Abandoned Late Model Cherokee in Lower Terminator

[xFallen]

On our way in to Anaconda we stumbled across this abandoned late model Cherokee at the notch Lower Terminator.

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Photos of the VIN tag did not turn out due to incorrect adjustments for the lighting.

So much for doing that obstacle as a warm up.


Barry

[jeff krause]

Stolen ???? I can't imagine what else....

[xFallen]

Stolen ???? I can't imagine what else....

Yeah, that's what I figured too. I checked for bodies. :eek:

[tyota]

OH you found it, thanks barry I was wodering wher I parked it the other night, dango I must drank more the the fishes do that night:D
hmmmm................spare's ???

[roger]

Did you guys note the VIN number and report it?

[Wildcat455]

I guess as soon as we can get a VIN on it, notify the Sherriff's Dept. we can either wait for the person's ins. company to come get it, or we can remove it... Surprised it wasn't burned...

[xFallen]

Did you guys note the VIN number and report it?


Photos of the VIN tag did not turn out due to incorrect adjustments for the lighting.



Ummm...no...the attempt failed.

Later I will try and pull the VIN out of the digital picture I took.


Barry

[Oldyeller]

So uh, it's stilll there? anybody know how hard it would be to pull the motor when you can't get the hood open? ;)

[xFallen]

So uh, it's stilll there? anybody know how hard it would be to pull the motor when you can't get the hood open? ;)

Portable plasma cutter maybe? Big ole sawzall?

These pictures were taken yesterday 2006-06-08 about 9:30 am or so.

Does anyone recognize the logo on the tailgate beneath the Jeep logo? It says Booby something. I did read it when I was there but only remember the Booby part. :rolleyes:


Barry

[Oldyeller]

looks like it just says Booby Fool to me, Don't recognize the jeep or the logo, maybe call the PD and see if there's one been reported stolen?

EDIT: I wonder how they got out after it rolled?

[jeepsonly]

Let's see...back window busted and no license plate. Pretty good chance it was stolen. Any chance AZVJC can offer to help recover the vehicle for the Sheriff's office and get some positive PR out of it? We've recovered vehicles before, though usually they're an unusable mess by then.

[Oldyeller]

Looks like it's got a hitch on it, d-ring hitch insert and a winch oughta pull it right outta there.

[Triple-XJ]

That thing needs to be removed before it gets shot into pieces...

If I can, I will help. Let me know what the plan is.

[mingoglia]

I'm not sure how far it's in but I can probably get out there with my dually to pull it from as far as I can get in....which means if we meet out there you guys will have to pull it with your Jeeps at least to the point where I can get my truck in to pull it the rest of the way. Barry, how far in is this? If my memory serves me isn't this towards the end of the trail right before that last obstacle (so I might be able to meet at the end of the trail)?

[Heybeerman]

Surprised it wasn't burned...


It will be soon:(


Blake

[jeepsonly]

That's great guys but make sure you contact the Sheriff first.

[xFallen]

I'm not sure how far it's in but I can probably get out there with my dually to pull it from as far as I can get in....which means if we meet out there you guys will have to pull it with your Jeeps at least to the point where I can get my truck in to pull it the rest of the way. Barry, how far in is this? If my memory serves me isn't this towards the end of the trail right before that last obstacle (so I might be able to meet at the end of the trail)?

Mike,

Your duallie would make it easy. That part of the trail is 2WD. You may get some AZ pinstriping on the sides and the roof. It is at the first turn after coming off the main road heading to Lower Terminator just before heading up Anaconda. It is wedged into that notch which makes a nice starting obstacle to Lower Terminator.

I think there are smaller rigs that could pull it out once it is off its nose allowing you to save your paint scraping fro something else. :D

I agree that whomever decides to get it off the trail should call the Sheriff's department first.


Barry

[k7mto]

Any reason you guys didn't at least pull it down (or up) and move it off the trail, if only so you and others could climb the fall?

[xFallen]

Any reason you guys didn't at least pull it down (or up) and move it off the trail, if only so you and others could climb the fall?

Frankly, I did not think about it even touching it since a) we were there to do Anaconda and b) I did not want to do any further damage. It isn't going to be pretty yanking it out, and it would not be my place to make that call without making appropriate arrangements. It isn't like it just needed dragged one way or the other, know what I mean Vern?


Barry

[mingoglia]

I don't mind some pin stripping as long as it's not too deep. So who's up for a recovery after contacting the law to give them the heads up? The weekend will work for me but I'd prefer to do it earlier in the day as it's over an hour away for me and don't want to waste my entire day since I have some wrenching to do on the heep. :)

[Huck]

As a proud member of the Mookie Rescue and Recovery team..... I'm winched, strapped, snatch blocked and ready to help with the recovery. Just let me know a date and time,
Huck

[Tom Schenk]

As a proud member of the Mookie Rescue and Recovery team..... I'm winched, strapped, snatch blocked and ready to help with the recovery. Just let me know a date and time,
Huck

Don't sell yourself short Huck, you are also a member of the Tom Schenk FR 42 rescue and recovery team with only 1 rescue less then Kent! :eek: :D

[mingoglia]

I'm ready to go on Saturday but need a couple things.

1) Can I assume the vehicle is still there? Huck do you know approximately where it is? I've only been to Lower Terminator once, and at night so I have no idea how to get there.

2) I imagine just the two of us could get it out? I believe I can drag it out myself but have never tried to find traction while pulling out a upside down vehicle out of a rock trench.

Mike

[xFallen]

I'm ready to go on Saturday but need a couple things.

1) Can I assume the vehicle is still there? Huck do you know approximately where it is? I've only been to Lower Terminator once, and at night so I have no idea how to get there.

2) I imagine just the two of us could get it out? I believe I can drag it out myself but have never tried to find traction while pulling out a upside down vehicle out of a rock trench.

Mike

I wouldn't lay a finger on it until the Sheriff's department has been notified. What will you do with it once it is removed? Presumably the county will advise whomever speaks with them. That is Yavapai County as soon as you cross the Agra Fria near Gillette. You follow the Cottonwood Gulch road up to the pass then as it drops back down but before it starts to climb back up hang a right at the bottom -- that's the entrance to Lower Terminator.


Barry

[mingoglia]

Exactly, once we determined that we are actually ready to attempt removal I was going to contact the Sheriff's department and figure out how they want to handle it. Since this is potentially a stolen vehicle I'd imagine the Sheriff's department would want to meet us out there so he can do his investigation.

[mingoglia]

OK, I just got off the phone with the Yavapai Sheriff's office. The dispatcher is going to have an actual officer call me back that's familiar with that area. I suppose I'll just give him the directions to get there as they can't even find out if it's stolen until they have a vin or license number.

Mike

[xFallen]

Exactly, once we determined that we are actually ready to attempt removal I was going to contact the Sheriff's department and figure out how they want to handle it. Since this is potentially a stolen vehicle I'd imagine the Sheriff's department would want to meet us out there so he can do his investigation.

I am actually curious about how that goes.

I tried to report a similar situation once and was met with "Gee. Thanks. We'll get right on that." Nothing visible was done about it. Meaning, something may have been done, but it was not apparent. The vehicle was eventually moved by a private party to another public but less annoying location where it sat until one day it was just gone. I do not know how it was disposed. This took place in the City of Phoenix proper.


Barry

[mingoglia]

I suppose that's our tax dollars at work? :o

[xFallen]

I suppose that's our tax dollars at work? :o

I dunno. If memory serves we are among the nation's leaders for auto theft. Maybe there's not enough resoucre in it and we are resigned to make it an insurance issue. Given a choice I suppose I would rather have the cops chasing and apprehending criminals than recovering stolen property.


Barry

[Huck]

I know the way to those trails and I'm sure we can find that upside down XJ with no issues if its anywhere along lower to upper Terminator.....

Tom, I remember the submarine rescue. We won't be back to that beach for a while, if ever from what I've been reading. What you don't know about are the two other Mookie rescues that I've gone on since the 'big flop'. He just calls and I go out and pull him off/out of trouble. So, Kent and I have a joke about being a part of the MRRT (Mookie Rescue and Recovery Team). I'm certainly up for joining other teams:D

Lets grab us an XJ. Without seing the carnage in person, yet, I wouldn't mind if we had another winch or two in on the action. Sometimes one is used to steady or pull while another can help with getting it right sided up. The Jeep appeared to be in real good shape from the pics and I'd hate to just drag the $%#&&^ out of it, just because we have limited equipment. I've got some pigpads and peatsorb for the postmortem cleanup, as well.
Let me know, for me, its Valentines weekend and I'm also trying to help finish up a Nth Degree LA install with a buddy.
Standing by,
Huck

[Markos]

This is interesting. I'm curios to see how it turns out. Hopefully the XJ isn't a lost cause after sitting for a few days. I'd expect it to be riddled with bullet holes or set on fire by now.

What are the odds that you could start it once the vehicle was upright? Wouldn't it just be easier to drive it out? I'm sure the ignition wires are already accessible at this point. Do you get a lot of oil in the combustion chamber when the engine sits like that?

If not, I'm sure you could still steer the thing and push hard on the brakes while someone else straps you down the trail.

[Tom Schenk]

Tom, I remember the submarine rescue. We won't be back to that beach for a while, if ever from what I've been reading. What you don't know about are the two other Mookie rescues that I've gone on since the 'big flop'. He just calls and I go out and pull him off/out of trouble. So, Kent and I have a joke about being a part of the MRRT (Mookie Rescue and Recovery Team). I'm certainly up for joining other teams:D


I guess I'm not the only one bumming tugs around here. :D Since then I have happily kept to wheeling terra firma. I'd like to help out with this extraction but I think that without a winch I'll be as useful as tits on a bull, good luck.

[xFallen]

I know the way to those trails and I'm sure we can find that upside down XJ with no issues if its anywhere along lower to upper Terminator.....

Tom, I remember the submarine rescue. We won't be back to that beach for a while, if ever from what I've been reading. What you don't know about are the two other Mookie rescues that I've gone on since the 'big flop'. He just calls and I go out and pull him off/out of trouble. So, Kent and I have a joke about being a part of the MRRT (Mookie Rescue and Recovery Team). I'm certainly up for joining other teams:D

Lets grab us an XJ. Without seing the carnage in person, yet, I wouldn't mind if we had another winch or two in on the action. Sometimes one is used to steady or pull while another can help with getting it right sided up. The Jeep appeared to be in real good shape from the pics and I'd hate to just drag the $%#&&^ out of it, just because we have limited equipment. I've got some pigpads and peatsorb for the postmortem cleanup, as well.
Let me know, for me, its Valentines weekend and I'm also trying to help finish up a Nth Degree LA install with a buddy.
Standing by,
Huck

As stated, "at the notch Lower Terminator" which is at the beginning of the trail about 50 feet from the entrance to Anaconda.

Someone wondered about it being drivable. There is that distinct possibility. I did not see keys but also did not perform an exhaustive search. The thing appears to be in decent shape from what I saw. I agree -- I would also not want to see it further damaged needlessly in case the owner needs to recover it out of pocket. Banging it up more wouldn't be doing them any favors.

A clever/careful recovery could be done to minimize additional damage. Two winches and some clever rigging or three winches and good coordinated winch control could have that thing on its wheels with minimal additional damage, I think.

Basically, we know absolutely nothing. All anyone on this thread knows is what they have seen from a couple of pictures. Everything is pretty much speculation without more concrete details.


Barry

[Huck]

Roger that,
I just don't like the idea of just dragging it for the sake of dragging it. From what I saw in the pictures and my knowledge of that trail, I think a couple of winches (or 3) and we should be able to get it upright and then pulled out behind any of our rigs. I don't particularly see a reason for scratching up a dually to drag it out. Once its upright, most anyones heap in 4lo can pull it out to the main raod from where Barry has described the location. I know I can manage it with a driver sitting in the XJ.
Once its out on the main road, it can be trailered out from there. Has anyone heard back from the authorities about this? I'm not for disturbing a 'crime scene', which this would appear to be. That XJ just looks too clean to be dumped like that.
Regarding the whole burning and shooting thing, that XJ is off of the beaten path and during the week not many folks are running Lower Terminator. The ones that do are hopefully, not weekend warrior types, that are just there to shoot things or burn things. If it was by some of the shooting areas, I could see it being riddled. I would like to think that where it was dumped is a pretty safe area, for it to be.
PM me so I know what's up with this whole deal. I'm willing to run out there this evening, as well. Lets just make sure to do this the 'right' way and we'll photo document the rescue.
FWIW,
Huck

[mingoglia]

OK, I spoke to a Sheriff about this a few hours ago. I was in a lunch meeting at the time and just got back so I'm only responding now. He said that he can't get out there until next week however there are two other Sheriffs that may be able to get there Monday or Tuesday. He said if we could get the VIN number it would help tremendously to determine who the owner is. He mentioned if it's a theft that there's a company he often calls that removes vehicles from rural areas. Not sure what that's about, but if it's only abandoned we may have to drag it out. Don't know why he differentiated between theft as opposed to abandoned. Do they not offer there services if it's not stolen?

Anyway, the other very helpful piece of information is the GPS coordinates of the vehicle. As Barry describes it's right after the beginning of the trail and "Lifes a Jeep" has PM'd me some GPS coordinates of the beginning so that should get them close.

I'm debating heading up there to get the VIN number. I could always bring the Rhino up there and check it out (the Jeep has no rear driveshaft as I just installed my 8.8 and am getting ready to do the SYE).

If I get the VIN I have the Sheriff's number and I'll call him ASAP. The more I think about it the more I think I may want to head up there with the Rhino.

[rvisokey]

Don't know why he differentiated between theft as opposed to abandoned

Abandoned = registered owner does not claim the vehicle as theirs anymore or does not want a vested interest in the vehicle. Basically.. if you claim it, 30 days later it's yours (unless their is a lean on it).
Stolen = (ummm not hard to figure this one out)

[xFallen]

OK, I spoke to a Sheriff about this a few hours ago. I was in a lunch meeting at the time and just got back so I'm only responding now. He said that he can't get out there until next week however there are two other Sheriffs that may be able to get there Monday or Tuesday. He said if we could get the VIN number it would help tremendously to determine who the owner is. He mentioned if it's a theft that there's a company he often calls that removes vehicles from rural areas. Not sure what that's about, but if it's only abandoned we may have to drag it out. Don't know why he differentiated between theft as opposed to abandoned. Do they not offer there services if it's not stolen?

Anyway, the other very helpful piece of information is the GPS coordinates of the vehicle. As Barry describes it's right after the beginning of the trail and "Lifes a Jeep" has PM'd me some GPS coordinates of the beginning so that should get them close.

I'm debating heading up there to get the VIN number. I could always bring the Rhino up there and check it out (the Jeep has no rear driveshaft as I just installed my 8.8 and am getting ready to do the SYE).

If I get the VIN I have the Sheriff's number and I'll call him ASAP. The more I think about it the more I think I may want to head up there with the Rhino.

You can't miss it once you're on the trail unless it is gone, of course.

I thought it was not legal to abandon vehicles like that. I am sure it was stolen and ditched. It is a pretty stupid place and manner to abandon a vehicle if the owner did it intentionally.


Barry

[live24wheel]

Ok I may as well chime in and see if I can help. About 2 months ago me and my dad went through the exact same thing out at table mesa. We found a tahoe that was run off the road out in the backroads out there when we were Quail hunting. My dad got the VIN and being he is a Private Investigator he looked it up and found everything out. We went ahead and called the sheriff and they couldn't find it so I had to go up there and take them to it. Then they did just that, called the company that recoveres these vehicles. I believe the company is called Arizona Outback Recovery. They do theft, abandoned and all that fancy stuff. I had to meet them up there again the next day and show them where it was. They have jeeps and are set up to do the recoveries, I also managed to get the guy with the recovery company to break an axle on the way out there :D oops. Anyways, they work through the insurance company to get the vehicle out of there and back to them. Or as we were told the sheriff uses them! lol Me and my dad tried pulling a good one for the club to see if we could pull it out to clean up the area but because it needed to get back to the insurance or something they just use the recovery company. Also if you ask to come and help or whatch as they recover it, They won't alow you anywhere near due to liability.... Hope that helped some.

[Huck]

My assumption is that we are waiting for the Sherriff's or at least the VIN to be run, before we do anything? I'm assuming no rescue attempt for this weekend then?
Just let me know. I scheduled the install work for Sunday and cleared my schedule for Saturday morning. I'm going to fill that void, though, if we are putting off the recovery.
Huck

[Steve]

:cool: The difference in the abandon vs stolen is in the contracts with tow companies. Stolen vehicles will be recovered at the insurances expense or owners depends on the coverage. This could be a costly ordeal for the owner, with my experience with these recoveries I made alot of money extracting "stolen" vehicles. Now as far as the abandon the Sheriff's are not in the habit of "cleaning" up our deserts or rural areas. The end expense is too great that is why we have multiple vehicles still laying around in the trails e.g. Firebird. Anyhow it technically is the owners responsiblity to get the vehicle out even if it is abandon. but it is never pursued by the Sheriffs'. I would not go and have a end of clearance on it the vehicle, if you get caught taking anything from it you could end up being prosecuted for theft. If you want to try and recover my suggestion would be meet with the sheriff after it has been determined it is stolen, and suggest that you could recover it to a better location for the owner if they so desire. Thus most likely saving the owner major money.:rolleyes: Steve

[mingoglia]

Arizona Outback Recovery, that rings a bell. I believe that's who he said it was. Yeah, no recovery until the VIN number is located. I can either give the GPS coordinates (thanks John) to the Sheriff and he can meander his way eventually out there or I (or someone) can write down the VIN. I'd imagine this would be the best way because after this point the Sheriff will be able to determine who owns it and hopefully which insurance company is going to pay to get it extracted. May be more motivated to get out there if he knows who's going to pay.

Regardless, I wouldn't even get my finger prints anywhere near that thing until advised by the local Mr. Policeman.

What do you think? Supply the GPS coordinates or is someone headed out there? I may head out there but my heep has been untrailable for a couple months and I want to bring it out next weekend...and if I use this day and head down there with my Rhino (remember, I'm about 90 mins away) my wife will use this against me as one of my queued up "play days". :) :) I'll do it if I have to because it's just a matter of time before someone shoots it up and creates more of a mess and potentially attracts an environmentalist group that uses it against us to get the trail shut down.

Mike

Ok I may as well chime in and see if I can help. About 2 months ago me and my dad went through the exact same thing out at table mesa. We found a tahoe that was run off the road out in the backroads out there when we were Quail hunting. My dad got the VIN and being he is a Private Investigator he looked it up and found everything out. We went ahead and called the sheriff and they couldn't find it so I had to go up there and take them to it. Then they did just that, called the company that recoveres these vehicles. I believe the company is called Arizona Outback Recovery. They do theft, abandoned and all that fancy stuff. I had to meet them up there again the next day and show them where it was. They have jeeps and are set up to do the recoveries, I also managed to get the guy with the recovery company to break an axle on the way out there :D oops. Anyways, they work through the insurance company to get the vehicle out of there and back to them. Or as we were told the sheriff uses them! lol Me and my dad tried pulling a good one for the club to see if we could pull it out to clean up the area but because it needed to get back to the insurance or something they just use the recovery company. Also if you ask to come and help or whatch as they recover it, They won't alow you anywhere near due to liability.... Hope that helped some.

[Steve]

:rolleyes: If I wasn't leaving out of town I'd be happy to do it. My wife will kick my ***** if I delay the trip to Vegas. Hope someone is heading out there. If you do end up touching the vehicle to get the VIN make sure you let the authorities know and where you touched. They just need to know who. Try to get the dash VIN and check to see if the column is cracked. Have a great week. :cool: Steve

[mingoglia]

Barry just PM'd me what he thinks is the pin after trying to decipher his photo. He said he ran it through a vin decoder and it checks out as a cherokee.... so I'll give that to the guy I spoke with and see it it comes back as stolen.

Mike

[D-Dub]

I was out there today and that thing is messed up now. It has no axle/drive shafts or T-case. It will be hard to move without wheels. It will probably be there awhile.

[FrenchChili]

I was out there today and that thing is messed up now. It has no axle/drive shafts or T-case. It will be hard to move without wheels. It will probably be there awhile.



sick:mad: :mad: :mad:

[swhalin]

It is probably better to post the notice without location.Then get Private messages. Give out the location to those you know, and who can handle the area, and get the help. Lurkers may have snagged the good pieces. Sad that it may have to be done like this.

20/20 hindsight

Steve

[xFallen]

It is probably better to post the notice without location.Then get Private messages. Give out the location to those you know, and who can handle the area, and get the help. Lurkers may have snagged the good pieces. Sad that it may have to be done like this.

20/20 hindsight

Steve

It is entirely within the realm of possibilities. But I don't buy it. There is no foundation other than pure conjecture that supports someone on this board, member or otherwise, stripped that vehicle. I would argue that it is equally likely that the people who left it there did it, or opportunistic types who stumbled across it. Lower Terminator is practically a road -- it gets used that much.

The people on this board, registered members or otherwise, represent a small percentage of the users of that area. Many users of that area are not recreational users and they are out there 5-7 days a week, unlike the few days a month we are. There's a bigger world out there than this one board or this limited group.

Even with all that, although this is an aspect of the society in which we live, yes it is a shame the vehicle got stolen, dumped and stripped.


Barry

[D-Dub]

We tryed to winch it out a bit, but with only one vehicle with a winch we just moved it around a little. I think it is there to stay. Maybe the trail will become name the Cherokee Terminator. Yeah and while we were out there maybe fifteen other people came through, so anyone could have taken the parts at any moment.

[mingoglia]

I'm still open to attempt to drag it out. I'll be in Scottsdale this next weekend so I'll be a bit closer.

[swhalin]

It is entirely within the realm of possibilities. But I don't buy it. There is no foundation other than pure conjecture that supports someone on this board, member or otherwise, stripped that vehicle. I would argue that it is equally likely that the people who left it there did it, or opportunistic types who stumbled across it. Lower Terminator is practically a road -- it gets used that much.

The people on this board, registered members or otherwise, represent a small percentage of the users of that area. Many users of that area are not recreational users and they are out there 5-7 days a week, unlike the few days a month we are. There's a bigger world out there than this one board or this limited group.

Even with all that, although this is an aspect of the society in which we live, yes it is a shame the vehicle got stolen, dumped and stripped.


Barry

Just my cynical .02 worth. Gets worse by the year.:rolleyes:
Still relatively new to the area and Jeeping. Haven't tried anything that sounds like it's a killer. So don't know the terrain the cherokee is in, or how accessable it is/was. Good luck getting it out.

Steve

[D-Dub]

I think the only way to drag it out would be on it's roof now. It is on the second obstacle and would be a pain in the rear. Then even if you could drag it out, what then? If I owned the vehicle I wouldn't even want it back now.

[TBob]

Tacoma guys are interested in removing this -
http://forums.delphiforums.com/southwesttaco/messages/?start=Start+Reading+%3E%3E

any more info with the sheriffs dept?

Thanks

[k7mto]

Tacoma guys are interested in removing this -
http://forums.delphiforums.com/southwesttaco/messages/?start=Start+Reading+%3E%3E


Requires registration to see the thread/pics. Can you post the pics here?

[TBob]

duno how- The tacoma guys are wanting to go and get it out of there, they are planning something for the 25th. They need the police info though. Anyone have more info ?

Requires registration to see the thread/pics. Can you post the pics here?

[Stypica]

What Grumpy had to say

"OK here is the skinny on this situation:

its BLM land and I spoke with ranger young. he is faxing me a letter authorizing us to remove t othe road and what towing co. to call to pick up. Even though doubful we would be hassled, this letter and ranger young notifing other governing authorities, will be our out if anything happens. The letter will have my name as well as the clubs name on it. I'm planning on being there but if I cna't make it someone neeeds to get this letter of auth for us so its at the site, just in case."

recent pic - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/captkirkyota/Random%20pics/P2200002.jpg

[FrenchChili]

What Grumpy had to say

"OK here is the skinny on this situation:

its BLM land and I spoke with ranger young. he is faxing me a letter authorizing us to remove t othe road and what towing co. to call to pick up. Even though doubful we would be hassled, this letter and ranger young notifing other governing authorities, will be our out if anything happens. The letter will have my name as well as the clubs name on it. I'm planning on being there but if I cna't make it someone neeeds to get this letter of auth for us so its at the site, just in case."

recent pic - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/captkirkyota/Random%20pics/P2200002.jpg


When will u be there? d/t/L

[TBob]

Saturday February 25th at TABLE MESA RD trail staging area WEST of I-17 at 9:00 AM? - that is what is planned so far.





When will u be there? d/t/L

[FrenchChili]

I'm going to the meeting for Florence issue...will there be enough time for me to help??? I live on 12th&union hills.

What equipment do u need???
I can bring tow strap (sorry no winch), trash bags, gloves, duct tape for the windows(just in case)...

I have a slightly bent d35c axle(might have carrier and spider gears) from yj that should bolt on.?..also tires w/wheels...no axle shafts so if someone has that that be cool...We could bolt it/strap it on to make things easier towing it out...I don't care about axle...just need the wheels/tires back when done:)

:rolleyes:

[TBob]

From Mike on the SWTTORA board (tacoma board)

"Everyone, thanks for the huge amount of support to get this thing off the trail. Unless anything is posted differently here, we will plan on being at the Table Mesa Road dirt staging area west of the I-17 at 9:00 am. We will pull out of there at 9:15 am SHARP and go to the trail head. Plan on cb channel #7, if not there then 4.

All hands welcome. Shovels, trash bags, bio friendly cleaner (water and simple green or better), paper towels, etc for fluid clean up. Trucks with winches VERY WELCOMED. I'll have my tow strap and spare tires (depending on bolt pattern report from dereck and nate) to hopefully put on the front (if it is somewhat intact). If you think something might be helpful, then feel free to bring it. Thanks again everyone for the big jump to get this out of there.

~Heatstroke

Mike"

[My1stJeep]

Any chance that you and the Tacoma guys will be done in time to make the land use meeting for Florence Junction? Would it be possible for you to post over to them a note about the meeting this weekend?

[fishingfever]

Anyone hear about this? I found it on the azod boards, http://www.azodchat.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10319

[westy]

I informed them about the white cherokee on terminator when I came across this thread here. Hopefully we will hear back soon from the parties involved. It sounds like they are confused as to where the jeep really is.

[TBob]

I'll post it - I will not be in town to assist with either.

Any chance that you and the Tacoma guys will be done in time to make the land use meeting for Florence Junction? Would it be possible for you to post over to them a note about the meeting this weekend?

[BuckFever]

Not an offroad fourwheeling person and don't know the area by any means but thought I'd put my $.02 it. I was thinking, maybe the back window was broken by the person who wrecked it (assuming it wasn't stolen) and the plate either taken by that person or someone else who could have gone to report it. The only thing I could thing of happening besides it being stolen/abandoned is that the person tried to walk out and never made it, as the AZOD topic stated. That being the case, I wonder if some of you wouldn't know where the person may have tried to walk to get help? Any ideas?

[vtchopper]

The Sheeps Crossing bridge is on Seven Springs road, which is north on Bartlett lake, maybe she has her lakes confused..

She also stated that her cousin has been missing for three months, the club found this XJ a few weeks ago, probly not the same Jeep

[xFallen]

Not an offroad fourwheeling person and don't know the area by any means but thought I'd put my $.02 it. I was thinking, maybe the back window was broken by the person who wrecked it (assuming it wasn't stolen) and the plate either taken by that person or someone else who could have gone to report it. The only thing I could thing of happening besides it being stolen/abandoned is that the person tried to walk out and never made it, as the AZOD topic stated. That being the case, I wonder if some of you wouldn't know where the person may have tried to walk to get help? Any ideas?

The place where the white Cherokee was found is approximately five miles as the road goes (4.0 as the crow flies) West from the I-17 Table Mesa interchange. There is no geographic feature with "sheep" in the name on that side of I-17 that I see on any maps. Note that this "trail" cannot be easily construed as a road by anyone but an off-road entusiast's standards. To get onto this trail means leaving a perfectly good gravel road.

Someone walking out from that area would hopefully go East toward the highway. There is traffic from the gravel pit and the ranch in the area but who knows if someone would have seen anything. If someone walked West from there they would have headed deeper into the backcountry. There is really nothing back in there except free range cattle and mines.

It doesn't sounds like this is the vehicle you'r etrying to find, but maybe the Yavapai Sheriff's office knows more. I think someone from this board may have contacted them to enquire about extracting the vehicle to get it off the trail.


Barry

[FrenchChili]

So, any of you going there than going to the FJ meeting???? Or is there no time for both???

[FrenchChili]

Going to FJ pre-meeting & meeting so I can't go...

[flexinxj]

I should be there about 9:00 i have a 8274 winch with 145 feet of cable and a snatch block so i hope i can help

Jason (480)797-2518

[flexinxj]

all cleaned up and gone to the wrecking yard, the Tacoma guys, me, and Troy from Toys By Troy, were all out and got it all cleaned up, can't tell it was even there. I didn't get pics but it was ugly tryin to get it out, it was wedged good. the poor jeep was extremely mangled when it was all said and done. turns out the jeep was stolen for sure though, i don't think the owners will want it back.....:eek:

Jason

[Markos]

People Suck!

[Stu Olson]

Jason,

Troy gave me a call this afternoon to see how the land use meeting had gone and to tell me the XJ was removed. It sounded like you guys went through a fair amount of rags/paper towels getting the mess cleaned up. Glad to hear it was removed and no one was injured while doing so.

Thank you for your hard work.

[RokNRich]

yeah, thanks dude. This thread made me sick.............................

[D-Dub]

Are the owners getting it back?

[flexinxj]

well i think the only part left for the owners, if they want it would be the bolts or something, it was pretty tore up.

jason