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19420 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 6:22pm
Subject: Re: Re: Engine Upgrade
Ron what size tires do you plan on running? You might find you are
better off with a 3.5 lift and only have to do the lift once. I run a
superlift on 89 YJ with Rancho 9000 shocks. I am happy with it.
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Johnson" <bearshouse@s...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Eric Herring" <herring@q...>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
> Can anyone tell what brand suspension lift kit is the best? Looking to put
a
> 21/2" on 90 YJ. Can anyone tell me of their experiences with the Off Road
> Shop at Broadway just west of Extension in Mesa?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Herring" <herring@q...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 2:36 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
>
>
> > It is a major undertaking. you will also need the transmission,
> > transfer case & to modify the firewall (later cherokees had a
> > recessed firewall so the 4.0L would fit). A much easier conversion
> > would be a GM 3.4L it's almost a bolt in. You can find the info on
> > the 3.4 conversion at off-road.com
> >
> > Eric Herring 92XJ
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Chris R." <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> > > A friend recently bought a used 84 XJ with the 2.8(5 speed) in it.
> > He has
> > > found a good deal on a 4.0L out of an 92 Wrangler, auto with
> > computer that
> > > his is thinking about moving into his. What things other than what
> > I have
> > > listed below should we look into as far as the swap?
> > >
> > > Motor and trannny Mounts
> > > Driveline ends and lengths
> > > Wiring up the new computer and the gauges(original may not work)
> > > Radiator
> > > Gearing in the axles
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> > > My1stJeep@e...
> > > '97 TJ
> > > ___
> > > [___]
> > > -(O|||||O)-
> > > =======
> > > [||]----O--[||]
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask
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19421 From: Ron Johnson <bearshouse@s...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 6:24pm
Subject: Re: Re: Engine Upgrade
I plan to run 32"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hackle" <hackle@u...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
> Ron what size tires do you plan on running? You might find you are
> better off with a 3.5 lift and only have to do the lift once. I run a
> superlift on 89 YJ with Rancho 9000 shocks. I am happy with it.
>
> I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Johnson" <bearshouse@s...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Eric Herring" <herring@q...>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 6:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
>
>
> > Can anyone tell what brand suspension lift kit is the best? Looking to
put
> a
> > 21/2" on 90 YJ. Can anyone tell me of their experiences with the Off
Road
> > Shop at Broadway just west of Extension in Mesa?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eric Herring" <herring@q...>
> > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 2:36 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
> >
> >
> > > It is a major undertaking. you will also need the transmission,
> > > transfer case & to modify the firewall (later cherokees had a
> > > recessed firewall so the 4.0L would fit). A much easier conversion
> > > would be a GM 3.4L it's almost a bolt in. You can find the info on
> > > the 3.4 conversion at off-road.com
> > >
> > > Eric Herring 92XJ
> > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Chris R." <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> > > > A friend recently bought a used 84 XJ with the 2.8(5 speed) in it.
> > > He has
> > > > found a good deal on a 4.0L out of an 92 Wrangler, auto with
> > > computer that
> > > > his is thinking about moving into his. What things other than what
> > > I have
> > > > listed below should we look into as far as the swap?
> > > >
> > > > Motor and trannny Mounts
> > > > Driveline ends and lengths
> > > > Wiring up the new computer and the gauges(original may not work)
> > > > Radiator
> > > > Gearing in the axles
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > > http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> > > > My1stJeep@e...
> > > > '97 TJ
> > > > ___
> > > > [___]
> > > > -(O|||||O)-
> > > > =======
> > > > [||]----O--[||]
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask
> > > remains a
> > > > fool forever."
> > > >
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19422 From: <eandkm@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 6:21pm
Subject: Re: WOO HOO !! new jeep
Congrats on the xj! Join our xj site for all your info.
Erin
Fourwhlcrzy@aol.com wrote:
got me a new cherokee sport saturday! couldn't resist 1.9% finance. I am
total stranger to XJs. I have every catalog in world for CJ and YJ stuff ,
where do you get accessories for XJ? I was laying under it and the first
thing I saw lacking was skid plates. Is the gas tank really plastic?I would
appreciate links to stuff so i can start building .Thanks
Daren
52 M-38 in pieces
01 XJ bone stock
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19423 From: ebnhils <ebnhils@e...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 7:05pm
Subject: Re: D30 Locker Question - Help
Dan,
You will need to remove the carrier and the ring gear with 4.10s or you
can grind some of one of the teeth of the ring gear the remove the shaft.
You will not need to mess with back lash or any other settings unless you
replace the gears or remove the pinion gear. Removing the carrier will take
some doing as it will come out vary hard. I think that most use a winch to
pull the carrier out. Others may some better ideals.
Eben
92 YJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 3:44 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] D30 Locker Question - Help
> Do you have to pull the carrier in order to remove the cross shaft
> for a D30 with 4.11s in a TJ?
>
> I can do about everything else, but am not comforatable removing the
> carrier as I have zero knowledge on setting backlash, etc when
> reinstalling it. Just want to know before I waste some time and diff
> fluid opening it up only to find out I have to take it to the shop.
>
> BTW, I installed my rear locker, D35C and didn't have to pull the
> carrier.
> Thanks
> Dan
>
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19424 From: <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 6:59pm
Subject: RE adjustable track bar install question
I have a bag of bolt/nut/spacer assembly pieces for the heim end of
my track bar and I'm wondering how the spacers should be oriented
(they are both tapered on one end). I'm guessing these go on either
side of the frame piece with the tapered ends against the frame
piece. Also I assume the threaded end of the bolt should be on the
high side. Since there is no cotter pin to hold the nut in place, is
it necessary or advisable to use lock tight?
Thanks for any help,
Larry
19425 From: <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 7:01pm
Subject: Re: RE adjustable track bar install question
That "RE" is Rubicon Express as opposed to "Re"ply. :-)
--- In az_vjc@y..., highupjeep@q... wrote:
> I have a bag of bolt/nut/spacer assembly pieces for the heim end of
> my track bar and I'm wondering how the spacers should be oriented
> (they are both tapered on one end). I'm guessing these go on either
> side of the frame piece with the tapered ends against the frame
> piece. Also I assume the threaded end of the bolt should be on the
> high side. Since there is no cotter pin to hold the nut in place,
is
> it necessary or advisable to use lock tight?
> Thanks for any help,
> Larry
19426 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 7:04pm
Subject: Re: RE adjustable track bar install question
The smaller tappered ends of the spacers go against the heim. The nut is
self locking...but lock tight is a good idea. The nut for the bolt goes on
the high side of the frame mount. Torque it to at least 175 lbs (on the
frame end) to keep it in place.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <highupjeep@q...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 7:59 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] RE adjustable track bar install question
> I have a bag of bolt/nut/spacer assembly pieces for the heim end of
> my track bar and I'm wondering how the spacers should be oriented
> (they are both tapered on one end). I'm guessing these go on either
> side of the frame piece with the tapered ends against the frame
> piece. Also I assume the threaded end of the bolt should be on the
> high side. Since there is no cotter pin to hold the nut in place, is
> it necessary or advisable to use lock tight?
> Thanks for any help,
> Larry
>
>
>
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19427 From: <dirtdog@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 7:22pm
Subject: For Sale parts out of a 85 CJ-7
For Sale parts out of a 85 CJ-7
Advance Adapters Bellhousing adapter
AMC engines to GM NV4500(1992-1995 6.34 1st) $150
4 core radiator $100
alternator 65amp (NAPA)
more to come as I figure out what won't work with a SBC
conversion
258 Engine and Fuel Injection already gone
Bernie Southerland
M-F 6:30-3:00
480-785-4211
19428 From: <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 7:36pm
Subject: Re: RE adjustable track bar install question
Thanks Doug. The written instructions were not that detailed. Glad I
asked.
Larry
--- In az_vjc@y..., "DougB" <azjeep@h...> wrote:
> The smaller tappered ends of the spacers go against the heim. The
nut is
> self locking...but lock tight is a good idea. The nut for the bolt
goes on
> the high side of the frame mount. Torque it to at least 175 lbs (on
the
> frame end) to keep it in place.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <highupjeep@q...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 7:59 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] RE adjustable track bar install question
>
>
> > I have a bag of bolt/nut/spacer assembly pieces for the heim end
of
> > my track bar and I'm wondering how the spacers should be oriented
> > (they are both tapered on one end). I'm guessing these go on
either
> > side of the frame piece with the tapered ends against the frame
> > piece. Also I assume the threaded end of the bolt should be on the
> > high side. Since there is no cotter pin to hold the nut in place,
is
> > it necessary or advisable to use lock tight?
> > Thanks for any help,
> > Larry
> >
> >
> >
> >
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19429 From: David O'Boyle <davidoboyle@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 8:05pm
Subject: Re: Maps and places to go (Buckeye hills)
I live in Buckeye and know the hills out here like the back of my hand.
Wanna make a run??
Sunday is good for me.
let me know and I'll figure out a good route for the equipted or unequiped
rigs.. Just let me know what trail ratings you like..
Later
Dave
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19430 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 7:51pm
Subject: Re: Re: Engine Upgrade
I would go with the 3.5 it is usually about the same price as 2.5 and if
you decide to go to 33's later you will only need a body lift or a short
shackle lift to make it work. In the long run the 3.5 will save you money.
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Johnson" <bearshouse@s...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Hackle" <hackle@u...>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
> I plan to run 32"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hackle" <hackle@u...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 7:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
>
>
> > Ron what size tires do you plan on running? You might find you are
> > better off with a 3.5 lift and only have to do the lift once. I run a
> > superlift on 89 YJ with Rancho 9000 shocks. I am happy with it.
> >
> > I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Johnson" <bearshouse@s...>
> > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Eric Herring" <herring@q...>
> > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 6:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
> >
> >
> > > Can anyone tell what brand suspension lift kit is the best? Looking to
> put
> > a
> > > 21/2" on 90 YJ. Can anyone tell me of their experiences with the Off
> Road
> > > Shop at Broadway just west of Extension in Mesa?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Eric Herring" <herring@q...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 2:36 PM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
> > >
> > >
> > > > It is a major undertaking. you will also need the transmission,
> > > > transfer case & to modify the firewall (later cherokees had a
> > > > recessed firewall so the 4.0L would fit). A much easier conversion
> > > > would be a GM 3.4L it's almost a bolt in. You can find the info on
> > > > the 3.4 conversion at off-road.com
> > > >
> > > > Eric Herring 92XJ
> > > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Chris R." <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> > > > > A friend recently bought a used 84 XJ with the 2.8(5 speed) in it.
> > > > He has
> > > > > found a good deal on a 4.0L out of an 92 Wrangler, auto with
> > > > computer that
> > > > > his is thinking about moving into his. What things other than
what
> > > > I have
> > > > > listed below should we look into as far as the swap?
> > > > >
> > > > > Motor and trannny Mounts
> > > > > Driveline ends and lengths
> > > > > Wiring up the new computer and the gauges(original may not work)
> > > > > Radiator
> > > > > Gearing in the axles
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
> > > > > http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> > > > > My1stJeep@e...
> > > > > '97 TJ
> > > > > ___
> > > > > [___]
> > > > > -(O|||||O)-
> > > > > =======
> > > > > [||]----O--[||]
> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > > "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask
> > > > remains a
> > > > > fool forever."
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19431 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 8:15pm
Subject: Re: [arizonaXJ] Re: Parts Washer
But I hate the oily film diesal leaves.
linda luik wrote:
>
> You can always use diesel. It is less flamable (harder to ignite) than
> solvent. Plus (like my boyfriend says) you get that sweet aroma of #2
> diesel!
>
> Linda
>
> "Leonard K. Pennock" wrote:
> >
> > I'm thinking of buying the 20 gallon Parts washer that Harbor Freight
> > has on sale. Does anyone know were can I get solvent to use in this
> > thing? Any idea how bad the solvent evaporation rate is when the hood
> > is closed? It doesn't look like it is real well sealed.
> >
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19432 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 8:17pm
Subject: Re: Parts Washer
I got some of that Super Degreaser they sell, the problem is I don't
like using water based solvents on things like bearings and
differentials. Might not be a good reason but those are the last things
I want a possibility of rusting.
chiena wrote:
>
> Harbor Freight also sells parts washer solvent. Most parts washer solvent is
> water based these days so you could use Simple Green...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leonard K. Pennock" <leonardpennock@h...>
> To: "Arizona XJ" <arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com>; "AZ Virtual Jeep Club"
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 8:44 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Parts Washer
>
> > I'm thinking of buying the 20 gallon Parts washer that Harbor Freight
> > has on sale. Does anyone know were can I get solvent to use in this
> > thing? Any idea how bad the solvent evaporation rate is when the hood
> > is closed? It doesn't look like it is real well sealed.
> >
> > --
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> >
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19433 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 3:41pm
Subject: who's going?
Is anyone planning on going to the Tierra del Sol Safari this weekend, Im
planning on leaving friday and was thinking of a caravan if possible.
Thanks
Sharky
19434 From: David O'Boyle <davidoboyle@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 9:07pm
Subject: Re: Maps and places to go (Buckeye hills)
Actually sunday has been booked after all. Maybe in a few weeks we can hook
up out here....
Later
Dave
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19435 From: tom le <tomle_85024@y...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 9:49pm
Subject: check out my recent upgrades on my '94 ZJ
All,
Check out my photo album below for my recent upgrades
(8" RE lift w/ skyjacker pitman arm drop and 36" super
swamper TSL tires. Now I've done it and so far it is
very little noticable compared to BFG M/T tires on
road. Will go offroad soon after a minor fender
trimming & rear shock mounting extension brackets are
installed.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1345035&a=10579430
Any comments & inputs are greatly appreciated.
Tom
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19436 From: Brent Lizakowski <brent_lizakowski@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 10:02pm
Subject: Re: RE adjustable track bar install question
Be sure and use red locktite. But, before you put it on, be sure your
track bar is adjusted right. You'll have a heck of a time getting
that nut off if it cures up.
19437 From: Chris and Cindi Gaiser <ccgaiser@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 10:22pm
Subject: Ignition Cut-off
I pulled the ign switch off the column and found the wire marked for the "run" lead. Then as a test, I tried to start the truck then and it cranked but did not run. I also used the same color wire that was used for the switch so it doesn't stand out.
If you don't know which wire to cut. You might be able to pull the sw off the column, they are usually labeled, or stop by a dealer to see if they have one in stock and look at it. Then remember the position of the wire and try it out.
Hope this helps! I know it saved my truck twice... :->
Chris
'66 CJ under construction!
19438 From: Ray B. <kb7skv@c...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 11:52pm
Subject: Re: TR - Bartlett Lake rollover -- part 2 - the roll
Good reports guys...Keep up the good work!!
Ray (NR.EMT-B...slightly expired)
Len Sullivan wrote:
> While the rest of us had lunch, one of the Blazer drivers (Kevin) did some
> carb work to his truck. He had only bought it one week earlier, and this
> was it's first time off pavement with him. It ran fine when it was level,
> but every bump made it stall and hill climbs required a lot of throttle to
> keep the engine from loading up and stalling out. Kevin had the top off of
> his Blazer, and had installed an extra bucket seat in the back so that it
> would seat 5 people. The 4 folks in the RV all piled in with him when we
> left to go out for another trail ride after lunch.
>
> Instead of hitting the trails next to the campsite, we headed back down the
> beach to hook up with some of the other trails in the area. Pam, Nathan,
> and I were in the #6 spot of our convoy with Dominic+Amanda and Mike+his
> family+Kathy behind us. Kevin was bringing up the rear with his friend Otto
> (from the RV), Otto's wife, their daughter and her boyfriend with him.
>
> About 1/3 of the way from the campsite to the entrance the lake-side path we
> were on had a fork in it. One path followed the beach and was nice and
> smooth.....the other fork went up over a saddle and followed along in a mild
> off camber side hill leaning towards the lower part of the trail. The
> vehicles in front of me all took the low road, but I had seen Mike drive
> over the saddle on the way in and wanted to try it for myself. The saddle
> was only about 8 feet tall, but the side I was approaching from was steep
> enough that I was worried about my front tow hook scraping as I approached
> it. Anybody who has been on a trail ride with me has seen me hanging out
> the window as I climb things, and this time was no different. Once I
> started climbing the saddle my hood blocked all forward visibility, so I
> just hung out the side and followed the contour of the hill through the very
> slight left turn required at the top and continued on down the off camber
> (to the drivers side) side hill trail to where it reconnected with the main
> path. Dominic came over behind me, then Mike also came up and over the
> saddle.
>
> I watched over my shoulder until I saw the front of Kevin's Blazer crest the
> saddle, then went back to my own driving. Just a second later, I heard a
> horrendous CRASH from behind me. Looking over my shoulder again, I saw
> Kevin's Blazer sitting on its roof halfway between the top path and the
> bottom path. As I watched, the Blazer rolled over down the hill onto the
> passenger side, spilling out three people and all of the parts and coolers
> that were in the back. Pam also heard the crash and saw part of the roll.
> She bailed out the passenger side of my truck and was running back along the
> beach before I even got the truck stopped and turned off. Once my truck was
> secure, I also sprinted back to see what kind of carnage there was.
>
> The scene when I got to the accident is still kind of a blur. I remember
> running around through the pile of people trying to see who was hurt and how
> badly. Since the Blazer did not have the top on and only had a roll bar
> (not a cage), I expected to find some pretty serious
> injuries........possibly deaths. Otto had already popped out throught the
> windshield opening and was checking on his family. His wife was dazed, but
> was sitting up apparently unhurt. Likewise with his daughter's boyfriend.
> His daughter however, was lying on the ground not moving and obviously in
> great pain. Kevin was still stuck inside the cab of the Blazer.
>
> I honestly don't remember anyone else coming to the scene, but suddenly
> there was a croud of people all trying to help. By the time I finished
> locating all of the passengers, Pam was already working on the Christy (the
> daughter). Kevin was pretty well beat up but was able to climb out throught
> the windshield opening by himself. We got all of the passengers seated in a
> group and started checking them out. Otto, his wife, and his daughters
> boyfriend all just had a few minor scrapes and bruises. Several other
> people were assisting Pam with caring for Christy, so Amanda and I started
> looking after Kevin. Even though he had been bounced around the cab and had
> hit his head pretty hard, he was more concerned with everyone else than with
> himself and wanted to go help. He was bleeding from his head injury, so
> keeping him quiet and calm was imperative. We made a big deal of bandaging
> a small cut on his elbow mainly so that we'd have an excuse to keep him
> sitting down.
>
> I really have to say at this point how proud I am of Pam and the way she
> handled the emergency. She identified Christy as the most seriously hurt
> person even before I had completed my running inspection (injuries, possible
> vehicle fire, etc) and took charge of her care immediately. She had help
> from several other people, and I knew that if she needed me she was let me
> know, so I went on to other things. She was perfect. Clear orders, proper
> emergency procedures, all of it. When the paramedics arrived, she had
> Christy immobilized and was able to give a full report of definate and
> possible injuries complete with vitals, pupil responses, motor
> control.....the works.
>
> The guy in the Dodge Ram had raced up the beach to a call box and summoned
> help when the rollover first occurred. The first response was from a county
> Sheriff, followed closely by a Forest Service paramedic. The Forest Service
> medic had driven so hard to get there that his brakes were almost on
> fire......we could smell them from 50 feet away. With the official
> emergency personell on site, the rest of us dropped back out of the way and
> let them do their job while we secured the area. Mike's wife Laurie took
> charge of all the kids, some other people started picking up all the debris
> from the rollover, and about 6 others (including Mike and I) started looking
> after the Blazer.
>
> The Blazer was still sitting on its passenger side and was dumping fluids at
> an alarming rate........most importantly gasoline out of the filler neck.
> After running a tow strap from it to another vehicle to keep it from sliding
> into the water, a bunch of us pushed it back over onto it's wheels. Mike
> grabbed a shovel and started burying the spilled gasoline to reduce fire
> danger. At one time I counted 6 different fire extinguishers spread out on
> the ground around the truck, so everyone was very aware of the possible
> danger.
>
> A Scottsdale Rural Metro ambulance showed up a little while after the Forest
> Service medic, but they decided that with Christy's possible spinal injuries
> and Kevin's head injury it would be best to fly both of them out. The
> MedEvac choppers only hold 1 patient, so 2 different helicopters had to be
> called in to fly them into town. Otto and the rest of the family were in
> good enough shape to drive themselves to the hospital, so they headed back
> to the campsite to get their RV and drive out with Pam accompanying them.
>
> Injury totals:
>
> Christy fell out of the back of the Blazer when it was upside down, landing
> on her head and neck. As she fell out, her legs were tangled in the seat
> just enough to cause her to do the splits when she hit which resulted in the
> dislocation of both of her hips. She also received a cut behind her left
> ear and a patch of "road rash" that extended from her chest to her knees.
> Her hips popped back into place while she was being placed onto the back
> board. The head injury required 8 stitches. No broken bones.
>
> Otto's wife received only minor scrapes and bruises.
>
> Christy's boyfriend was uninjured.
>
> Otto and Kevin (in the front seats) were not wearing seatbelts, so they fell
> on each other as the truck rolled. Both of them are pretty big
> boys.....Kevin weighs in at 275 and Otto is even larger. Otto has some
> bruises and a couple of cuts from crawling out through the windshield
> opening, but no other injuries.
>
> Kevin bruised both thighs when he hit the steering wheel, and has an egg
> sized knot on his head and a mild concussion from hitting a metal grab
> handle inside the cab.
>
> Both Kevin and Christy had been released from the hospital by the time I got
> there.
>
> The accident:
>
> It wasn't until after everyone else was gone that I really got a chance to
> talk with Mike about what really happened. Mike was in front of Kevin and
> saw the whole thing in his rear view mirror. Remember the slight left turn
> I mentioned at the top of the saddle? Apparently Kevin wasn't able to see
> the turn and went straight up the saddle. When he didn't turn, his
> passenger side front tire continued climbing up the side of the saddle onto
> a rock shelf while the drivers side started down the back side of the saddle
> and into a rut that had been formed in the trail. This put the passenger
> side almost 6 feet higher than the drivers side in less than a second. At
> the height of the travel on the passenger side, the beads blew out on BOTH
> drivers side tires and over it went.
>
> On the way home that night, I had a long talk with Kathy and Nathan (my
> kids) about the accident so that they would understand it and not be
> frightened. We talked about the injuries and the actual mechanism of how
> and why the truck rolled over. The second really proud moment of the day
> came when the kids told me why they thought it had happened:
>
> Kathy (age 9): "He didn't get out and look at the hill like you
> do.......and he didn't have somebody stand there and direct him either."
>
> Nathan (age 7): "He was going to fast too........he should have put it in 4
> low"
>
> And most important (from both of them): "They should have been wearing
> their seatbelts like we do"
>
> 'Nuff said.
>
> tomorrow part 3.......the recovery
>
>
>
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19439 From: Nick Notestine <nnote@n...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 11:02pm
Subject: Parts washer
Simple green would probably work as a good washer fluid.
Nick
Nnote at neta dot com
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19440 From: Rick Hall <ricknhall@h...>
Date: Tue Feb 27, 2001 4:02am
Subject: XJ Lift
I was going to the wrenching party this weekend but it looks like I'll be
wrenching my own 3" lift for my wife's Cherokee ... any tips/tricks to make
the install easier would be appreciated. Here are the details:
99XJ
Auto
8.25 rear 30 front w/3.55's and tracklock (no mods, I removed the
shackle/spacer lift I had earlier)
Here are the components to the lift:
front springs, front lower control arms, trac arm drop down bracket, rear
add-a-leafs
This is a 3" kit, I already have the tcase lower kit, longer shocks and
longer UBolts.
TIA
Rick
ricknhall@h...
19441 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Tue Feb 27, 2001 6:06am
Subject: Re: D30 Locker Question - Help
I would NOT grind the gears. Great way to ruin a perfectly good set of gears.
Remove the carrier with a REALLY big pry bar and using your legs as the muscle.
Hook it into the carrier area or something convenient. If you keep the bear
races on the correct side, oriented corrected (up end up, and down end down),
then you won't have any problems. Sounds like your putting in a lockright or
something like that, so you won't have to worry about mixing up the carrier
bearings since they are pressed on and the carrier only goes in one way. I
believe you will need to remove the ring gear to get the cross shaft out.
Again, not a big deal. I wouldn't even worry about getting the ring gear back
on with the holes in the exact same spot. Not an issue. If you put the bearing
caps back on in the right place, you should be good to go.
Just as a side note, be sure to replace your axle seals. If you don't, they are
nearly guaranteed to leak. For whatever reason, once you pull that axle out and
disturb the seal to axle interface, then it doesn't want to seal back up (most
of the time). I have learned the hard way as I am sure many other on the list
have done as well.
Overall it shouldn't be a problem.................
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19442 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Tue Feb 27, 2001 6:09am
Subject: Re: For Sale parts out of a 85 CJ-7
Powersteering pump from 6 cylinder won't work. Will need a new Chevy style.
High pressure hose to steering may need to be custom made. I was able to use
the AMC stock one, but the routing was not ideal.
This was just one thing that came to mind while reading your post about other
things that you may find that won't work with the SBC.
--
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Jay Eller
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19443 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Tue Feb 27, 2001 6:14am
Subject: Re: check out my recent upgrades on my '94 ZJ
Looks great!!! Excellent looking ZJ!
--
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19444 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Tue Feb 27, 2001 6:22am
Subject: bad decals
If anyone is interested, I have 200 decals without the Arizona printed on them. Printers mistake and they are reprinting them for me. They didn't want these returned so if anyone can think of a good use for them, please let me know.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=22547&a=905123&p=42169067
Jon Loveless
(480) 816-6240
19420 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 6:22pm
Subject: Re: Re: Engine Upgrade
Ron what size tires do you plan on running? You might find you are
better off with a 3.5 lift and only have to do the lift once. I run a
superlift on 89 YJ with Rancho 9000 shocks. I am happy with it.
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Johnson" <bearshouse@s...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Eric Herring" <herring@q...>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
> Can anyone tell what brand suspension lift kit is the best? Looking to put
a
> 21/2" on 90 YJ. Can anyone tell me of their experiences with the Off Road
> Shop at Broadway just west of Extension in Mesa?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Herring" <herring@q...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 2:36 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
>
>
> > It is a major undertaking. you will also need the transmission,
> > transfer case & to modify the firewall (later cherokees had a
> > recessed firewall so the 4.0L would fit). A much easier conversion
> > would be a GM 3.4L it's almost a bolt in. You can find the info on
> > the 3.4 conversion at off-road.com
> >
> > Eric Herring 92XJ
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Chris R." <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> > > A friend recently bought a used 84 XJ with the 2.8(5 speed) in it.
> > He has
> > > found a good deal on a 4.0L out of an 92 Wrangler, auto with
> > computer that
> > > his is thinking about moving into his. What things other than what
> > I have
> > > listed below should we look into as far as the swap?
> > >
> > > Motor and trannny Mounts
> > > Driveline ends and lengths
> > > Wiring up the new computer and the gauges(original may not work)
> > > Radiator
> > > Gearing in the axles
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
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19421 From: Ron Johnson <bearshouse@s...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 6:24pm
Subject: Re: Re: Engine Upgrade
I plan to run 32"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hackle" <hackle@u...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
> Ron what size tires do you plan on running? You might find you are
> better off with a 3.5 lift and only have to do the lift once. I run a
> superlift on 89 YJ with Rancho 9000 shocks. I am happy with it.
>
> I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Johnson" <bearshouse@s...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Eric Herring" <herring@q...>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 6:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
>
>
> > Can anyone tell what brand suspension lift kit is the best? Looking to
put
> a
> > 21/2" on 90 YJ. Can anyone tell me of their experiences with the Off
Road
> > Shop at Broadway just west of Extension in Mesa?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eric Herring" <herring@q...>
> > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 2:36 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
> >
> >
> > > It is a major undertaking. you will also need the transmission,
> > > transfer case & to modify the firewall (later cherokees had a
> > > recessed firewall so the 4.0L would fit). A much easier conversion
> > > would be a GM 3.4L it's almost a bolt in. You can find the info on
> > > the 3.4 conversion at off-road.com
> > >
> > > Eric Herring 92XJ
> > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Chris R." <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> > > > A friend recently bought a used 84 XJ with the 2.8(5 speed) in it.
> > > He has
> > > > found a good deal on a 4.0L out of an 92 Wrangler, auto with
> > > computer that
> > > > his is thinking about moving into his. What things other than what
> > > I have
> > > > listed below should we look into as far as the swap?
> > > >
> > > > Motor and trannny Mounts
> > > > Driveline ends and lengths
> > > > Wiring up the new computer and the gauges(original may not work)
> > > > Radiator
> > > > Gearing in the axles
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > > http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> > > > My1stJeep@e...
> > > > '97 TJ
> > > > ___
> > > > [___]
> > > > -(O|||||O)-
> > > > =======
> > > > [||]----O--[||]
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > > > "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask
> > > remains a
> > > > fool forever."
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> > > >
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19422 From: <eandkm@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 6:21pm
Subject: Re: WOO HOO !! new jeep
Congrats on the xj! Join our xj site for all your info.
Erin
Fourwhlcrzy@aol.com wrote:
got me a new cherokee sport saturday! couldn't resist 1.9% finance. I am
total stranger to XJs. I have every catalog in world for CJ and YJ stuff ,
where do you get accessories for XJ? I was laying under it and the first
thing I saw lacking was skid plates. Is the gas tank really plastic?I would
appreciate links to stuff so i can start building .Thanks
Daren
52 M-38 in pieces
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19423 From: ebnhils <ebnhils@e...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 7:05pm
Subject: Re: D30 Locker Question - Help
Dan,
You will need to remove the carrier and the ring gear with 4.10s or you
can grind some of one of the teeth of the ring gear the remove the shaft.
You will not need to mess with back lash or any other settings unless you
replace the gears or remove the pinion gear. Removing the carrier will take
some doing as it will come out vary hard. I think that most use a winch to
pull the carrier out. Others may some better ideals.
Eben
92 YJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 3:44 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] D30 Locker Question - Help
> Do you have to pull the carrier in order to remove the cross shaft
> for a D30 with 4.11s in a TJ?
>
> I can do about everything else, but am not comforatable removing the
> carrier as I have zero knowledge on setting backlash, etc when
> reinstalling it. Just want to know before I waste some time and diff
> fluid opening it up only to find out I have to take it to the shop.
>
> BTW, I installed my rear locker, D35C and didn't have to pull the
> carrier.
> Thanks
> Dan
>
>
>
>
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19424 From: <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 6:59pm
Subject: RE adjustable track bar install question
I have a bag of bolt/nut/spacer assembly pieces for the heim end of
my track bar and I'm wondering how the spacers should be oriented
(they are both tapered on one end). I'm guessing these go on either
side of the frame piece with the tapered ends against the frame
piece. Also I assume the threaded end of the bolt should be on the
high side. Since there is no cotter pin to hold the nut in place, is
it necessary or advisable to use lock tight?
Thanks for any help,
Larry
19425 From: <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 7:01pm
Subject: Re: RE adjustable track bar install question
That "RE" is Rubicon Express as opposed to "Re"ply. :-)
--- In az_vjc@y..., highupjeep@q... wrote:
> I have a bag of bolt/nut/spacer assembly pieces for the heim end of
> my track bar and I'm wondering how the spacers should be oriented
> (they are both tapered on one end). I'm guessing these go on either
> side of the frame piece with the tapered ends against the frame
> piece. Also I assume the threaded end of the bolt should be on the
> high side. Since there is no cotter pin to hold the nut in place,
is
> it necessary or advisable to use lock tight?
> Thanks for any help,
> Larry
19426 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 7:04pm
Subject: Re: RE adjustable track bar install question
The smaller tappered ends of the spacers go against the heim. The nut is
self locking...but lock tight is a good idea. The nut for the bolt goes on
the high side of the frame mount. Torque it to at least 175 lbs (on the
frame end) to keep it in place.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <highupjeep@q...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 7:59 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] RE adjustable track bar install question
> I have a bag of bolt/nut/spacer assembly pieces for the heim end of
> my track bar and I'm wondering how the spacers should be oriented
> (they are both tapered on one end). I'm guessing these go on either
> side of the frame piece with the tapered ends against the frame
> piece. Also I assume the threaded end of the bolt should be on the
> high side. Since there is no cotter pin to hold the nut in place, is
> it necessary or advisable to use lock tight?
> Thanks for any help,
> Larry
>
>
>
>
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19427 From: <dirtdog@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 7:22pm
Subject: For Sale parts out of a 85 CJ-7
For Sale parts out of a 85 CJ-7
Advance Adapters Bellhousing adapter
AMC engines to GM NV4500(1992-1995 6.34 1st) $150
4 core radiator $100
alternator 65amp (NAPA)
more to come as I figure out what won't work with a SBC
conversion
258 Engine and Fuel Injection already gone
Bernie Southerland
M-F 6:30-3:00
480-785-4211
19428 From: <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 7:36pm
Subject: Re: RE adjustable track bar install question
Thanks Doug. The written instructions were not that detailed. Glad I
asked.
Larry
--- In az_vjc@y..., "DougB" <azjeep@h...> wrote:
> The smaller tappered ends of the spacers go against the heim. The
nut is
> self locking...but lock tight is a good idea. The nut for the bolt
goes on
> the high side of the frame mount. Torque it to at least 175 lbs (on
the
> frame end) to keep it in place.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <highupjeep@q...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 7:59 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] RE adjustable track bar install question
>
>
> > I have a bag of bolt/nut/spacer assembly pieces for the heim end
of
> > my track bar and I'm wondering how the spacers should be oriented
> > (they are both tapered on one end). I'm guessing these go on
either
> > side of the frame piece with the tapered ends against the frame
> > piece. Also I assume the threaded end of the bolt should be on the
> > high side. Since there is no cotter pin to hold the nut in place,
is
> > it necessary or advisable to use lock tight?
> > Thanks for any help,
> > Larry
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
19429 From: David O'Boyle <davidoboyle@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 8:05pm
Subject: Re: Maps and places to go (Buckeye hills)
I live in Buckeye and know the hills out here like the back of my hand.
Wanna make a run??
Sunday is good for me.
let me know and I'll figure out a good route for the equipted or unequiped
rigs.. Just let me know what trail ratings you like..
Later
Dave
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19430 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 7:51pm
Subject: Re: Re: Engine Upgrade
I would go with the 3.5 it is usually about the same price as 2.5 and if
you decide to go to 33's later you will only need a body lift or a short
shackle lift to make it work. In the long run the 3.5 will save you money.
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Johnson" <bearshouse@s...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Hackle" <hackle@u...>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
> I plan to run 32"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hackle" <hackle@u...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 7:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
>
>
> > Ron what size tires do you plan on running? You might find you are
> > better off with a 3.5 lift and only have to do the lift once. I run a
> > superlift on 89 YJ with Rancho 9000 shocks. I am happy with it.
> >
> > I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Johnson" <bearshouse@s...>
> > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Eric Herring" <herring@q...>
> > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 6:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
> >
> >
> > > Can anyone tell what brand suspension lift kit is the best? Looking to
> put
> > a
> > > 21/2" on 90 YJ. Can anyone tell me of their experiences with the Off
> Road
> > > Shop at Broadway just west of Extension in Mesa?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Eric Herring" <herring@q...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 2:36 PM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Engine Upgrade
> > >
> > >
> > > > It is a major undertaking. you will also need the transmission,
> > > > transfer case & to modify the firewall (later cherokees had a
> > > > recessed firewall so the 4.0L would fit). A much easier conversion
> > > > would be a GM 3.4L it's almost a bolt in. You can find the info on
> > > > the 3.4 conversion at off-road.com
> > > >
> > > > Eric Herring 92XJ
> > > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Chris R." <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> > > > > A friend recently bought a used 84 XJ with the 2.8(5 speed) in it.
> > > > He has
> > > > > found a good deal on a 4.0L out of an 92 Wrangler, auto with
> > > > computer that
> > > > > his is thinking about moving into his. What things other than
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> > > > > Driveline ends and lengths
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> > > > > Radiator
> > > > > Gearing in the axles
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19431 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 8:15pm
Subject: Re: [arizonaXJ] Re: Parts Washer
But I hate the oily film diesal leaves.
linda luik wrote:
>
> You can always use diesel. It is less flamable (harder to ignite) than
> solvent. Plus (like my boyfriend says) you get that sweet aroma of #2
> diesel!
>
> Linda
>
> "Leonard K. Pennock" wrote:
> >
> > I'm thinking of buying the 20 gallon Parts washer that Harbor Freight
> > has on sale. Does anyone know were can I get solvent to use in this
> > thing? Any idea how bad the solvent evaporation rate is when the hood
> > is closed? It doesn't look like it is real well sealed.
> >
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19432 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 8:17pm
Subject: Re: Parts Washer
I got some of that Super Degreaser they sell, the problem is I don't
like using water based solvents on things like bearings and
differentials. Might not be a good reason but those are the last things
I want a possibility of rusting.
chiena wrote:
>
> Harbor Freight also sells parts washer solvent. Most parts washer solvent is
> water based these days so you could use Simple Green...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leonard K. Pennock" <leonardpennock@h...>
> To: "Arizona XJ" <arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com>; "AZ Virtual Jeep Club"
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 8:44 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Parts Washer
>
> > I'm thinking of buying the 20 gallon Parts washer that Harbor Freight
> > has on sale. Does anyone know were can I get solvent to use in this
> > thing? Any idea how bad the solvent evaporation rate is when the hood
> > is closed? It doesn't look like it is real well sealed.
> >
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19433 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 3:41pm
Subject: who's going?
Is anyone planning on going to the Tierra del Sol Safari this weekend, Im
planning on leaving friday and was thinking of a caravan if possible.
Thanks
Sharky
19434 From: David O'Boyle <davidoboyle@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 9:07pm
Subject: Re: Maps and places to go (Buckeye hills)
Actually sunday has been booked after all. Maybe in a few weeks we can hook
up out here....
Later
Dave
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19435 From: tom le <tomle_85024@y...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 9:49pm
Subject: check out my recent upgrades on my '94 ZJ
All,
Check out my photo album below for my recent upgrades
(8" RE lift w/ skyjacker pitman arm drop and 36" super
swamper TSL tires. Now I've done it and so far it is
very little noticable compared to BFG M/T tires on
road. Will go offroad soon after a minor fender
trimming & rear shock mounting extension brackets are
installed.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1345035&a=10579430
Any comments & inputs are greatly appreciated.
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19436 From: Brent Lizakowski <brent_lizakowski@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 10:02pm
Subject: Re: RE adjustable track bar install question
Be sure and use red locktite. But, before you put it on, be sure your
track bar is adjusted right. You'll have a heck of a time getting
that nut off if it cures up.
19437 From: Chris and Cindi Gaiser <ccgaiser@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 10:22pm
Subject: Ignition Cut-off
I pulled the ign switch off the column and found the wire marked for the "run" lead. Then as a test, I tried to start the truck then and it cranked but did not run. I also used the same color wire that was used for the switch so it doesn't stand out.
If you don't know which wire to cut. You might be able to pull the sw off the column, they are usually labeled, or stop by a dealer to see if they have one in stock and look at it. Then remember the position of the wire and try it out.
Hope this helps! I know it saved my truck twice... :->
Chris
'66 CJ under construction!
19438 From: Ray B. <kb7skv@c...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 11:52pm
Subject: Re: TR - Bartlett Lake rollover -- part 2 - the roll
Good reports guys...Keep up the good work!!
Ray (NR.EMT-B...slightly expired)
Len Sullivan wrote:
> While the rest of us had lunch, one of the Blazer drivers (Kevin) did some
> carb work to his truck. He had only bought it one week earlier, and this
> was it's first time off pavement with him. It ran fine when it was level,
> but every bump made it stall and hill climbs required a lot of throttle to
> keep the engine from loading up and stalling out. Kevin had the top off of
> his Blazer, and had installed an extra bucket seat in the back so that it
> would seat 5 people. The 4 folks in the RV all piled in with him when we
> left to go out for another trail ride after lunch.
>
> Instead of hitting the trails next to the campsite, we headed back down the
> beach to hook up with some of the other trails in the area. Pam, Nathan,
> and I were in the #6 spot of our convoy with Dominic+Amanda and Mike+his
> family+Kathy behind us. Kevin was bringing up the rear with his friend Otto
> (from the RV), Otto's wife, their daughter and her boyfriend with him.
>
> About 1/3 of the way from the campsite to the entrance the lake-side path we
> were on had a fork in it. One path followed the beach and was nice and
> smooth.....the other fork went up over a saddle and followed along in a mild
> off camber side hill leaning towards the lower part of the trail. The
> vehicles in front of me all took the low road, but I had seen Mike drive
> over the saddle on the way in and wanted to try it for myself. The saddle
> was only about 8 feet tall, but the side I was approaching from was steep
> enough that I was worried about my front tow hook scraping as I approached
> it. Anybody who has been on a trail ride with me has seen me hanging out
> the window as I climb things, and this time was no different. Once I
> started climbing the saddle my hood blocked all forward visibility, so I
> just hung out the side and followed the contour of the hill through the very
> slight left turn required at the top and continued on down the off camber
> (to the drivers side) side hill trail to where it reconnected with the main
> path. Dominic came over behind me, then Mike also came up and over the
> saddle.
>
> I watched over my shoulder until I saw the front of Kevin's Blazer crest the
> saddle, then went back to my own driving. Just a second later, I heard a
> horrendous CRASH from behind me. Looking over my shoulder again, I saw
> Kevin's Blazer sitting on its roof halfway between the top path and the
> bottom path. As I watched, the Blazer rolled over down the hill onto the
> passenger side, spilling out three people and all of the parts and coolers
> that were in the back. Pam also heard the crash and saw part of the roll.
> She bailed out the passenger side of my truck and was running back along the
> beach before I even got the truck stopped and turned off. Once my truck was
> secure, I also sprinted back to see what kind of carnage there was.
>
> The scene when I got to the accident is still kind of a blur. I remember
> running around through the pile of people trying to see who was hurt and how
> badly. Since the Blazer did not have the top on and only had a roll bar
> (not a cage), I expected to find some pretty serious
> injuries........possibly deaths. Otto had already popped out throught the
> windshield opening and was checking on his family. His wife was dazed, but
> was sitting up apparently unhurt. Likewise with his daughter's boyfriend.
> His daughter however, was lying on the ground not moving and obviously in
> great pain. Kevin was still stuck inside the cab of the Blazer.
>
> I honestly don't remember anyone else coming to the scene, but suddenly
> there was a croud of people all trying to help. By the time I finished
> locating all of the passengers, Pam was already working on the Christy (the
> daughter). Kevin was pretty well beat up but was able to climb out throught
> the windshield opening by himself. We got all of the passengers seated in a
> group and started checking them out. Otto, his wife, and his daughters
> boyfriend all just had a few minor scrapes and bruises. Several other
> people were assisting Pam with caring for Christy, so Amanda and I started
> looking after Kevin. Even though he had been bounced around the cab and had
> hit his head pretty hard, he was more concerned with everyone else than with
> himself and wanted to go help. He was bleeding from his head injury, so
> keeping him quiet and calm was imperative. We made a big deal of bandaging
> a small cut on his elbow mainly so that we'd have an excuse to keep him
> sitting down.
>
> I really have to say at this point how proud I am of Pam and the way she
> handled the emergency. She identified Christy as the most seriously hurt
> person even before I had completed my running inspection (injuries, possible
> vehicle fire, etc) and took charge of her care immediately. She had help
> from several other people, and I knew that if she needed me she was let me
> know, so I went on to other things. She was perfect. Clear orders, proper
> emergency procedures, all of it. When the paramedics arrived, she had
> Christy immobilized and was able to give a full report of definate and
> possible injuries complete with vitals, pupil responses, motor
> control.....the works.
>
> The guy in the Dodge Ram had raced up the beach to a call box and summoned
> help when the rollover first occurred. The first response was from a county
> Sheriff, followed closely by a Forest Service paramedic. The Forest Service
> medic had driven so hard to get there that his brakes were almost on
> fire......we could smell them from 50 feet away. With the official
> emergency personell on site, the rest of us dropped back out of the way and
> let them do their job while we secured the area. Mike's wife Laurie took
> charge of all the kids, some other people started picking up all the debris
> from the rollover, and about 6 others (including Mike and I) started looking
> after the Blazer.
>
> The Blazer was still sitting on its passenger side and was dumping fluids at
> an alarming rate........most importantly gasoline out of the filler neck.
> After running a tow strap from it to another vehicle to keep it from sliding
> into the water, a bunch of us pushed it back over onto it's wheels. Mike
> grabbed a shovel and started burying the spilled gasoline to reduce fire
> danger. At one time I counted 6 different fire extinguishers spread out on
> the ground around the truck, so everyone was very aware of the possible
> danger.
>
> A Scottsdale Rural Metro ambulance showed up a little while after the Forest
> Service medic, but they decided that with Christy's possible spinal injuries
> and Kevin's head injury it would be best to fly both of them out. The
> MedEvac choppers only hold 1 patient, so 2 different helicopters had to be
> called in to fly them into town. Otto and the rest of the family were in
> good enough shape to drive themselves to the hospital, so they headed back
> to the campsite to get their RV and drive out with Pam accompanying them.
>
> Injury totals:
>
> Christy fell out of the back of the Blazer when it was upside down, landing
> on her head and neck. As she fell out, her legs were tangled in the seat
> just enough to cause her to do the splits when she hit which resulted in the
> dislocation of both of her hips. She also received a cut behind her left
> ear and a patch of "road rash" that extended from her chest to her knees.
> Her hips popped back into place while she was being placed onto the back
> board. The head injury required 8 stitches. No broken bones.
>
> Otto's wife received only minor scrapes and bruises.
>
> Christy's boyfriend was uninjured.
>
> Otto and Kevin (in the front seats) were not wearing seatbelts, so they fell
> on each other as the truck rolled. Both of them are pretty big
> boys.....Kevin weighs in at 275 and Otto is even larger. Otto has some
> bruises and a couple of cuts from crawling out through the windshield
> opening, but no other injuries.
>
> Kevin bruised both thighs when he hit the steering wheel, and has an egg
> sized knot on his head and a mild concussion from hitting a metal grab
> handle inside the cab.
>
> Both Kevin and Christy had been released from the hospital by the time I got
> there.
>
> The accident:
>
> It wasn't until after everyone else was gone that I really got a chance to
> talk with Mike about what really happened. Mike was in front of Kevin and
> saw the whole thing in his rear view mirror. Remember the slight left turn
> I mentioned at the top of the saddle? Apparently Kevin wasn't able to see
> the turn and went straight up the saddle. When he didn't turn, his
> passenger side front tire continued climbing up the side of the saddle onto
> a rock shelf while the drivers side started down the back side of the saddle
> and into a rut that had been formed in the trail. This put the passenger
> side almost 6 feet higher than the drivers side in less than a second. At
> the height of the travel on the passenger side, the beads blew out on BOTH
> drivers side tires and over it went.
>
> On the way home that night, I had a long talk with Kathy and Nathan (my
> kids) about the accident so that they would understand it and not be
> frightened. We talked about the injuries and the actual mechanism of how
> and why the truck rolled over. The second really proud moment of the day
> came when the kids told me why they thought it had happened:
>
> Kathy (age 9): "He didn't get out and look at the hill like you
> do.......and he didn't have somebody stand there and direct him either."
>
> Nathan (age 7): "He was going to fast too........he should have put it in 4
> low"
>
> And most important (from both of them): "They should have been wearing
> their seatbelts like we do"
>
> 'Nuff said.
>
> tomorrow part 3.......the recovery
>
>
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19439 From: Nick Notestine <nnote@n...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 11:02pm
Subject: Parts washer
Simple green would probably work as a good washer fluid.
Nick
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19440 From: Rick Hall <ricknhall@h...>
Date: Tue Feb 27, 2001 4:02am
Subject: XJ Lift
I was going to the wrenching party this weekend but it looks like I'll be
wrenching my own 3" lift for my wife's Cherokee ... any tips/tricks to make
the install easier would be appreciated. Here are the details:
99XJ
Auto
8.25 rear 30 front w/3.55's and tracklock (no mods, I removed the
shackle/spacer lift I had earlier)
Here are the components to the lift:
front springs, front lower control arms, trac arm drop down bracket, rear
add-a-leafs
This is a 3" kit, I already have the tcase lower kit, longer shocks and
longer UBolts.
TIA
Rick
ricknhall@h...
19441 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Tue Feb 27, 2001 6:06am
Subject: Re: D30 Locker Question - Help
I would NOT grind the gears. Great way to ruin a perfectly good set of gears.
Remove the carrier with a REALLY big pry bar and using your legs as the muscle.
Hook it into the carrier area or something convenient. If you keep the bear
races on the correct side, oriented corrected (up end up, and down end down),
then you won't have any problems. Sounds like your putting in a lockright or
something like that, so you won't have to worry about mixing up the carrier
bearings since they are pressed on and the carrier only goes in one way. I
believe you will need to remove the ring gear to get the cross shaft out.
Again, not a big deal. I wouldn't even worry about getting the ring gear back
on with the holes in the exact same spot. Not an issue. If you put the bearing
caps back on in the right place, you should be good to go.
Just as a side note, be sure to replace your axle seals. If you don't, they are
nearly guaranteed to leak. For whatever reason, once you pull that axle out and
disturb the seal to axle interface, then it doesn't want to seal back up (most
of the time). I have learned the hard way as I am sure many other on the list
have done as well.
Overall it shouldn't be a problem.................
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19442 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Tue Feb 27, 2001 6:09am
Subject: Re: For Sale parts out of a 85 CJ-7
Powersteering pump from 6 cylinder won't work. Will need a new Chevy style.
High pressure hose to steering may need to be custom made. I was able to use
the AMC stock one, but the routing was not ideal.
This was just one thing that came to mind while reading your post about other
things that you may find that won't work with the SBC.
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19443 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Tue Feb 27, 2001 6:14am
Subject: Re: check out my recent upgrades on my '94 ZJ
Looks great!!! Excellent looking ZJ!
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19444 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Tue Feb 27, 2001 6:22am
Subject: bad decals
If anyone is interested, I have 200 decals without the Arizona printed on them. Printers mistake and they are reprinting them for me. They didn't want these returned so if anyone can think of a good use for them, please let me know.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=22547&a=905123&p=42169067
Jon Loveless
(480) 816-6240