FT job with benefits needed

[DsrtJeeper]

As some of you know; I was put out of commission in '92. (19 year old kid pulled out in front of my motorcycle.) The disability company I had through work placed me on SSDI with no hope of full recovery. Well pooh on them! I want back to work and I'm sick of sitting home! :rolleyes: I've tried vocational rehabilitation programs and they just don't work for me. If anyone knows of any semi sedintary jobs and/or employers willing to train; please let me know. Here's the hitch... I prefer to work weekdays if at all possible and my background in dairy farming doesn't seem to qualify me for much out here. ;)

I'd like to fall into a job that offers career potential unlike the security jobs and call centers that vocational rehab keeps trying to place me in. I'm a people person and I truley miss the socializing aspect of a job. I'm located on the west side; so I'd say that drives to Mesa or Chandler are out of the question.

Thanks for reading. :)

Eric

[SavageSun4x4]

Don't you run into some issues drawing SSDI and going back to work???

[DsrtJeeper]

Don't you run into some issues drawing SSDI and going back to work???

Yes; I'm actually one of the few who have been trying to get off of SSDI. It seems many employers are scared to touch my case and my job search has been depressing to say the least. Many employers feel that I'm a liability due to all the previous injuries. Isn't that what health insurance is for? :confused: I've literally had job interviews where the potential employer laughed in my face after reading my application as if to say "you expect me to hire you with these past injuries?" Very humiliating to say the least.

[xFallen]

Yes; I'm actually one of the few who have been trying to get off of SSDI. It seems many employers are scared to touch my case and my job search has been depressing to say the least. Many employers feel that I'm a liability due to all the previous injuries. Isn't that what health insurance is for? :confused: I've literally had job interviews where the potential employer laughed in my face after reading my application as if to say "you expect me to hire you with these past injuries?" Very humiliating to say the least.

I am curious about the past injuries thing. Why are you having to disclose the? Do you mean on the health insurance application?

When I first saw your message, the brat in me wanted to give you a hard time but I thought better of it because, well, the bratty things I say don't always translate well into print. Also, as someone who interviews and hires periodically, I know there are certain things I simply cannot ask. If you cruise in visibly disabled I still can't ask about it. You do not appear at first glance to be disabled in any way and so I am curious why this comes up. You can choose not to answer of course and I will understand, but frankly, it isn't any of their business.

As a small company (less then 50 employees I think) they are not bound by certain laws that govern larger companies. Although many American companies do openly discriminate, they cannot do so legally nomatter their size or they can be successfully sued. Plenty of case law on the books there.

As to group insurance, a company, even a small one, cannot ask for medical records in advance to decide if you should be hired or not. Legally, a group insurer must accept the entire group, or none at all.

I am just curious why you are getting so much flack. I may be not understanding something, which is fine, no need to divulge anyting to the world here. My concern would be you getting the run-around unfairly.


Barry

[paparonbo]

I'm also curious about now wanting to work at a call center. I work for Discover card in the North Valley and have moved up the ladder quite a bit. Also, x2 on Barry's comment on large companies not being able to discriminate. I know that the company I work for works very hard not to be fair and make accomodations. Some of the jobs in call centers suck, but the companies are ok to work for.

Just my 2cents

[DsrtJeeper]

I am curious about the past injuries thing. Why are you having to disclose the? Do you mean on the health insurance application?

When I first saw your message, the brat in me wanted to give you a hard time but I thought better of it because, well, the bratty things I say don't always translate well into print. Also, as someone who interviews and hires periodically, I know there are certain things I simply cannot ask. If you cruise in visibly disabled I still can't ask about it. You do not appear at first glance to be disabled in any way and so I am curious why this comes up. You can choose not to answer of course and I will understand, but frankly, it isn't any of their business.

As a small company (less then 50 employees I think) they are not bound by certain laws that govern larger companies. Although many American companies do openly discriminate, they cannot do so legally nomatter their size or they can be successfully sued. Plenty of case law on the books there.

As to group insurance, a company, even a small one, cannot ask for medical records in advance to decide if you should be hired or not. Legally, a group insurer must accept the entire group, or none at all.

I am just curious why you are getting so much flack. I may be not understanding something, which is fine, no need to divulge anyting to the world here. My concern would be you getting the run-around unfairly.


Barry

Barry; Thanks for your concern and I'll try to explain.

When working with the federally funded vocational rehab program; their are many guidelines and rules for me and my counselor to follow. It's very obvious to an employer that I'm on the disabled list when they are contacted by the VR counselor. Also; when I go in for an interview and the employer ask why I haven't worked since '92; I don't chose to lie.

It's true that I do not appear handicapped in any way. This is another stigma that often hurts me in the job field. Most people think of a handicapped person as someone who is blind, mamed, in a wheelchair with paralysis, etc... I actually lucked out and lived after being told that I had 48 hrs. to live. Then I was told that I'd never walk again, etc...

Actually; I suffer long term consequences from two bad accidents. Both wrists were shattered and are pinned and plated together. My pelvis was broke in 3 places and split apart 12". That is now pinned, screwed and plated together. Both lower tib/fib on right leg were broke severely resulting in multiple compound fractures. My right leg has a rod running from the knee to the ankle. Both knees were ruined as well. I have no PCL in my right knee and both knees are bone on bone. (Lack of cartilage). My right hand was broke and is now held together with screws. I suffer from short term memory loss even though I was wearing a helmet. It mostly effects me during speech and I ocassionaly even studder or mix two words. In a seperate accident; I then broke 8 ribs, punctured my right lung and dislocated my right shoulder so severely that I almost lost my arm.

As you can imagine; I'm left with limited physical endurance, pain, memory loss and the emotional effects of such trauma. It's literally taken me this long to feel well enough to again feel I can contribute something to the work force. I'm not looking for pity here; but I am needing my life back. Part of life is going to work daily, feeling rewarded about doing something constructive and having social contact on a daily basis once again.

Just for the record; I have been back to work twice and both times tried to defy the doctors advice. Both times I ended up giving notice and going in for further surgery. This is why I posted wanting a somewhat sedintary job.

Ask away as I don't mind talking about it. :)

[DsrtJeeper]

I'm also curious about now wanting to work at a call center. I work for Discover card in the North Valley and have moved up the ladder quite a bit. Also, x2 on Barry's comment on large companies not being able to discriminate. I know that the company I work for works very hard not to be fair and make accomodations. Some of the jobs in call centers suck, but the companies are ok to work for.

Just my 2cents

Sorry; didn't mean to single out a whole industry. I live about 5 minutes from your work place. I applied there for a maintenance position some years back and was turned down due to a lack of computer experience. :rolleyes: When the new guy they hired failed in his duties to actually perform maintenance and not be a computer specialist; they called me back wanting me to work there. It just struck me wrong and I declined the second interview.

[xFallen]

Barry; Thanks for your concern and I'll try to explain.

When working with the federally funded vocational rehab program; their are many guidelines and rules for me and my counselor to follow. It's very obvious to an employer that I'm on the disabled list when they are contacted by the VR counselor. Also; when I go in for an interview and the employer ask why I haven't worked since '92; I don't chose to lie.

It's true that I do not appear handicapped in any way. This is another stigma that often hurts me in the job field. Most people think of a handicapped person as someone who is blind, mamed, in a wheelchair with paralysis, etc... I actually lucked out and lived after being told that I had 48 hrs. to live. Then I was told that I'd never walk again, etc...

Actually; I suffer long term consequences from two bad accidents. Both wrists were shattered and are pinned and plated together. My pelvis was broke in 3 places and split apart 12". That is now pinned, screwed and plated together. Both lower tib/fib on right leg were broke severely resulting in multiple compound fractures. My right leg has a rod running from the knee to the ankle. Both knees were ruined as well. I have no PCL in my right knee and both knees are bone on bone. (Lack of cartilage). My right hand was broke and is now held together with screws. I suffer from short term memory loss even though I was wearing a helmet. It mostly effects me during speech and I ocassionaly even studder or mix two words. In a seperate accident; I then broke 8 ribs, punctured my right lung and dislocated my right shoulder so severely that I almost lost my arm.

As you can imagine; I'm left with limited physical endurance, pain, memory loss and the emotional effects of such trauma. It's literally taken me this long to feel well enough to again feel I can contribute something to the work force. I'm not looking for pity here; but I am needing my life back. Part of life is going to work daily, feeling rewarded about doing something constructive and having social contact on a daily basis once again.

Just for the record; I have been back to work twice and both times tried to defy the doctors advice. Both times I ended up giving notice and going in for further surgery. This is why I posted wanting a somewhat sedintary job.

Ask away as I don't mind talking about it. :)

Dude. Take the rest of your life off. You've been through enough. :D

I bet weather change is a biatch, huh?

I can understand wanting to work again too, by the way, whatever the reasons. Anyway, I think I get it a bit better now.

Explaining the gap in the work history is a biggie and I agree it is important to be truthful.

I still think any employer stupid enough to openly decline employment on medical grounds is just asking to get sued. I am no lawyer but am convinced a complaint would be favored in the courts. Gettting such a judgement satisifed may be another story for a small company. Not that sane people want to litigate anyway. If it isn't illegal, it is most certainly poor form and who'd want to work for such a place anyway.

New career...hrmm..well, we already know you're a breast man (from the previous dairy farm years)...how can that be put to use? You should...wait for it...milk it for all it's worth.


Barry

P.S. Yes, it would appear that I apparently implied that some lawyers and litigants are insane. :D :rolleyes: Perhaps there are better words to use but these are more amusing.

[DsrtJeeper]

Dude. Take the rest of your life off. You've been through enough. :D

I bet weather change is a biatch, huh?

I can understand wanting to work again too, by the way, whatever the reasons. Anyway, I think I get it a bit better now.

Explaining the gap in the work history is a biggie and I agree it is important to be truthful.

I still think any employer stupid enough to openly decline employment on medical grounds is just asking to get sued. I am no lawyer but am convinced a complaint would be favored in the courts. Gettting such a judgement satisifed may be another story for a small company. Not that sane people want to litigate anyway. If it isn't illegal, it is most certainly poor form and who'd want to work for such a place anyway.

New career...hrmm..well, we already know you're a breast man (from the previous dairy farm years)...how can that be put to use? You should...wait for it...milk it for all it's worth.


Barry

P.S. Yes, it would appear that I apparently implied that some lawyers and litigants are insane. :D :rolleyes: Perhaps there are better words to use but these are more amusing.

Yeah; I've never proclaimed to be a whiz at putting thoughts to words, but I think you get the jist. It's way too easy for employers to overlook prospects like myself and shoot for the fresh college student. People like myself who do not appear disabled often fall through the cracks in the system. If I were blind or partially paralyzed; I would have a job immediately. Here's a great example:

The federally funded vocational rehab program would not let me pursue a career in computer graphics because my original wrist surgeon refused to write a letter stating that I wouldn't suffer from carpal tunnel due to typing/using a mouse all day. What doctor is going to write and sign a letter like that? :rolleyes: Yet, knowing very well that my knees are in bad shape; the rehab program insisted I take a night security job where I would be walking most of the evening. :confused:

[xFallen]

Yeah; I've never proclaimed to be a whiz at putting thoughts to words, but I think you get the jist. It's way too easy for employers to overlook prospects like myself and shoot for the fresh college student. People like myself who do not appear disabled often fall through the cracks in the system. If I were blind or partially paralyzed; I would have a job immediately. Here's a great example:

The federally funded vocational rehab program would not let me pursue a career in computer graphics because my original wrist surgeon refused to write a letter stating that I wouldn't suffer from carpal tunnel due to typing/using a mouse all day. What doctor is going to write and sign a letter like that? :rolleyes: Yet, knowing very well that my knees are in bad shape; the rehab program insisted I take a night security job where I would be walking most of the evening. :confused:

:rolleyes: Yikes. I need to maintain silence or I will offend an entire segement of society. :D I have seen that behavior first hand though.

Illigitimi non carborundum as the old saying goes.


Barry

[DsrtJeeper]

:rolleyes: Yikes. I need to maintain silence or I will offend an entire segement of society. :D I have seen that behavior first hand though.

Illigitimi non carborundum as the old saying goes.


Barry

I can only imagine what you're holding back. :D

[TRobertsRN]

I applaud your efforts and though I rarely ever say this, "I know how you feel". I have been lucky enough to find a desk job using my nurseing license. I am no longer able to work on my feet for more than 4 hours a day due to medical complications and nursing shifts are 12 hours in my old job. It took me more than a year to land this job. Don't give up. My new job starts on Monday, and I can tell you my mental outlook has been incredible ever since they told me I was hired.

What kind of work did you do in dairy specifically?

[DsrtJeeper]

I applaud your efforts and though I rarely ever say this, "I know how you feel". I have been lucky enough to find a desk job using my nurseing license. I am no longer able to work on my feet for more than 4 hours a day due to medical complications and nursing shifts are 12 hours in my old job. It took me more than a year to land this job. Don't give up. My new job starts on Monday, and I can tell you my mental outlook has been incredible ever since they told me I was hired.

What kind of work did you do in dairy specifically?

Thanks for the support and glimpse of hope. I can only imagine hearing the words; "You're hired." It's very hard to imagine myself in a desk job capacity after working with my hands so long. I know it's a reality and I will most likely end up with such a job. I just hope that I don't have to settle for a dead end job that requires no challenges or room for upward growth.

I did it all on a farm in upstate NY. I milked the cows, managed the herd, drove heavy machinery as well as repair it, logged the forest on our land, you name it....I moved to AZ in '88 and started out as a hotel maintenance employee. I then switched to a foreman position for a demolition company and lastly ended up working with my Dad in the lifecare facility environment. I did carpentry, AC, electrical, plumbing, drywall, painting, etc..... I enjoyed that place a great deal as working with the elderly is very rewarding. The residents were very appreciative of everything done and they always have a story of interest to offer.

Congrats on your new job!!! I'm right on your heels. :)

[SavageSun4x4]

I've helped many folks to acquire new positions in life. When I retired from the military, I had something to offer as a computer engineer. I worked and consulted for companies as large as AT&T and MCI. Later I started my own company. But many of my friends either didn't have much to offer or just didn't know how to 'translate' military into civvy.

Having helped many of them my suggestion to you is:

Make a list of areas that you have developed some or any level of skills.

Now, give each a numercial value from 1 to 5, 1 being you have been exposed to it and know what it is to 5 being I am as good as anyone at doing it and telling others how to do it.

Now take this list and review each one and ask yourself 'can I do this 8 hours a day, 5 days a week with no problem. If you can't do, cross it off your list.

Look at the jobs you have left and rank them from 1 to 5, I want to do this and would do it for free and I wouldn't do it if they paid me.

At this point, you have narrowed this down to several areas that you can do and would like to do.

Now ask yourself or friends, where I can find this kind of work? What type of business needs this?

You are looking for work you can do everyday, work that pays and work that provide you with job satisfaction.

You have some admitted drawbacks. Off the top, you fall into what we call, the 'sick, lame, and lazy', whether or not you really are is something that only you can answer. Certainly by the fact you are reach out to your friends, tells me you want to get up and move on.

I can tell you I and almost every senior level manager I know I been burnt repeatedly by giving folks in the aforementioned category a chance. Booze, drugs, real and imagined illnesses have strung us on for weeks and months at a time. Because after you hire them, you cannot fire them for the aforementioned problems.

You are facing a double whammy. I was in a bad motorcycle wreck in ’92 and I am just now getting better so I want to go to work. Frankly, that scares the hell out of any prospective employer. Especially when they just hired the kid who was shot and blown up in Iraq last year, spent most of the year in a VA hospital learning how to use prosthetic devices and he is now on the job. Your saying it took me 13 years to heal and you walked into to the office for the interview and 2 hands, 2 arms and both eyes something the Iraq vet doesn’t have.

Yes that is tough to overcome, but you can by showing them, I want to work, need to work, can do the job and will do it well.

Think positive and be prepared to demonstrate you can perform and be relied upon. You might have to make an offer of ‘I know the job pays $35k, but I want to prove myself. I’ll work at min wage for 30 days then we will talk, you make the call’.

[DsrtJeeper]

You're absolutely right Don. What was I thinking sitting home all those years? :rolleyes:

Don; Did you happen to read this in one of my post above?
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"Actually; I suffer long term consequences from two bad accidents. Both wrists were shattered and are pinned and plated together. My pelvis was broke in 3 places and split apart 12". That is now pinned, screwed and plated together. Both lower tib/fib on right leg were broke severely resulting in multiple compound fractures. My right leg has a rod running from the knee to the ankle. Both knees were ruined as well. I have no PCL in my right knee and both knees are bone on bone. (Lack of cartilage). My right hand was broke and is now held together with screws. I suffer from short term memory loss even though I was wearing a helmet. It mostly effects me during speech and I ocassionaly even studder or mix two words. In a seperate accident; I then broke 8 ribs, punctured my right lung and dislocated my right shoulder so severely that I almost lost my arm.

As you can imagine; I'm left with limited physical endurance, pain, memory loss and the emotional effects of such trauma. It's literally taken me this long to feel well enough to again feel I can contribute something to the work force. I'm not looking for pity here; but I am needing my life back. Part of life is going to work daily, feeling rewarded about doing something constructive and having social contact on a daily basis once again.

Just for the record; I have been back to work twice and both times tried to defy the doctors advice. Both times I ended up giving notice and going in for further surgery. This is why I posted wanting a somewhat sedintary job."

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I suffered two bad accidents, both life threatening. I tried to go back to work twice against the doctors wishes. I take that back; I worked three different times through the years. Add these periods to the year and a half that I spent with the voc rehab program and I haven't exactly been sitting on my arse. It's so easy for people to be judgemental when they haven't lived it or do not know all the details.

It's ironic you should use the Iraq veteran as an example. The federal government has yet to honor promises of assistance to many Vietnam vets whom I often see at employment agency meetings and orientations.

I was looking for job leads here, not pity.

[fhjonesjr]

First of all from someone who rides; OUCH!!!
Second, I applaud you. I work with people who would love to just sit home and not work.
And third, I work for the City of Phoenix and they are very careful not to discriminate. I don't know what, if any, they have open but check pnoenix.gov/jobs to see if they have anything that you could apply for. One word of advise, apply for anything that you even come close to qualify for. the guidlines on the web site are just that a guideline. They will cosider anyone close to the requirements if they are the most qualified. Also a new list comes out every week so keep checking. Good Luck. :D

[SavageSun4x4]

You're absolutely right Don. What was I thinking sitting home all those years? :rolleyes:

Don; Did you happen to read this in one of my post above?
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It's ironic you should use the Iraq veteran as an example. The federal government has yet to honor promises of assistance to many Vietnam vets whom I often see at employment agency meetings and orientations.

I was looking for job leads here, not pity.

I read your posts.

Eric, I wasn't offering you pity, but rather advice and the viewpoint from the other side of the desk. You were asking for help and I gave you a straight shooting viewpoint. Your up against a lot and I feel the best thing I can do is not sugar coat, but tell it like it is.

Would I hire you? You bet, in spite of being burned so many times I have lost track. I have hired them only later to put them in detox and dry them out. He was out for nearly 6 months, continued to pay him as he had a wife and kids who needed it. I have had them steal me blind and still give them there last paycheck and wish them well in there next job. I have never even given a bad reference. I can go on and on. I always say I will never do it again, but I always do. Why, guess its just me in giving the underdog a chance.

I also know what it like on your side of the desk. I am a disabled Nam vet. I have been escorted out of a building by two security officers from a Fortune 500 corp. What did I do wrong, nothing other than answer the question honestly. "are you a Viet Nam veteran?' "Yes I am." At that time he left the room and called security, the next thing I knew to guys with guns came in the office and I was told to leave, NOW!

Yea, I've had to find somebody to give me a chance, yes I have offered to work free or near free. I have had so many class 1A drug tests you can't beleive it. That is the test where they cut hair, you P in a cup and they draw blood. All Nam vets are druggies you know.

Its ugly out there, I tried to help, sorry I did, you can disreguard all I said. After all I am just some disabled Nam vet what would I know.

Hell, Eric, I even gave you a job lead, didn't hear you saying thanks or I'll give him a call, can I use your name...

You are an ok guy and I like you, did before and still do, I wish you luck.:)

[DsrtJeeper]

I read your posts.

Eric, I wasn't offering you pity, but rather advice and the viewpoint from the other side of the desk. You were asking for help and I gave you a straight shooting viewpoint. Your up against a lot and I feel the best thing I can do is not sugar coat, but tell it like it is.

Would I hire you? You bet, in spite of being burned so many times I have lost track. I have hired them only later to put them in detox and dry them out. He was out for nearly 6 months, continued to pay him as he had a wife and kids who needed it. I have had them steal me blind and still give them there last paycheck and wish them well in there next job. I have never even given a bad reference. I can go on and on. I always say I will never do it again, but I always do. Why, guess its just me in giving the underdog a chance.

I also know what it like on your side of the desk. I am a disabled Nam vet. I have been escorted out of a building by two security officers from a Fortune 500 corp. What did I do wrong, nothing other than answer the question honestly. "are you a Viet Nam veteran?' "Yes I am." At that time he left the room and called security, the next thing I knew to guys with guns came in the office and I was told to leave, NOW!

Yea, I've had to find somebody to give me a chance, yes I have offered to work free or near free. I have had so many class 1A drug tests you can't beleive it. That is the test where they cut hair, you P in a cup and they draw blood. All Nam vets are druggies you know.

Its ugly out there, I tried to help, sorry I did, you can disreguard all I said. After all I am just some disabled Nam vet what would I know.

Hell, Eric, I even gave you a job lead, didn't hear you saying thanks or I'll give him a call, can I use your name...

You are an ok guy and I like you, did before and still do, I wish you luck.:)

Don;
I know I have a bad memory, but what job lead did you give me. I can't find it anywhere in your post. I do appreciate your advice on how to narrow down my job search. Thank you.

[DsrtJeeper]

First of all from someone who rides; OUCH!!!
Second, I applaud you. I work with people who would love to just sit home and not work.
And third, I work for the City of Phoenix and they are very careful not to discriminate. I don't know what, if any, they have open but check pnoenix.gov/jobs to see if they have anything that you could apply for. One word of advise, apply for anything that you even come close to qualify for. the guidlines on the web site are just that a guideline. They will cosider anyone close to the requirements if they are the most qualified. Also a new list comes out every week so keep checking. Good Luck. :D

Thank you! Will look on their website right now. :) I know it's hard to believe, but when you've been out of the loop for a while; you forget some of the most obvious places to look.

[SavageSun4x4]

Don;
I know I have a bad memory, but what job lead did you give me. I can't find it anywhere in your post. I do appreciate your advice on how to narrow down my job search. Thank you.
You got it.

Well hit on me then, cause I can't find it either. It was at the bottom of my intended post. I compose in MS Word to catch the errors and I guess that I didn't pick it all up on the copy-paste. I apologize:)

What I said:
You might want to consider something like selling cars. I have talked with you and your knowledge of Jeeps is strong. That said, Airpark Jeep was hiring a short time ago, do not know if they still are. Jason, who I have wheeled with is a stand up guy and some kind of high up I think. Anyhow, stop by and see him, your welcome to mention I said for you to do so.

If its not something that is your cup of tea, thats ok, just trying to suggest some things that would work for you.

[DsrtJeeper]

You got it.

Well hit on me then, cause I can't find it either. It was at the bottom of my intended post. I compose in MS Word to catch the errors and I guess that I didn't pick it all up on the copy-paste. I apologize:)

What I said:
You might want to consider something like selling cars. I have talked with you and your knowledge of Jeeps is strong. That said, Airpark Jeep was hiring a short time ago, do not know if they still are. Jason, who I have wheeled with is a stand up guy and some kind of high up I think. Anyhow, stop by and see him, your welcome to mention I said for you to do so.

If its not something that is your cup of tea, thats ok, just trying to suggest some things that would work for you.

I saw that ad and was very tempted. Too be perfectly honest; I've never met Jason and I tend to put all car salesman into one category. Some of my worst experiences have been with car salesman. I've been lied to, deceived, chased through the lot,etc.... Besides; don't you have to smoke and be balding to qualify? :D Sorry Jason...no offense to you.

[Wind_Danzer]

Have you been working on your computer skills any? Played around with the Excel on your computer, Word or anything else that employers may be looking for?

Is Tempe out of the question and is working 4 days on 3 days off also out of the question?

PM me if you are interested. :)

[TRobertsRN]

Car sales usually entails much time on your feet. 8-15 hours a day 6-8 days in a row. I am guessing that if this was tolerable for you there are a lot of other things you would prefer.

Now something you might enjoy at a car dealership and dosen't involve the pressure and inconsistancy of commision sales might me parts, cashier, reception, or others.

Maybe sales at a place like 4 wheel parts.

[1BLKJP]

I saw that ad and was very tempted. Too be perfectly honest; I've never met Jason and I tend to put all car salesman into one category. Some of my worst experiences have been with car salesman. I've been lied to, deceived, chased through the lot,etc.... Besides; don't you have to smoke and be balding to qualify? :D Sorry Jason...no offense to you.

Get Simon to hire you working the counter at Wheelers. :D

[DsrtJeeper]

Get Simon to hire you working the counter at Wheelers. :D

4 Wheelers would be my dream job!!! :)

[DsrtJeeper]

Have you been working on your computer skills any? Played around with the Excel on your computer, Word or anything else that employers may be looking for?

Is Tempe out of the question and is working 4 days on 3 days off also out of the question?

PM me if you are interested. :)

I don't have Excel or Word. :confused:

I told you before that I refuse to sell my body! :D What's the job in Tempe?

[Bill Ritter]

I'm a people person and I truley miss the socializing aspect of a job.

Have you ever considered selling Real Estate ?

Bill

[TRobertsRN]

If you are interested in Real Estate Sales I have more information than you could want.

I got my license last year.

Depending on which part of Real estate you are interested in (residential new vs resale, commerical, propterty management, time shares) will require differerent amouts of time before a steady income is expected.

School can be as short as 10 working days to more than a year if you want. I can set you up with an interview if you decide this is the job for you.

[DREDnot]

I was trying to picture myself all bashed up like in your description, and I pictured myself sitting in the booth at Lake Pleasant collecting the entrance fees.

West side, climate controlled office in the desert, not much typing involved, gub'mint job, spendin all day watching for jeep chickies...

Just a thought

[DsrtJeeper]

I'm a people person and I truley miss the socializing aspect of a job.

Have you ever considered selling Real Estate ?

Bill

You guys are reading my mind! :D I just spoke with the neighbor who just received her license a couple of months ago. She is now placed under a broker and in two months time; she hasn't sold one house. :confused: I know she's very energetic and is a real go-getter, but she claims the competition is fierce and the market is flooded with agents.

I was considering just shooting for established residential sales.

[DsrtJeeper]

If you are interested in Real Estate Sales I have more information than you could want.

I got my license last year.

Depending on which part of Real estate you are interested in (residential new vs resale, commerical, propterty management, time shares) will require differerent amouts of time before a steady income is expected.

School can be as short as 10 working days to more than a year if you want. I can set you up with an interview if you decide this is the job for you.

Tom;
I'm curious as to what happened after you received your license. You mentioned a new job and it didn't appear to be real estate related.

[DsrtJeeper]

I was trying to picture myself all bashed up like in your description, and I pictured myself sitting in the booth at Lake Pleasant collecting the entrance fees.

West side, climate controlled office in the desert, not much typing involved, gub'mint job, spendin all day watching for jeep chickies...

Just a thought

Ya know; that sounds kinda neat. I never would have thought of that. Vocational Rehabilitation once asked me what I really wanted to do after telling them repeatedly that I could not perform an all night security position. I told them that there's this guy up on the rim with a sweet government job that I'd love to have. My counselor looked at me in disbelief as I desribed the gentleman who operates the trout farm up there. He is supplied with a nice home, lives in the forest, can have fresh trout whenever and he gets paid to do it! That's livin in my book! :)

[SavageSun4x4]

Postal Service
Accepting applications for over 300 positions, all shifts available, full time and part time, $12.43 an hour to start.

Open house from noon to 3 pm 25 Feb at Glendale REC, 5260 W Phelps Road, Bld C in the 51 Bells Office Complex.

www.usps.com/employment

[TRobertsRN]

Tom;
I'm curious as to what happened after you received your license. You mentioned a new job and it didn't appear to be real estate related.

The new job is phone work using my nurseing license. I have been involved for years in fixing up homes and reselling them. The Real Estate License gives me better axcess to the market and now I get the commission when I buy or sell a house. I currently have about 10 people I am helping look for homes also.

The nursing job provides me with steady income, insurance, and I look better on paper for home loans. You can get health insurance in the Real Estate Business but the companies that offer it have a reduced commission scale. For instance Century 21 offered me insurance and a 50% split on commmisions. The company I am with I get 70 and they get 30% and after about 4-6 houses in a year I get 100%.

So far I have bought one house and leased out another.

[DsrtJeeper]

Postal Service
Accepting applications for over 300 positions, all shifts available, full time and part time, $12.43 an hour to start.

Open house from noon to 3 pm 25 Feb at Glendale REC, 5260 W Phelps Road, Bld C in the 51 Bells Office Complex.

www.usps.com/employment

Thanks Don. My wife and I both took the postal test several months ago and have yet to hear anything. They told us we might hear something right away or six months later. We have a friend who has worked there for over 20 years and he keeps us informed on what's going on. That would be a sweet job if I can get in. I might just hit that open house to see what the scoop is on prior applicants. What happens many times is these positions are taken by current post office employees and their families. It's often hard for these employees to get day time shifts or ones that offer weekends off; so alot of bidding is done from inside. We on the outside have to wait for the leftovers. :(

[DsrtJeeper]

I can get you both of these...PM me...

You have mail. :)

[Wind_Danzer]

I don't have Excel or Word. :confused:

I told you before that I refuse to sell my body! :D What's the job in Tempe?

You have to have Word on your computer.

and...

Damn... I'd pay a pretty penny!!!! :p

Anyway it's with Mesa in their corporate building on 44th street. It's the position of Crew Tracker. Pay isn't all that great (think the site said 10/hour) but I'd think health bennies would be the most important for you at this time. They are pretty easy to get with so even if you don't like the job, you could be working making money while finding something better in the mean time. Problem is it is computer related.

They also have other openings that don't rely so much on computers. I'll drop you a line with a link tomorrow when I get back into town.

[Oc1paddler]

Funny you should mention the guy who runs the trout farm up north. He's a friend of mine and he has a great quality of life. Doesn't make a whole lot of money but loves what he does.
Pierre
72 big block commando

[DsrtJeeper]

Good news; good news!!! I've landed a job! I'm stoked. Starting date is July 10th, pay is good and benefits are excellent! :)

Sore bones; don't fail me now....:D

Special thanks to Shnipe for being instrumental in helping me get back to work. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ More Jeep parts!!! :p

[mingoglia]

Did you get a job at Airpark?

[SavageSun4x4]

Good news; good news!!! I've landed a job! I'm stoked. Starting date is July 10th, pay is good and benefits are excellent! :)

Sore bones; don't fail me now....:D

Special thanks to Shnipe for being instrumental in helping me get back to work. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ More Jeep parts!!! :p
GREAT!!!! Tell us more, what kind of work, where. I am sure you will do great and enjoy your new job:D

[DsrtJeeper]

GREAT!!!! Tell us more, what kind of work, where. I am sure you will do great and enjoy your new job:D

I'll be in the engineering department at a Scottsdale resort. My first job in AZ was there and my old boss remembered me after Shnipe mentioned my name. He then offered me a position. I'll be working 2nd shift which will be better for traffic. I'll be maintaining the boilers, chillers, room problem calls, maintaining electronic room locks, replacing burnt out night lighting, etc...

I'm excited and hope ny body will cooperate. The walking will be the worse part. All I can do is try. :)

[1toughxj]

Congrats Eric, thats great news.

[DsrtJeeper]

Congrats Eric, thats great news.

Thanks! I don't know if you read the whole thread, but this a great feat to finally land a job.

[Antman]

Congrats Eric! Let us know how it goes my friend. Back in 91, I messed up my back and thought I would never work again either. That's a scary feeling, and I worked through it. My employer didnt know that the hardest part of my day was getting from my truck in the parking lot to my desk, and then back at the end of the day. Luckily my supervisor took care of me and I repaired circuit boards for 3 months until I was able to do more. At times I felt worthless.
Here I am 15 years later retired and very happy, but live with those back problems still. You learn to cope. Anyway, didnt mean to get off on me, so Good Luck Eric and go get em!

[FrenchChili]

Woot woot!!!!! CONGRATS!!!!

[DsrtJeeper]

Congrats Eric! Let us know how it goes my friend. Back in 91, I messed up my back and thought I would never work again either. That's a scary feeling, and I worked through it. My employer didnt know that the hardest part of my day was getting from my truck in the parking lot to my desk, and then back at the end of the day. Luckily my supervisor took care of me and I repaired circuit boards for 3 months until I was able to do more. At times I felt worthless.
Here I am 15 years later retired and very happy, but live with those back problems still. You learn to cope. Anyway, didnt mean to get off on me, so Good Luck Eric and go get em!

Thanks! If I had listened to the doctors in the beginning; I would have committed suicide! I knew there was hope and I was too pig headed to give up. I drew energy from friends and family that wouldn't let me quit. Sure; I still hurt, but I'm not dead! :)

[DsrtJeeper]

Woot woot!!!!! CONGRATS!!!!

You're so....well uh....FRENCH! :D

[FrenchChili]

lol :D

[Spongebob]

I'm not sure if you've tried yet, but you may want to check out www.azstatejobs.gov and see if the State of Arizona has any openings that you may be interested in. I am a state employee, and I can honestly say that the benefits are second to none compared to a lot of the other jobs that I have held. Give them a look see...




Cheers,

[Spongebob]

I just re-read all of the posts in this thread an saw that you landed a job! Congratulations! I hope that it works out for you.



Cheers,

[DsrtJeeper]

I just re-read all of the posts in this thread an saw that you landed a job! Congratulations! I hope that it works out for you.



Cheers,

Thanks. :)

[DsrtJeeper]

I made it!!! Three month probation is over and I'm official. :)

SSDI even gave me a hassle right to the end and I won that battle also. It seems that they'd rather have you stay on SS instead of attempting to go back to work. :rolleyes:

This all started with the words "he has 48 hours to live." Well guess what? I outlived that timeframe, I'm still kickin like a mule and I'm wheelin again!!!

Wafreakinhooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

[Cave Gimp]

That's awesome man. Glad to hear you are official.

Confusing why they would fight you going back to work though. :confused:

[Antman]

Congrats Eric. Glad to hear your doing ok! After watching you wheel, I always knew you were disabled!..... J/K!..... :D

[FrenchChili]

Eric I'm glad it's working out for ya!!!


At least it's better than your old job:
http://www.1067theend.com/system/sitecache/c4ca4238a0b923820dcc509a6f75849b/images/GintyPics/old%20job.jpg

:p


Must be quite entertaining working with Dennis:D

[SHNIPE]

YAY ERIC!! haha its been umm fun having you around! Sorry for the joke the other day. youre such a good sport :D

[DsrtJeeper]

Congrats Eric. Glad to hear your doing ok! After watching you wheel, I always knew you were disabled!..... J/K!..... :D

LOL!!! You mean more like a caboose short of a full train? :D

[DsrtJeeper]

Eric I'm glad it's working out for ya!!!


At least it's better than your old job:
http://www.1067theend.com/system/sitecache/c4ca4238a0b923820dcc509a6f75849b/images/GintyPics/old%20job.jpg

:p


Must be quite entertaining working with Dennis:D

Eh; it was a $hitty job, but somebody had to do it. :D

[DsrtJeeper]

YAY ERIC!! haha its been umm fun having you around! Sorry for the joke the other day. youre such a good sport :D

You know you miss me when I'm off. ;) :p

[OlneyJeeps]

I've tried and tried to read this thread to figure what teh heck is going on;;; from what I understand person messed up multiple accidents (1st mistake: focus on most traumatic accident and what it did to you and a course of action you have developed to overcome disability. I got discouraged has hell trying to find assistance (hot help...assistance) in my recovery. I was evenntrally guided to disabled students at ASU and from there to Voc rehab. I delayed applying for voc rehab as I envisioned being placed in meanial 3.34 and hour jobs doing nothing.... why would I do that when I was getting almost $3.50 and hour (plus discount jeep parts) from 4Wheelers Supply???:D
Just kidding... The FAMILY at 4Wheelers supply did everything they could to get me back into society working (mis stocking things:eek: ) front sales desk ($100 discount because forgot to carry the 1 on a hand written/calculated receipt) and other not so stellar performances. They stood behind me and allowed schedule to give me a chance to complete College; They are really stand up people. Anyway DASASU got me to apply at voc rehab... what a pita, forms, tests, more forms and when I was on the virge of being disallowed, caseworker decided to allow ankylosing spondolytis (kinda arthritis thing. suddenly the checkbooks opened..... PAID: tuition,parking,books,lunch,interview suit, office supplies and bunch of other things to get me started. If one person says no, politely ask another what criteria whould have to be presented to make the no a yes. Just keep trying.

[FourxDad]

CONGRATS on the PERM, so what does your hair look like now:D

[DsrtJeeper]

CONGRATS on the PERM, so what does your hair look like now:D

Thanks. It's very curly and frizzy. :D