that I'm done defending myself, I'll take your advice and stay home. The reason why I asked in the first place is that the rigs in Woody's photos are way outta my league, but the XJ that XJNation had doesn't appear to be. The only thing that would ruin my fun is a crummy day out on the trail, so thanks again for the honest answers. I'll put this trail on my to-do list for when the rig's a little bigger.

I appreciate you taking my comments in the spirit intended. It sounds like you're on your way in the preparedness area -- good show. Good stuff on following the bigger shod rigs around too.

I am all for testing the limits of ones rig and personal skills and know sometimes that means doing what others say not to do or can't be done. Been there myself, and some days still am there. :rolleyes:

No need for more I guess, just to say that Lost World is along the lines of OD, BM and Anaconda and quite a step up from some of the more common trails that have bypasses because they are tighter with fewer options, and usually only one option.

By the way, don't stay home -- go wheelin'!


Barry

[mingoglia]

People in bone stock S10s and FS vehicles do Box Canyon, Martinez Cabin and Martinez Canyon. In other words, I would not consider it much of a yardstick for the more remote trails.
Barry

I actually went through Box Canyon once with a guy with a stock brand new T100 that still had the temporary tag. He went through without damage. He ripped off his front bumper and bashed in his rear corner real bad through Lower Woodpecker but made it without a strap (with a bit of stacking AND UNSTACKING). ;) It was painful, but made it. I unfortunately was in an H2 back when they first came out.

Anyway, carry on now...

Mike

[Wildcat455]

Very nice, Barry! You exercised restraint for a Record ELEVEN POSTS!!

It's progress! It's progress!

Give it up for Barry everyone! <APPLAUSE>

I could almost visualize you sitting on your hands, with a wide eyed stare at the computer monitor, biting your lower lip, beads of perspiration forming on your brow as you resist the urge to click the reply button!! :eek:

So Barry, let's go run that trail... :D

[jason]

Lower Woodpecker but made it without a strap (with a bit of stacking AND UNSTACKING). ;)
Anyway, carry on now...

Mike



ummm.... then he didnt really make it then. did he?

[mingoglia]

No, I suppose. not. :)

[xFallen]

Very nice, Barry! You exercised restraint for a Record ELEVEN POSTS!!

It's progress! It's progress!

Give it up for Barry everyone! <APPLAUSE>

I could almost visualize you sitting on your hands, with a wide eyed stare at the computer monitor, biting your lower lip, beads of perspiration forming on your brow as you resist the urge to click the reply button!! :eek:

So Barry, let's go run that trail... :D


Hehe...okay, okay...sheesh. Do you know how many edits that required?

Mr. Mattison said he APPRECIATED my posts. So there ya go. I didn't even PAY him as far as you're aware. :D

Lost World is an adventure just getting to the trail head.

Next you'll have Nick whining about multisyllabic words... :rolleyes:


Barry

[Wildcat455]

Hehe...okay, okay...sheesh. Do you know how many edits that required?

Mr. Mattison said he APPRECIATED my posts. So there ya go. I didn't even PAY him as far as you're aware. :D

Lost World is an adventure just getting to the trail head.

Next you'll have Nick whining about multisyllabic words... :rolleyes:


Barry

Just a friendly poke in the ribs...
So, I still say we run it...:cool:

[tyota]

Hehe...okay, okay...sheesh. Do you know how many edits that required?

Mr. Mattison said he APPRECIATED my posts. So there ya go. I didn't even PAY him as far as you're aware. :D

Lost World is an adventure just getting to the trail head.

Next you'll have Nick whining about multisyllabic words... :rolleyes:


Barry






big words again:eek:
whats multisyllabic words:confused: :cool:

[twstdtj]

Very nice, Barry! You exercised restraint for a Record ELEVEN POSTS!!

It's progress! It's progress!

Give it up for Barry everyone! <APPLAUSE>

I could almost visualize you sitting on your hands, with a wide eyed stare at the computer monitor, biting your lower lip, beads of perspiration forming on your brow as you resist the urge to click the reply button!! :eek:

So Barry, let's go run that trail... :D

Can I go too!! Huh Huh can I My rig needs a shakedown run after the stretch!!!

[rockwerks]

Yep whe I went we had to winch 3 rigs up and over a rock outcropping on the in about 2 miles from the start of the trail...........a very steep loose rock climb with and 18" eldge in the middle of it...........pucker time more than anything on the trail!

[xFallen]

Can I go too!! Huh Huh can I My rig needs a shakedown run after the stretch!!!

Is that heep trailready yet? Pix! Pix I say! :cool:


Barry

[xFallen]

Yep whe I went we had to winch 3 rigs up and over a rock outcropping on the in about 2 miles from the start of the trail...........a very steep loose rock climb with and 18" eldge in the middle of it...........pucker time more than anything on the trail!

Did you get pictures of that one? That's the climb I was tlaking about just to get in.

Kind of like Collateral Damage. You get through the last obstacle and it is ho-hum little stuff through the narrow canyon/wash until you get to the end and have to climb up and out. Not too big of a deal really but not exactly nothing either. It is fairly steep and can be very loose. Lots of rubber on the wall from people climbing out (probably BTG guys impressing the girlz :rolleyes: :eek: :D). A friend with us who had not done CD before said "That's the coolest exit to a trail I have seen in a long time.".


Barry

[rockwerks]

Did you get pictures of that one? That's the climb I was tlaking about just to get in.

Kind of like Collateral Damage. You get through the last obstacle and it is ho-hum little stuff through the narrow canyon/wash until you get to the end and have to climb up and out. Not too big of a deal really but not exactly nothing either. It is fairly steep and can be very loose. Lots of rubber on the wall from people climbing out (probably BTG guys impressing the girlz :rolleyes: :eek: :D). A friend with us who had not done CD before said "That's the coolest exit to a trail I have seen in a long time.".


Barry

sorry no pictures but I do think I saved the seat cushion I had to pull outa my hiney with a crow bar........:eek:

the coolest exit to a trail is upper Helldorado in Moab.......winch only straight up about 15'.......you are literally hanging fron the winch line.....:eek:

[xFallen]

sorry no pictures but I do think I saved the seat cushion I had to pull outa my hiney with a crow bar........:eek:

the coolest exit to a trail is upper Helldorado in Moab.......winch only straight up about 15'.......you are literally hanging fron the winch line.....:eek:

That sounds like Asylum here in Az (White Tanks)...just seen pictures...yowsa.


Barry

[xFallen]

Just a friendly poke in the ribs...
So, I still say we run it...:cool:

Just so long as...oh nevermind...:D


Barry

[tyota]

enough talk, lets go!!
I'm down for alittle wheeling!
I'm crazy! I don't know anyone that wheels as hard as I do:D:D

totally unbeweavable I know, but I'll still go and rock my junk, just make sure I'm in the back so I don't hold ya'll up when I crack my junk in 2

[Wildcat455]

Can I go too!! Huh Huh can I My rig needs a shakedown run after the stretch!!!

Your shakedown cruise is in your PM box...

[Wildcat455]

enough talk, lets go!!
I'm down for alittle wheeling!
I'm crazy! I don't know anyone that wheels as hard as I do:D:D

totally unbeweavable I know, but I'll still go and rock my junk, just make sure I'm in the back so I don't hold ya'll up when I crack my junk in 2

Pfft, Travis wheels harder than you... :rolleyes:

[Wildcat455]

big words again:eek:
whats multisyllabic words:confused: :cool:

Words with multiple syllables. Like "Nick" has one syllable, confused has 2...
con' fused

Multisyllabic has 5 mul ti syll a bic

HEY! Wake up! I'm trying to learn you something! :D

[Jeeppeepin]

Pfft, Travis wheels harder than you... :rolleyes:

Ouch!!:eek: now that's Harsh, man!:D
Don't get all crazy on us....:p

[Wildcat455]

Ouch!!:eek: now that's Harsh, man!:D
Don't get all crazy on us....:p

Yes, Ma'am...:o

[Yogi]

sorry no pictures but I do think I saved the seat cushion I had to pull outa my hiney with a crow bar........:eek:

the coolest exit to a trail is upper Helldorado in Moab.......winch only straight up about 15'.......you are literally hanging fron the winch line.....:eek:

Pffft. There is no winch needed on Upper Helldorado. Just drive up it, its not that bad, see pic:D

Oh, and this is Scott, lurking under my Dads username:p

On to the point, lost world is fun, but not all that hard. As long as your locked and have decent driving skills it wont be too bad, Ive seen it done on 31's:eek: I dont reccommend this practice however, as that is usually what leads to rockstacking, etc. etc...

[Wildcat455]

Pffft. There is no winch needed on Upper Helldorado. Just drive up it, its not that bad, see pic:D

Oh, and this is Scott, lurking under my Dads username:p

On to the point, lost world is fun, but not all that hard. As long as your locked and have decent driving skills it wont be too bad, Ive seen it done on 31's:eek: I dont reccommend this practice however, as that is usually what leads to rockstacking, etc. etc...

Somehow, your Dad's username adds credibility to your post, Scott! :D

How you been?

[Yogi]

haha, I've been good, how bout you? Ive been wondering where you've been... guess I figured that out:p Does barry not call you anymore or are you to skeered to wheel with us anymore:confused: :D

[xFallen]

Pffft. There is no winch needed on Upper Helldorado. Just drive up it, its not that bad, see pic:D

Oh, and this is Scott, lurking under my Dads username:p

On to the point, lost world is fun, but not all that hard. As long as your locked and have decent driving skills it wont be too bad, Ive seen it done on 31's:eek: I dont reccommend this practice however, as that is usually what leads to rockstacking, etc. etc...

Like we were talking earlier...you can take anythig pretty much anywhere...but do you want to own the vehicle when you're done? If the answer is yes, you're good to go. :D

Can I borrow your rig please? I need to run Matrix (yes, Nick, for you, in reverse). :D :D :D


Barry

[rockwerks]

Pffft. There is no winch needed on Upper Helldorado. Just drive up it, its not that bad, see pic:D

.

who you trying to kid that aint the end of upper helldorado.....not even close

http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4445&d=1140667743

upper is a 180* box canyon and the short wall is 15'......and the others over 20'...hell that lookd like a small waterfall about half way through

[xFallen]

Pffft. There is no winch needed on Upper Helldorado. Just drive up it, its not that bad, see pic


who you trying to kid that aint the end of upper helldorado.....not even close

upper is a 180* box canyon and the short wall is 15'......and the others over 20'...hell that lookd like a small waterfall about half way through

Alright boys...haul out the tape measure and get it over with already... :rolleyes:

Scott, you fixed that smoke factory you call a motor yet? :D


Barry

[Woody]

who you trying to kid that aint the end of upper helldorado.....not even close

http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4445&d=1140667743

upper is a 180* box canyon and the short wall is 15'......and the others over 20'...hell that lookd like a small waterfall about half way through

Brian.......you ain't even close. That is definetely the exit to Upper Helldorado. I think Scotts 180" wheelbase just makes it look smaller than it really is ;)

Scott.....I checked out your pics/vids from your run last weekend. You guys are running some sick trails for sure. Good job walking up that one waterfall in the vid. You're rig always seems to make em look easy.

Woody

Edit: Hope to see you and the others from BTG at the FJ land use meeting this saturday.

[rockwerks]

Brian.......you ain't even close. That is definetely the exit to Upper Helldorado. I think Scotts 180" wheelbase just makes it look smaller than it really is ;)




looked at my pics...........my bad..........I guess its been filled in on to bottom a bunchh..........

[Wildcat455]

haha, I've been good, how bout you? Ive been wondering where you've been... guess I figured that out:p Does barry not call you anymore or are you to skeered to wheel with us anymore:confused: :D

I'm getting by.
Heinz57 still calls me.
I have No desire to wheel with you guys, (Nothing personal though) My sheeiit breaks enough on what I have been doing, and it's getting a little old paying for it. In the last year, I've been through a TH-400, 4 starters, an Alternator, a welder, overheating problems, coilover shock, and almost my wife...that's just the expensive stuff... When I get it all back under control, you'll see more of me. Until then, say Hi to everyone for me.

[Craig]

I'm getting by.
Heinz57 still calls me his biatch

Fixed it!:D :D

[SavageSun4x4]

Brian.......you ain't even close. That is definetely the exit to Upper Helldorado. I think Scotts 180" wheelbase just makes it look smaller than it really is ;)

Scott.....I checked out your pics/vids from your run last weekend. You guys are running some sick trails for sure. Good job walking up that one waterfall in the vid. You're rig always seems to make em look easy.

Woody

Edit: Hope to see you and the others from BTG at the FJ land use meeting this saturday.
Nope! not the exit in UH in Moab, maybe somewhere else, but not there...

[Yogi]

Brian.......you ain't even close. That is definetely the exit to Upper Helldorado. I think Scotts 180" wheelbase just makes it look smaller than it really is ;)

Scott.....I checked out your pics/vids from your run last weekend. You guys are running some sick trails for sure. Good job walking up that one waterfall in the vid. You're rig always seems to make em look easy.

Woody

Edit: Hope to see you and the others from BTG at the FJ land use meeting this saturday.

Not always, lol, last time I tried that fall I got denied big time, busted a link, airshock, driveshaft, motor mount and radiator:rolleyes: I think I figured out the line now though.

As for upper helldorado, Its still a big fall, most get denied... you just gotta commit and right when you think you should let out, you need to stay in it:D And its not quite 180"... maybe using your "special" tape measure woody:eek:

Sorry, I cant make the meeting as my cousin is getting married that afternoon, otherwise Id be there. Not sure if anyone else will make it or not, I think a couple may be helping with the terminator cherokee removal?

Barry, sure you can borrow my rig... If I can borrow yours and take it through twisted:eek: I promise Ill treat it like it's my own.lol

And Bill, whenever you're ready man, we could always use another capable rig out there.

-Scott

[Yogi]

Nope! not the exit in UH in Moab, maybe somewhere else, but not there...

Yes, it is. the UH in Moab... I dont know of any other UH. Maybe you guys are thinking of Upper Proving Grounds, which is bigger, and I rolled over backwards trying that when it was still open two years ago.

-scott

[xFallen]

Yes, it is. the UH in Moab... I dont know of any other UH. Maybe you guys are thinking of Upper Proving Grounds, which is bigger, and I rolled over backwards trying that when it was still open two years ago.

-scott

Lower Helldorado is still closed right?

[xFallen]

Barry, sure you can borrow my rig... If I can borrow yours and take it through twisted:eek: I promise Ill treat it like it's my own.lol


Uhhh...hrmm...that's more like a threat than a promise... :eek: :D

My junk will get run through Twisted eventually. A few more mods first... :rolleyes:



And Bill, whenever you're ready man, we could always use another capable rig out there.

-Scott

Ooohhh...I so want to be mean...sitting on my hands Bill.... ;) :D :rolleyes:


Barry

[Yogi]

Lower Helldorado is still closed right?

As far as I know yes. but upper helldo is on Area BFE(private land, owned partly by BFE films), and now there is quite a few trails/ stuff to play on in that area, just make sure you put some $$$ in the donation box. That land wasn't cheap.

[Heinz57]

Fixed it!:D :D

Now that's funny right there:D

[Heinz57]

sorry no pictures but I do think I saved the seat cushion I had to pull outa my hiney with a crow bar........:eek:

the coolest exit to a trail is upper Helldorado in Moab.......winch only straight up about 15'.......you are literally hanging fron the winch line.....:eek:

Nope, Asylum by far the coolest exit of any trail period, not that Helldorado is bad it just doesn't hold a candle to the fugly fall followed by a 55' vertical with a long loose dirt up hill and an ugly loose dirt down hill for about 3/4 of a mile.

[Heinz57]

Fixed it!:D :D
now that's funny right there:D

[SavageSun4x4]

Yes, it is. the UH in Moab... I dont know of any other UH. Maybe you guys are thinking of Upper Proving Grounds, which is bigger, and I rolled over backwards trying that when it was still open two years ago.

-scott
Sorry, I don't think so, granted, its been a while since I have been on that trail, but...I will be there in Sept. If your right, I'll say so in my trip report.

[SavageSun4x4]

Yes, it is. the UH in Moab... I dont know of any other UH. Maybe you guys are thinking of Upper Proving Grounds, which is bigger, and I rolled over backwards trying that when it was still open two years ago.

-scott
Sorry, I don't think so, granted, its been a while since I have been on that trail, but...I will be there in Sept. If your right, I'll say so in my trip report.

[Wildcat455]

And Bill, whenever you're ready man, we could always use another capable rig out there.

-Scott

Thanks Scott.

[Yogi]

Sorry, I don't think so, granted, its been a while since I have been on that trail, but...I will be there in Sept. If your right, I'll say so in my trip report.
Well I was there last march, and the year before that and will be there again in April... Pretty sure I know what Im talking about:rolleyes:

[Wildcat455]

Nope, Asylum by far the coolest exit of any trail period, not that Helldorado is bad it just doesn't hold a candle to the fugly fall followed by a 55' vertical with a long loose dirt up hill and an ugly loose dirt down hill for about 3/4 of a mile.

I agree with Heinz57...:eek:

How long has it been since you've run it Barry? Can we still get on it?

[westy]

here is a pic of Asylum I found awhile back...pretty sure that trail is closed off.

http://members.cox.net/brian.westfall/mtnclimb4runner.jpg

[xFallen]

More Asylum:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54029

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4341582&postcount=26

Yeah...I can do that on 35s and open. :D :D :D :rolleyes:

NOT!

[Heinz57]

That sounds like Asylum here in Az (White Tanks)...just seen pictures...yowsa.

Barry

Hanging on a fraid rope is the most mentally challenging thing I have done on any trail. It's gonna hurt real bad if you fall.

[rockwerks]

All know is that the out to UH is definately alot smaller than when I spotted a Tj through there 4 years ago........Im betting there is atleast 5 feet of rocks and sand piled into the bottom now.

[xFallen]

Hanging on a fraid rope is the mentally challenging thing I have done on any trail. It's gonna hurt real bad if you fall.

Hell...just winching up the weenie little fall on OD makes me think of stuff like that...can only imagine the Asylum climb. :eek: Reminds me...need to stretch heep. :D

I don't want to stir the pot (no, really I don't :rolleyes: ) but I saw the typical smack talking BS on PB one day about a trail worse than Asylum. Is that Hellraiser or Boom Town maybe? You-know-who was saying how they ran it solo. :D :rolleyes: Maybe they did...I don't care one way or the other, and I digress...

I have seen pictures of Hellraiser and that one looks like a real kick. I have not knowingly seen pictures of Boom Town.


Barry

PS. I just re-read this and realize it sounds like I am talking badly about a person. That was not my intent. I am leaving the message in its original form.

[Heinz57]

Have not been on either. I know who found and ran boomtown and if he says it is harder he is correct. After running the some of the newer trails lately I would say Asylum holds its own with the amount of wheeling but there are some trails with fewer but more difficult absticals. At the end of the day as you will agree it is about going out and having a good time. This thread is about ability to run a particular trail and as you and others have stated you need to make sure your rig is capable and most importantly your ability to drive a rig is up to the challenge. If you don't meet those requirements you will most likely not have a good time.

Barry

[Heinz57]

I agree with Heinz57...:eek:

How long has it been since you've run it Barry? Can we still get on it?

Ran it in October I think, been wheeling too much:confused: I plan on getting back to it asap, probably between TDS and Moab sometime. I know we can get back to that area just not sure about getting to that trail. You up for it?:D

[xFallen]

Have not been on either. I know who found and ran boomtown and if he says it is harder he is correct. After running the some of the newer trails lately I would say Asylum holds its own with the amount of wheeling but there are some trails with fewer but more difficult absticals. At the end of the day as you will agree it is about going out and having a good time. This thread is about ability to run a particular trail and as you and others have stated you need to make sure your rig is capable and most importantly your ability to drive a rig is up to the challenge. If you don't meet those requirements you will most likely not have a good time.

Barry

Agreed. It is all about fun for whatever you are driving and whatever trail you choose to run.


Barry

[SavageSun4x4]

Well I was there last march, and the year before that and will be there again in April... Pretty sure I know what Im talking about:rolleyes:
It very well may be. The folks here are saying it has about 5' of sand and rocks at the bottom of the exit, that was not there a while back. Certainly if that is the case, your dead on and I am dead wrong.

Guess that is what rock stacking will do for you...

[rockwerks]

I dont know if it was stacked or BLM had a hand in it.......they have recently modified several trails from that I have rread

[Wildcat455]

Ran it in October I think, been wheeling too much:confused: I plan on getting back to it asap, probably between TDS and Moab sometime. I know we can get back to that area just not sure about getting to that trail. You up for it?:D

Most definitely, but only if you go... evidently, I'm your Biatch! :rolleyes:

[Wildcat455]

I dont know if it was stacked or BLM had a hand in it.......they have recently modified several trails from that I have rread

Of course, we seem to be ruling out runoff filling it up... :D

[Heinz57]

Most definitely, but only if you go... evidently, I'm your Biatch! :rolleyes:
Well, when put like that we should make a date:D

[Wildcat455]

Well, when put like that we should make a date:D

Simmer down, Buttercup! :D

I said "Evidently", and that's ONLY according to the VERY unreliable and sometimes Inflammatory source of Craig Micek!

Truth be told (And you know it's the truth, because I said it...) he's just jealous because he wants to be your Biatch! (Actually, that's a half truth, he wants to be ANYBODY"S Biatch!) :D

[Craig]

I am the club biatch! I think that it is in the bylaws. Something about vp exists only in the shadow of exhualted ruler and for his amusement? Good thing we don't follow them to closely eh... ;) :D

Now if I only had something that ran worth a damn you might invite me on your run. :D

[Yogi]

It very well may be. The folks here are saying it has about 5' of sand and rocks at the bottom of the exit, that was not there a while back. Certainly if that is the case, your dead on and I am dead wrong.

Guess that is what rock stacking will do for you...

I dunno, looks pretty much the same as in '02, if not even a little less filled in as seen in these pics
I dunno what it looked like before then, but this is definitely upper helldorado.

And yes, Asylum definitely gets the pucker factor going. Especially being first having to rely on a sole winch... I dont think Ill be doing that again soon, at least not until I get some new winchrope:p

see ya on the trails,
Scott