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18820-18844
18820 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 0:56pm
Subject: RE: Shackle reversal........
I have been running a shackle reversal for several years. On-road handling
will be improved. There is a controversy about it's offroad benefits. My
experiences is good off road ability also. But I made some modifications to
mine. I moved my axle forward on the spring pack 1". This helped the offroad
ability.
-----Original Message-----
From: cmandrick@h... [mailto:cmandrick@h...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:48 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Shackle reversal........
Hi again all,
Does anyone in the club run a shackle reversal? I have considered
going to one, but I want "real-world" opinions about the on-road
handling, as my jeep is my primary transportation. My setup will be
33" tires on 4 inches of lift, with a 1.5 inch body lift, drop pitman
arm, and otherwise stock steering.
Chris M.
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18821 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 0:56pm
Subject: Re: Easy ride to Waterfalls near Carefree, AZ
I have been there 2 or 3 times although it's been a while. It seems
like a popular place and seems to collect a lot of trash based on my
visits there. One time there was even a dead rotting animal up under
one of the bushes (probably a mountain lion's meal) that stunk something
nasty.
I don't believe the falls are passable.
-Roger
Mike Baney wrote:
>
> I wonder if it is possible to go pass the waterfall
> and see what is on the other side of it???
>
> Mike
>
> --- finkaz@y... wrote:
> >
> > Camp Creek Water Falls near Carefree, AZ
> >
> >
18822 From: Nick Notestine <nnote@n...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 0:57pm
Subject: Jack stands gone
The stands were claimed about 3 mins after the post.
Nick
18823 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 1:13pm
Subject: Re: Lockright Owners Please Read!!
I have a Lockright in my front Dana 30. I have been running it
for 2-3 years now with 33" tires and have never had a problem
with it. I ordered it with the "hardened" shaft which, like you
say, cost about $20 extra.
But I think they are a good choice for a front axle - especially one
with manual hubs. For someone on a budget, they are a lot of bang
for the buck.
-Roger
Dan Coley wrote:
>
> I have been running a Lockright in the rear of my 2000 TJ, Dana 35C,
> 33 Big O MT, with a 4cyl and no engine mods, 3" susp lift since Dec.
>
> As some know I broke the pinion shaft in the locker last week at Raw
> Deal. Some who have wheeled with me know that I can pick an odd line
> here or there, but do not drive hard, spin tires and slam my way
> through stuff, I go as easy as possible on a D35 as most people
> should. However, the shaft did break, but the locker sustained no
> other damage.
>
> The good news is that Lockright is replacing my locker free of
> charge, the bad news is a quote I got from one of their "tech" guys
> today, when I called to discuss the problem and looking for a
> possible solution, he said and I quote:
>
> "THE SHAFT SHOULD NOT BREAK UNLESS YOUR ARE DOING ANY TYPE OF
> ROCKCRAWLING"...end quote.
>
> If anyone else doesn't see the oddity in that statement, explain it
> too me, cause in no other terms, that scares the hell out of me.
>
> I quote from their website: "Powertrax Lock-Right Lockers are brute
> force devices for rugged truck applications....Best suited for
> extreme off-road to severe on-road use. proven in the most demanding
> applications worldwide" Exactly how much worse than rockcrawling
> does it get?
>
> Jason Riggs told me that Lockright makes a "hardened" shaft that is
> supposed to be stronger than the stock Lockright shaft...my question
> for them was, why not just make the good one and ditch the old
> one...there was no answer from Powertrax. According to Powertrax the
> hardened shaft has a hole at one end, where as the "weaker" one has a
> hole at both ends. Needless to say I will make sure I get the better
> one for the replacement. ORU sells the shaft, but I have to pay $20
> just so that my locker won't break!
>
> I felt obligated to announce the "philosophy" behind Powertrax's
> Lockright lockers. Unfortunately I am spoiled and cannot run without
> a locker now, but Lockrights are the cheapest and for the mean time
> will have to be my locker of choice.
>
> Dan
> 2000 TJ, currently broken
18824 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 1:15pm
Subject: Re: I gave you THe Bassett Hound.
Oh man! That's cold bro.
Funny, but cold.
-Roger
Joe W wrote:
>
> He was best tasting Bassett hound ever we had for Christmas dinner.
> Tank yous very very much for hims. His was not weighted 70 pounds...much
> more closer to 66 pounds but still enough to feed wife and 10 childrens.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Tham Ngugyn Ngo
>
> <grin>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: JEEP THANG [mailto:jeep_thang@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:41 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] I gave you THe Bassett Hound.
> >
> >
> > Hello, I gave someone a Bassett Hound, named Sarge, 5 yo about 70 lbs.
> > My wife and I were just wandering how he is Doing.
> >
> > Sincerely: Larry, Carmen, and Emily
> > JEEP THANG FAMILY
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
18825 From: Matt Ulepic <mulepic@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 1:18pm
Subject: Re: Shackle reversal........
i did a soa on a fsj and the shackle reversal improved the ride immensely
----- Original Message -----
From: <cmandrick@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:47 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Shackle reversal........
> Hi again all,
>
> Does anyone in the club run a shackle reversal? I have considered
> going to one, but I want "real-world" opinions about the on-road
> handling, as my jeep is my primary transportation. My setup will be
> 33" tires on 4 inches of lift, with a 1.5 inch body lift, drop pitman
> arm, and otherwise stock steering.
>
> Chris M.
>
>
>
>
>
18826 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 1:22pm
Subject: Re: UPDATE:Re: Lockright Owners Please Read!!
Gee, I was considering a Lockright for the front Dana 44 I'm swapping
into my YJ. After the swap, I intend to run 35" tires. I was hoping
the Dana 44 version of the Lockright would be a little bigger and
stronger than the Dana 30/35 versions. Anyone know about this? Maybe
I should call them and ask.
-Roger
Dan Coley wrote:
>
> <snip>
> I did ask about the "rockcrawling" quote, and he said the guy doesn't
> know what he's talking about, etc etc...who knows. But he did say
> that running a Lockright in a jeep with 33in tires is the limit of
> the pinion shaft...and no one should run one with bigger.
> <snip>
18827 From: DeVincentis, Jason <jason_devincentis@i...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 1:25pm
Subject: RE: Lockright Owners Please Read!!
I too have had a Lockright in my front Dana 30 for about two years. I had the shop install it, so I don't know if it came with the hardened shaft or not. I have been running super swamper tsl 35x15.50 on this setup for over a year with no problems or breakages (knock on wood)...now, while i haven't wheeled anything extreme, i have run Chiva falls/italian trap and charleau gap (good 3-4 rated trails).
Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@agcs.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 2:13 PM
To: Dan Coley
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Lockright Owners Please Read!!
I have a Lockright in my front Dana 30. I have been running it
for 2-3 years now with 33" tires and have never had a problem
with it. I ordered it with the "hardened" shaft which, like you
say, cost about $20 extra.
But I think they are a good choice for a front axle - especially one
with manual hubs. For someone on a budget, they are a lot of bang
for the buck.
-Roger
Dan Coley wrote:
>
> I have been running a Lockright in the rear of my 2000 TJ, Dana 35C,
> 33 Big O MT, with a 4cyl and no engine mods, 3" susp lift since Dec.
>
> As some know I broke the pinion shaft in the locker last week at Raw
> Deal. Some who have wheeled with me know that I can pick an odd line
> here or there, but do not drive hard, spin tires and slam my way
> through stuff, I go as easy as possible on a D35 as most people
> should. However, the shaft did break, but the locker sustained no
> other damage.
>
> The good news is that Lockright is replacing my locker free of
> charge, the bad news is a quote I got from one of their "tech" guys
> today, when I called to discuss the problem and looking for a
> possible solution, he said and I quote:
>
> "THE SHAFT SHOULD NOT BREAK UNLESS YOUR ARE DOING ANY TYPE OF
> ROCKCRAWLING"...end quote.
>
> If anyone else doesn't see the oddity in that statement, explain it
> too me, cause in no other terms, that scares the hell out of me.
>
> I quote from their website: "Powertrax Lock-Right Lockers are brute
> force devices for rugged truck applications....Best suited for
> extreme off-road to severe on-road use. proven in the most demanding
> applications worldwide" Exactly how much worse than rockcrawling
> does it get?
>
> Jason Riggs told me that Lockright makes a "hardened" shaft that is
> supposed to be stronger than the stock Lockright shaft...my question
> for them was, why not just make the good one and ditch the old
> one...there was no answer from Powertrax. According to Powertrax the
> hardened shaft has a hole at one end, where as the "weaker" one has a
> hole at both ends. Needless to say I will make sure I get the better
> one for the replacement. ORU sells the shaft, but I have to pay $20
> just so that my locker won't break!
>
> I felt obligated to announce the "philosophy" behind Powertrax's
> Lockright lockers. Unfortunately I am spoiled and cannot run without
> a locker now, but Lockrights are the cheapest and for the mean time
> will have to be my locker of choice.
>
> Dan
> 2000 TJ, currently broken
18828 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 1:28pm
Subject: UPDATE:Re: Lockright Owners Please Read!!
It's not so much the locker itself, as much as it's the pinion
shaft. With a visual and physical analysis you could see that the
ends of the pinion shaft that go into each side of the carrier, are
under 'extreme' torque and resulting stress when the carrier
distributes the torque to the axles...that's how mine broke, right at
the end where the pinion shaft goes into the carrier. If you could,
the best way would be to weld the pinion shaft to the
carrier..essentially making one "piece". The combination would be
much stronger than just having a pinion shaft being stressed upon by
the carrier itself. Although this may weaken the carrier itself and
obviously make locker/r&p/carrier maintanance/removal/replacement a
PIA.
--- In az_vjc@y..., Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> Gee, I was considering a Lockright for the front Dana 44 I'm
swapping
> into my YJ. After the swap, I intend to run 35" tires. I was
hoping
> the Dana 44 version of the Lockright would be a little bigger and
> stronger than the Dana 30/35 versions. Anyone know about this?
Maybe
> I should call them and ask.
>
> -Roger
>
> Dan Coley wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> > I did ask about the "rockcrawling" quote, and he said the guy
doesn't
> > know what he's talking about, etc etc...who knows. But he did say
> > that running a Lockright in a jeep with 33in tires is the limit of
> > the pinion shaft...and no one should run one with bigger.
> > <snip>
18829 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 1:35pm
Subject: RE: UPDATE:Re: Lockright Owners Please Read!!
Be very careful welding on the carrier for two reasons. First when
installing a Lock right the Pinion and carrier become the week link. Second
is the carrier is cast. To weld on case you need to pre heat it to 400 deg
F and then after you are done welding you need to make sure it cools slow.
If you do not do this the cast with get brittle and for sure brake.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Coley [mailto:mt_b@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 2:29 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] UPDATE:Re: Lockright Owners Please Read!!
It's not so much the locker itself, as much as it's the pinion
shaft. With a visual and physical analysis you could see that the
ends of the pinion shaft that go into each side of the carrier, are
under 'extreme' torque and resulting stress when the carrier
distributes the torque to the axles...that's how mine broke, right at
the end where the pinion shaft goes into the carrier. If you could,
the best way would be to weld the pinion shaft to the
carrier..essentially making one "piece". The combination would be
much stronger than just having a pinion shaft being stressed upon by
the carrier itself. Although this may weaken the carrier itself and
obviously make locker/r&p/carrier maintanance/removal/replacement a
PIA.
--- In az_vjc@y..., Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> Gee, I was considering a Lockright for the front Dana 44 I'm
swapping
> into my YJ. After the swap, I intend to run 35" tires. I was
hoping
> the Dana 44 version of the Lockright would be a little bigger and
> stronger than the Dana 30/35 versions. Anyone know about this?
Maybe
> I should call them and ask.
>
> -Roger
>
> Dan Coley wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> > I did ask about the "rockcrawling" quote, and he said the guy
doesn't
> > know what he's talking about, etc etc...who knows. But he did say
> > that running a Lockright in a jeep with 33in tires is the limit of
> > the pinion shaft...and no one should run one with bigger.
> > <snip>
18830 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 2:53pm
Subject: RE: I gave you THe Bassett Hound.
I think this guy is one of those damned cat lovers ;)
Cat = The other white meat
LOL
Scott
Joe W wrote:
He was best tasting Bassett hound ever we had for Christmas dinner.
Tank yous very very much for hims. His was not weighted 70 pounds...much
more closer to 66 pounds but still enough to feed wife and 10 childrens.
Sincerely,
Tham Ngugyn Ngo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JEEP THANG [mailto:jeep_thang@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:41 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] I gave you THe Bassett Hound.
>
>
> Hello, I gave someone a Bassett Hound, named Sarge, 5 yo about 70 lbs.
> My wife and I were just wandering how he is Doing.
>
> Sincerely: Larry, Carmen, and Emily
> JEEP THANG FAMILY
>
>
>
>
>
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18831 From: <Tjacobs@I...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 3:04pm
Subject: Re: YJ Question
So...last time I was under the Jeep, it definitely did not spin. Yet
front
tires rotated freely without turning the shaft or each other. If
something's wrong, any ideas???
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Gevarter [mailto:gev39@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:59 PM
To: Jacobson, Thomas
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] YJ Question
It should spin freely, unless in $WD
(Must have been a Jeeper whoever designed my keyboard; they put
the "$"
on the "4" key...)
Tjacobs@I... wrote:
> Hey all -
>
> Can anyone tell me if the front driveshaft of a YJ (D30, vacuum
> actuator,
> NP231) should or shouldn't spin freely with the vehicle parked, t-
> case in
> 2-hi, tranny in park? I swear to God I've witnessed both, WITHOUT
> moving
> the Jeep! Am trying to locate a new "clunk" and came across this
> driveshaft
> issue while checking the u-joints. Either front tire spins freely
> without
> turning the driveshaft or the other tire (ie. it's not in 4wd).
>
> TIA,
> Tom
18832 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 3:42pm
Subject: Rolls Closure
I agree with closing it like they did with Bull Dog
Canyon. I'm one of the non-lazy people who goes and
gets the "NO-FEE" permit to access the area from the
Mesa FS Office. It's much better than them closing it
completely and I think it's a solution and would cut
down on the traffic going in from Butcher Jones,
although they'd have to put up a lot of fence to cut
down on the traffic from the Four Peaks Road.
With in a matter of 30 mins of waiting for people to
do El Oso Mine Trail last weekend, Atleast 20 people
on quads and dirt bikes showed up and were heading
down towards Suguaro Lake from the rest area on 4
Peaks Road.
Let's not go down with out a fight!
Jake
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18833 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 4:28pm
Subject: Fw: JEEP PETITION - Save the future of Jeep
I don't know if everybody saw this. so for your consideration.
--James
> An online petition has been started to help save the future of Jeep.
>
> The Cherokee is being discontinued, the Grand will soon have IFS and no
> low-range, and the future of the Wrangler is in doubt.
> www.carandtrucknews.com
>
> The link to the petition is
http://www.petitiononline.com/hds2/petition.html
>
> Please sign if you care about Jeep. Thanks for your participation.
>
>
>
>
>
18834 From: <monosyllabicguy@w...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 4:55pm
Subject: Tranny problems
i had finished my T18 swap into my 78 CJ5 last Thursday. i drove it Friday and it leaked really bad from between the adapter plate and the tranny. i pulled the T-case off and went to unbolt the adapter. after that i took off the bull gear. as i pulled on the adapter, the mainshaft came out with it. it came out about two inches. now the front gears are misaligned and some of the front roller bearings fell down into the case. im figuring now that the whole thing has to be disassembled and then reassembled. im thinking about taking it to Aamco but im not sure. they say its gonna cost me between $200 and $250 to do the job. but im pretty sure they can have it done tomorrow. anyways, is there anyone that has a better suggestion or maybe works at a tranny shop??? any opinions are very helpful. i fell pretty dumb now. thanks in advance.
Joey
18835 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 5:03pm
Subject: Re: Mud Springs...Run this sunday?
The Lo-Rangers is doing a maintenance run on the Mud Springs Trail on
Saturday. The Lo-Rangers took over trail adoption from the Arivada 4WDC
when the club cancelled it Arizona chapter.
Linda
trmn8rjn98@a... wrote:
>
> I read the newest OFF-ROAD & now would like to run this trail. Is
> anyone else interested? According to them it is a 3.5 looks like a
> fun trail located up the b-line a little ways before sunflower.
> I have not run this before so would like to have other people long if
> they want. Also anyone who has done it before is welcome to be the
> leader if they like.
> John
18836 From: ebnhils <ebnhils@e...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 5:32pm
Subject: E-mail tax legislation pending
We are forwarding this to everyone because we all exchange so many e-mails
per day (45-75) that this will effect us if it passes.
VOTE NO ON Bill 602P!!!!
Guess the warnings were true.
Federal Bill 602P 5-cents per E-mail sent.
It figures! No more free E-mail! We knew this was coming!! Bill 602P will
permit the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent charge on every delivered
E-mail. Please read the following carefully if you intend to stay online
and
continue using E-mail.
The last few months have revealed an alarming trend in the Government of the
United States attempting to quietly push through legislation that will
affect
our use of the Internet. Under proposed legislation, the US Postal Service
will be attempting to bill E-mail users out of "alternative postage fees"
Bill 602P will permit the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent surcharge on
every E-Mail delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The
consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP.
Washington DC lawyer Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this
legislation from becoming law. The US Postal Service is claiming lost
revenue, due to the proliferation of E-mail, is costing nearly $230,000,000
in revenue per year. You may have noticed their recent ad campaign:
"There is nothing like a letter."
Since the average person received about 10 pieces of E-mail per day in 1998,
the cost of the typical individual would be an additional 50 cents a day
- or over $180 per year - above and beyond their regular Internet costs.
Note that this would be money paid directly to the US Postal Service for a
service they do not even provide.
The whole point of the Internet is democracy and non-interference.
You are already paying an exorbitant price for snail mail because of
bureaucratic efficiency. It currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be
delivered from coast to coast.
If the US Postal Service is allowed to tinker with E-mail, it will mark
the end of the "free" Internet in the United States.
Our congressional representative, Tony Schnell (R) (Massachesettes) has even
suggested a "$20-$40 per month surcharge on all Internet service" above and
beyond the governments proposed E-mail charges. Note that most of the major
newspapers have ignored the story the only exception being the Washingtonian
which called the idea of E-mail surcharge " a useful concept who's time has
come"
(March 6th, 1999 Editorial).
Do not sit by and watch your freedom erode away!
Send this E-mail to EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends
and relatives to write their congressional representative and say "NO" to
Bill 602P. It will only take a few moments of your time and could very well
be instrumental in killing a bill we do not want.
PLEASE FORWARD!
18837 From: Eric Herring <herring@u...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 5:37pm
Subject: RE: tomorrow night
Do we have a meeting place/time for this yet?
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: David Smith [mailto:dwsmith69@h...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:44 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] tommarow night
Here is a little article on tommarow night at 6:00 pm in scottsdale.
http://www.arizonarepublic.com/northeastvalley/articles/0214roberts0214Z7.ht
ml
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18838 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 5:46pm
Subject: RE: engine light
Works for the '97 TJs, but not newer years.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Notestine [mailto:nnote@n...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:43 AM
> To: Greg Stapley; AzVjc
> Subject: [az_vjc] engine light
>
>
> Hey Greg,
> To check what the light means do this...
> After you get back from a run to the store...
> Turn your Jeep off off, then turn the ignition on, off, on , off and then
> on. The light will flash a number code. Say for 23, it will flash twice
> then pause and flash three times. If there is more than one code it will
> pause 5 secs. between codes. When it gives you a code 55, it is
> done. Let
> me know what you get and I'll tell you what it means, I have a code chart
> here.
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>
18839 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 6:06pm
Subject: RE: atlas II
Joe....on this one I have to disagree with you. I wheeled this past
Thanksgiving with a very good friend of mine from CA (he was out visiting).
He had recently installed a 4:1 Tera low in his automatic equipped TJ.
There were a number of times he was unable to stop his vehicle without
slipping it into nuetral. These situations were when he was going down hill
in 4LO range. It was not because his tires were sliding on the trail.....he
simply could not stop it when in 4LO. He is seriously considering rear dics
brakes to provide improved control. (and his brakes are NOT in bad shape,
etc.)
Anyway, with the slight additional advantage of the 4.3:1 reduction
(compared to the 4:1), this situation would be just that much worse.
Later.......Stu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:41 AM
> To: 'Chris Krieg'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] atlas II
>
>
> Ha! The only reason that they recommend the 3.8 for automatic
> transmissions
> is because thats the only way they can get rid of them. <laugh>
>
> I think that the problem with automatics occurs only when you are
> relying on
> the engine for compression breaking while going downhill. Going
> uphill, you
> get a torque multiplication factor of 2:1 (when the engine is driving the
> transmission). Going downhill, the reverse is true... the transmission is
> now trying to drive the engine, and with the torque reduction, compression
> braking doesn't work so well...
>
> Either way... I think it would be a mistake to get the 3.8:1 when
> the 4.3:1
> is available... if you don't like the lower ratios; start off in
> fourth gear
> and it will be just like the stock transfer case <grin>.
>
> Joe
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:17 AM
> > To: arizonajeep@h...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] atlas II
> >
> >
> > Actually, it depends on the tranny you have as to which Atlas
> > to get. Last
> > thing I heard was that any of the gear ratios are good for
> > manual trannys,
> > but if you have an auto tranny, they do no recommend any
> > ration lower than
> > the 3.8. The problem is that the 4.3 ratio will overdrive the
> > tranny and
> > make it very difficult to stop or stay stopped. Never seen
> > this in person,
> > but thats what Advanced Adapters was saying.
> >
> > Chris K
> >
> > > From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
> > > Reply-To: <arizonajeep@h...>
> > > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:42:11 -0700
> > > To: "'LarryM'" <jeeperaz@q...>, <curiosalicia@a...>,
> > > <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] atlas II
> > >
> > > DO NOT get the 3.8. Go for the 4.3... even if you think
> > you won't need it
> > > now; trust me, later it will save you from purchasing your
> > second Atlas II.
> > >
> > > Joe West
> > > Atlas II 4.3 in a 98TJ
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: LarryM [mailto:jeeperaz@q...]
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 5:32 PM
> > >> To: curiosalicia@a...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] atlas II
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The Atlas tcase has a fixed yoke.... no slip yoke to
> > >> eliminate but you'll
> > >> need at least a new rear driveline.
> > >>
> > >> Sounds like your gearing will be just about right with 35"
> > >> tires. The Atlas
> > >> has either a 3.8 or 4.3 gear reduction in low range so it
> > >> will certainly
> > >> help offroad.
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: <curiosalicia@a...>
> > >> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 5:05 PM
> > >> Subject: [az_vjc] atlas II
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> I am looking at getting the atlas II transfer case for my
> > >> 00" wrangler. I
> > >>> have two questions. One, is there a slip-yoke eliminator
> > >> offered? I will
> > >> be
> > >>> putting on a 2" spacer on my 4" lift. Will i need a slip
> > >> yoke eliminator?
> > >> I
> > >>> also plan to up grade to 35" tires. Now i have 4.56 ring
> > >> and pinion with
> > >> 33"
> > >>> tires. I have heard that a atlas II will also help with the
> > >> larger tires
> > >>> size.(like regearing again) Is that so?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
18840 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 6:18pm
Subject: Re: tomorrow night
Eric we do not even have a trip leader yet:)
I plan on going it would be nice if we could meet some place with someone
who knows the area and go in together. Any takers?
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Herring" <herring@u...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] tomorrow night
> Do we have a meeting place/time for this yet?
>
>
> Eric Herring 92XJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Smith [mailto:dwsmith69@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:44 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] tommarow night
>
>
> Here is a little article on tommarow night at 6:00 pm in scottsdale.
>
http://www.arizonarepublic.com/northeastvalley/articles/0214roberts0214Z7.ht
> ml
>
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18841 From: Greg Mobley <greg85268@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 6:24pm
Subject: hard top
A friend of mine asked me to post this, free hard top for 67 cj to a good home.
Call Roy or Sharon at 480-984-7146
18842 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@e...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 6:12pm
Subject: Re: E-mail tax legislation pending - HOAX
The "Pending Email Legislation" is a hoax. Check out this link for more
information:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/pending/email.htm
Len
18843 From: ebnhils <ebnhils@e...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 6:42pm
Subject: Re: Check engine light came on today
Greg,
A YJ will not set a engine light that is only on the newer systems. I also have a YJ, you can cycle the ignition switch on and off three times leaving it on the last time. This will cause the light to flash a code. When the light flashes count the flashes, the code will come out in a two digits. The first flashes will be the first digit then a one second pause then the second set. There will be a three second pause between codes and then it will repeat are flash a second code if there is one.
I have a service manual with the codes in it, if you can get the codes I can provide more assistance.
Eben
92 YJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Stapley
To: ebnhils@earthlink.net ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com ; ralph@primenet.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
It is a 95 YJ somehwere in the area of 60,000 miles.. I is not gonna be aloose gas cap, because at one point someone stole my gas cap and I did not find out for at a day or so, so I guess the only solution is atleast to have a shop hook it up and see if there was a problem or is or whatever..
Greg
>From: "ebnhils"
>Reply-To: "ebnhils"
>To: , "Ralph Williams"
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
>Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:32:50 -0700
>
>What year and model of Jeep?
>
>The check engine light comes on for a reason. It could be a failed sensor,
>an engine miss or an emission failer. It should be checked to at least see
>what it is.
>I could be as simple as the gas cap is loose. this all depends on the
>vehical. I newer Jeep like the TJ's have an ODB2 system that moniters almost
>all systems.
>
>Eben
>92 YJ
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Ralph Williams
>To:
>Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
>
>
> > I have heard that the check engine light will just come on at a
> > predetermined mileage to remind you to change the O2 sensor. My
> > Sister-in-laws ZJ's came on right at 60,000 and the dealer reset
> > it. My ZJ went through 60,000 without a light coming on....
> > Don't know for sure, but maybe something to think about.
> > I do know that they can come on and have to be hooked to the
> > dealer's computer for a reset.
> > Does the TJ respond to turning the ignition on 3 times in 5
> > seconds to get the fault codes to come out of the computer as in
> > the ZJ? Might look into something like that too.
> > Hope this gives somewhere for you to look,
> > Ralph
> >
> >
> > Greg Stapley wrote:
> > >
> > > I only have about 59000 miles on it.. Would the oxygen sensor
> > > go bad this early.. If so how hard is it to replace..
> > >
> > > >From: linda luik
> > > >Reply-To: minihummer@worldnet.att.net
> > > >To: Greg Stapley
> > > >CC: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
> > > >Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:10:20 -0700
> > > >
> > > >It comes on around 82.5k miles to indicate that the emissions
> > > systems
> > > >require inspection. Chances are the O2 sensor is failing.
> > > >
> > > >Linda
> > > >
> > > >Greg Stapley wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > My check engine light came on today.. I looked in my owners
> > > manual and
> > > > > it says to go to my dealer for help, so hear I am.. I
> > > checked the oil,
> > > > > all the guages read normal and it seems to be running no
> > > different..
> > > > > Has anybody had any experience witht this?.. How do I find
> > > out what
> > > > > the problem is? TIA Late guys
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
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18844 From: Greg Stapley <love24wheel@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 7:01pm
Subject: Re: Check engine light came on today
Odd turn of events, I did disconnect the battery last night, but when my wife drove to school today it still came on.. When I got off work I decided to drive across town to my recruiters office, 1. to give him some paperwork, and 2. to try and get the codes.. But the light did not come on? I thought this was wierd but I will take it.. is this normal, should I be more concerned?
Greg
>From: "ebnhils"
>Reply-To: "ebnhils"
>To: , , "Greg Stapley"
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:42:18 -0700
>
>Greg,
>
>A YJ will not set a engine light that is only on the newer systems. I also have a YJ, you can cycle the ignition switch on and off three times leaving it on the last time. This will cause the light to flash a code. When the light flashes count the flashes, the code will come out in a two digits. The first flashes will be the first digit then a one second pause then the second set. There will be a three second pause between codes and then it will repeat are flash a second code if there is one.
>
>I have a service manual with the codes in it, if you can get the codes I can provide more assistance.
>
>Eben
>92 YJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Greg Stapley
> To: ebnhils@earthlink.net ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com ; ralph@primenet.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
>
>
> It is a 95 YJ somehwere in the area of 60,000 miles.. I is not gonna be aloose gas cap, because at one point someone stole my gas cap and I did not find out for at a day or so, so I guess the only solution is atleast to have a shop hook it up and see if there was a problem or is or whatever..
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> >From: "ebnhils"
> >Reply-To: "ebnhils"
> >To: , "Ralph Williams"
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
> >Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:32:50 -0700
> >
> >What year and model of Jeep?
> >
> >The check engine light comes on for a reason. It could be a failed sensor,
> >an engine miss or an emission failer. It should be checked to at least see
> >what it is.
> >I could be as simple as the gas cap is loose. this all depends on the
> >vehical. I newer Jeep like the TJ's have an ODB2 system that moniters almost
> >all systems.
> >
> >Eben
> >92 YJ
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Ralph Williams
> >To:
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:07 PM
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
> >
> >
> > > I have heard that the check engine light will just come on at a
> > > predetermined mileage to remind you to change the O2 sensor. My
> > > Sister-in-laws ZJ's came on right at 60,000 and the dealer reset
> > > it. My ZJ went through 60,000 without a light coming on....
> > > Don't know for sure, but maybe something to think about.
> > > I do know that they can come on and have to be hooked to the
> > > dealer's computer for a reset.
> > > Does the TJ respond to turning the ignition on 3 times in 5
> > > seconds to get the fault codes to come out of the computer as in
> > > the ZJ? Might look into something like that too.
> > > Hope this gives somewhere for you to look,
> > > Ralph
> > >
> > >
> > > Greg Stapley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I only have about 59000 miles on it.. Would the oxygen sensor
> > > > go bad this early.. If so how hard is it to replace..
> > > >
> > > > >From: linda luik
> > > > >Reply-To: minihummer@worldnet.att.net
> > > > >To: Greg Stapley
> > > > >CC: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
> > > > >Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:10:20 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >It comes on around 82.5k miles to indicate that the emissions
> > > > systems
> > > > >require inspection. Chances are the O2 sensor is failing.
> > > > >
> > > > >Linda
> > > > >
> > > > >Greg Stapley wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My check engine light came on today.. I looked in my owners
> > > > manual and
> > > > > > it says to go to my dealer for help, so hear I am.. I
> > > > checked the oil,
> > > > > > all the guages read normal and it seems to be running no
> > > > different..
> > > > > > Has anybody had any experience witht this?.. How do I find
> > > > out what
> > > > > > the problem is? TIA Late guys
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Greg
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > http://explorer.msn.com
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at
> > > > http://explorer.msn.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Greg
>
>
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18820 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 0:56pm
Subject: RE: Shackle reversal........
I have been running a shackle reversal for several years. On-road handling
will be improved. There is a controversy about it's offroad benefits. My
experiences is good off road ability also. But I made some modifications to
mine. I moved my axle forward on the spring pack 1". This helped the offroad
ability.
-----Original Message-----
From: cmandrick@h... [mailto:cmandrick@h...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:48 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Shackle reversal........
Hi again all,
Does anyone in the club run a shackle reversal? I have considered
going to one, but I want "real-world" opinions about the on-road
handling, as my jeep is my primary transportation. My setup will be
33" tires on 4 inches of lift, with a 1.5 inch body lift, drop pitman
arm, and otherwise stock steering.
Chris M.
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18821 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 0:56pm
Subject: Re: Easy ride to Waterfalls near Carefree, AZ
I have been there 2 or 3 times although it's been a while. It seems
like a popular place and seems to collect a lot of trash based on my
visits there. One time there was even a dead rotting animal up under
one of the bushes (probably a mountain lion's meal) that stunk something
nasty.
I don't believe the falls are passable.
-Roger
Mike Baney wrote:
>
> I wonder if it is possible to go pass the waterfall
> and see what is on the other side of it???
>
> Mike
>
> --- finkaz@y... wrote:
> >
> > Camp Creek Water Falls near Carefree, AZ
> >
> >
18822 From: Nick Notestine <nnote@n...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 0:57pm
Subject: Jack stands gone
The stands were claimed about 3 mins after the post.
Nick
18823 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 1:13pm
Subject: Re: Lockright Owners Please Read!!
I have a Lockright in my front Dana 30. I have been running it
for 2-3 years now with 33" tires and have never had a problem
with it. I ordered it with the "hardened" shaft which, like you
say, cost about $20 extra.
But I think they are a good choice for a front axle - especially one
with manual hubs. For someone on a budget, they are a lot of bang
for the buck.
-Roger
Dan Coley wrote:
>
> I have been running a Lockright in the rear of my 2000 TJ, Dana 35C,
> 33 Big O MT, with a 4cyl and no engine mods, 3" susp lift since Dec.
>
> As some know I broke the pinion shaft in the locker last week at Raw
> Deal. Some who have wheeled with me know that I can pick an odd line
> here or there, but do not drive hard, spin tires and slam my way
> through stuff, I go as easy as possible on a D35 as most people
> should. However, the shaft did break, but the locker sustained no
> other damage.
>
> The good news is that Lockright is replacing my locker free of
> charge, the bad news is a quote I got from one of their "tech" guys
> today, when I called to discuss the problem and looking for a
> possible solution, he said and I quote:
>
> "THE SHAFT SHOULD NOT BREAK UNLESS YOUR ARE DOING ANY TYPE OF
> ROCKCRAWLING"...end quote.
>
> If anyone else doesn't see the oddity in that statement, explain it
> too me, cause in no other terms, that scares the hell out of me.
>
> I quote from their website: "Powertrax Lock-Right Lockers are brute
> force devices for rugged truck applications....Best suited for
> extreme off-road to severe on-road use. proven in the most demanding
> applications worldwide" Exactly how much worse than rockcrawling
> does it get?
>
> Jason Riggs told me that Lockright makes a "hardened" shaft that is
> supposed to be stronger than the stock Lockright shaft...my question
> for them was, why not just make the good one and ditch the old
> one...there was no answer from Powertrax. According to Powertrax the
> hardened shaft has a hole at one end, where as the "weaker" one has a
> hole at both ends. Needless to say I will make sure I get the better
> one for the replacement. ORU sells the shaft, but I have to pay $20
> just so that my locker won't break!
>
> I felt obligated to announce the "philosophy" behind Powertrax's
> Lockright lockers. Unfortunately I am spoiled and cannot run without
> a locker now, but Lockrights are the cheapest and for the mean time
> will have to be my locker of choice.
>
> Dan
> 2000 TJ, currently broken
18824 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 1:15pm
Subject: Re: I gave you THe Bassett Hound.
Oh man! That's cold bro.
Funny, but cold.
-Roger
Joe W wrote:
>
> He was best tasting Bassett hound ever we had for Christmas dinner.
> Tank yous very very much for hims. His was not weighted 70 pounds...much
> more closer to 66 pounds but still enough to feed wife and 10 childrens.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Tham Ngugyn Ngo
>
> <grin>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: JEEP THANG [mailto:jeep_thang@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:41 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] I gave you THe Bassett Hound.
> >
> >
> > Hello, I gave someone a Bassett Hound, named Sarge, 5 yo about 70 lbs.
> > My wife and I were just wandering how he is Doing.
> >
> > Sincerely: Larry, Carmen, and Emily
> > JEEP THANG FAMILY
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
18825 From: Matt Ulepic <mulepic@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 1:18pm
Subject: Re: Shackle reversal........
i did a soa on a fsj and the shackle reversal improved the ride immensely
----- Original Message -----
From: <cmandrick@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:47 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Shackle reversal........
> Hi again all,
>
> Does anyone in the club run a shackle reversal? I have considered
> going to one, but I want "real-world" opinions about the on-road
> handling, as my jeep is my primary transportation. My setup will be
> 33" tires on 4 inches of lift, with a 1.5 inch body lift, drop pitman
> arm, and otherwise stock steering.
>
> Chris M.
>
>
>
>
>
18826 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 1:22pm
Subject: Re: UPDATE:Re: Lockright Owners Please Read!!
Gee, I was considering a Lockright for the front Dana 44 I'm swapping
into my YJ. After the swap, I intend to run 35" tires. I was hoping
the Dana 44 version of the Lockright would be a little bigger and
stronger than the Dana 30/35 versions. Anyone know about this? Maybe
I should call them and ask.
-Roger
Dan Coley wrote:
>
> <snip>
> I did ask about the "rockcrawling" quote, and he said the guy doesn't
> know what he's talking about, etc etc...who knows. But he did say
> that running a Lockright in a jeep with 33in tires is the limit of
> the pinion shaft...and no one should run one with bigger.
> <snip>
18827 From: DeVincentis, Jason <jason_devincentis@i...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 1:25pm
Subject: RE: Lockright Owners Please Read!!
I too have had a Lockright in my front Dana 30 for about two years. I had the shop install it, so I don't know if it came with the hardened shaft or not. I have been running super swamper tsl 35x15.50 on this setup for over a year with no problems or breakages (knock on wood)...now, while i haven't wheeled anything extreme, i have run Chiva falls/italian trap and charleau gap (good 3-4 rated trails).
Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@agcs.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 2:13 PM
To: Dan Coley
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Lockright Owners Please Read!!
I have a Lockright in my front Dana 30. I have been running it
for 2-3 years now with 33" tires and have never had a problem
with it. I ordered it with the "hardened" shaft which, like you
say, cost about $20 extra.
But I think they are a good choice for a front axle - especially one
with manual hubs. For someone on a budget, they are a lot of bang
for the buck.
-Roger
Dan Coley wrote:
>
> I have been running a Lockright in the rear of my 2000 TJ, Dana 35C,
> 33 Big O MT, with a 4cyl and no engine mods, 3" susp lift since Dec.
>
> As some know I broke the pinion shaft in the locker last week at Raw
> Deal. Some who have wheeled with me know that I can pick an odd line
> here or there, but do not drive hard, spin tires and slam my way
> through stuff, I go as easy as possible on a D35 as most people
> should. However, the shaft did break, but the locker sustained no
> other damage.
>
> The good news is that Lockright is replacing my locker free of
> charge, the bad news is a quote I got from one of their "tech" guys
> today, when I called to discuss the problem and looking for a
> possible solution, he said and I quote:
>
> "THE SHAFT SHOULD NOT BREAK UNLESS YOUR ARE DOING ANY TYPE OF
> ROCKCRAWLING"...end quote.
>
> If anyone else doesn't see the oddity in that statement, explain it
> too me, cause in no other terms, that scares the hell out of me.
>
> I quote from their website: "Powertrax Lock-Right Lockers are brute
> force devices for rugged truck applications....Best suited for
> extreme off-road to severe on-road use. proven in the most demanding
> applications worldwide" Exactly how much worse than rockcrawling
> does it get?
>
> Jason Riggs told me that Lockright makes a "hardened" shaft that is
> supposed to be stronger than the stock Lockright shaft...my question
> for them was, why not just make the good one and ditch the old
> one...there was no answer from Powertrax. According to Powertrax the
> hardened shaft has a hole at one end, where as the "weaker" one has a
> hole at both ends. Needless to say I will make sure I get the better
> one for the replacement. ORU sells the shaft, but I have to pay $20
> just so that my locker won't break!
>
> I felt obligated to announce the "philosophy" behind Powertrax's
> Lockright lockers. Unfortunately I am spoiled and cannot run without
> a locker now, but Lockrights are the cheapest and for the mean time
> will have to be my locker of choice.
>
> Dan
> 2000 TJ, currently broken
18828 From: Dan Coley <mt_b@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 1:28pm
Subject: UPDATE:Re: Lockright Owners Please Read!!
It's not so much the locker itself, as much as it's the pinion
shaft. With a visual and physical analysis you could see that the
ends of the pinion shaft that go into each side of the carrier, are
under 'extreme' torque and resulting stress when the carrier
distributes the torque to the axles...that's how mine broke, right at
the end where the pinion shaft goes into the carrier. If you could,
the best way would be to weld the pinion shaft to the
carrier..essentially making one "piece". The combination would be
much stronger than just having a pinion shaft being stressed upon by
the carrier itself. Although this may weaken the carrier itself and
obviously make locker/r&p/carrier maintanance/removal/replacement a
PIA.
--- In az_vjc@y..., Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> Gee, I was considering a Lockright for the front Dana 44 I'm
swapping
> into my YJ. After the swap, I intend to run 35" tires. I was
hoping
> the Dana 44 version of the Lockright would be a little bigger and
> stronger than the Dana 30/35 versions. Anyone know about this?
Maybe
> I should call them and ask.
>
> -Roger
>
> Dan Coley wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> > I did ask about the "rockcrawling" quote, and he said the guy
doesn't
> > know what he's talking about, etc etc...who knows. But he did say
> > that running a Lockright in a jeep with 33in tires is the limit of
> > the pinion shaft...and no one should run one with bigger.
> > <snip>
18829 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 1:35pm
Subject: RE: UPDATE:Re: Lockright Owners Please Read!!
Be very careful welding on the carrier for two reasons. First when
installing a Lock right the Pinion and carrier become the week link. Second
is the carrier is cast. To weld on case you need to pre heat it to 400 deg
F and then after you are done welding you need to make sure it cools slow.
If you do not do this the cast with get brittle and for sure brake.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Coley [mailto:mt_b@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 2:29 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] UPDATE:Re: Lockright Owners Please Read!!
It's not so much the locker itself, as much as it's the pinion
shaft. With a visual and physical analysis you could see that the
ends of the pinion shaft that go into each side of the carrier, are
under 'extreme' torque and resulting stress when the carrier
distributes the torque to the axles...that's how mine broke, right at
the end where the pinion shaft goes into the carrier. If you could,
the best way would be to weld the pinion shaft to the
carrier..essentially making one "piece". The combination would be
much stronger than just having a pinion shaft being stressed upon by
the carrier itself. Although this may weaken the carrier itself and
obviously make locker/r&p/carrier maintanance/removal/replacement a
PIA.
--- In az_vjc@y..., Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> Gee, I was considering a Lockright for the front Dana 44 I'm
swapping
> into my YJ. After the swap, I intend to run 35" tires. I was
hoping
> the Dana 44 version of the Lockright would be a little bigger and
> stronger than the Dana 30/35 versions. Anyone know about this?
Maybe
> I should call them and ask.
>
> -Roger
>
> Dan Coley wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> > I did ask about the "rockcrawling" quote, and he said the guy
doesn't
> > know what he's talking about, etc etc...who knows. But he did say
> > that running a Lockright in a jeep with 33in tires is the limit of
> > the pinion shaft...and no one should run one with bigger.
> > <snip>
18830 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 2:53pm
Subject: RE: I gave you THe Bassett Hound.
I think this guy is one of those damned cat lovers ;)
Cat = The other white meat
LOL
Scott
Joe W wrote:
He was best tasting Bassett hound ever we had for Christmas dinner.
Tank yous very very much for hims. His was not weighted 70 pounds...much
more closer to 66 pounds but still enough to feed wife and 10 childrens.
Sincerely,
Tham Ngugyn Ngo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JEEP THANG [mailto:jeep_thang@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:41 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] I gave you THe Bassett Hound.
>
>
> Hello, I gave someone a Bassett Hound, named Sarge, 5 yo about 70 lbs.
> My wife and I were just wandering how he is Doing.
>
> Sincerely: Larry, Carmen, and Emily
> JEEP THANG FAMILY
>
>
>
>
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18831 From: <Tjacobs@I...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 3:04pm
Subject: Re: YJ Question
So...last time I was under the Jeep, it definitely did not spin. Yet
front
tires rotated freely without turning the shaft or each other. If
something's wrong, any ideas???
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Gevarter [mailto:gev39@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:59 PM
To: Jacobson, Thomas
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] YJ Question
It should spin freely, unless in $WD
(Must have been a Jeeper whoever designed my keyboard; they put
the "$"
on the "4" key...)
Tjacobs@I... wrote:
> Hey all -
>
> Can anyone tell me if the front driveshaft of a YJ (D30, vacuum
> actuator,
> NP231) should or shouldn't spin freely with the vehicle parked, t-
> case in
> 2-hi, tranny in park? I swear to God I've witnessed both, WITHOUT
> moving
> the Jeep! Am trying to locate a new "clunk" and came across this
> driveshaft
> issue while checking the u-joints. Either front tire spins freely
> without
> turning the driveshaft or the other tire (ie. it's not in 4wd).
>
> TIA,
> Tom
18832 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 3:42pm
Subject: Rolls Closure
I agree with closing it like they did with Bull Dog
Canyon. I'm one of the non-lazy people who goes and
gets the "NO-FEE" permit to access the area from the
Mesa FS Office. It's much better than them closing it
completely and I think it's a solution and would cut
down on the traffic going in from Butcher Jones,
although they'd have to put up a lot of fence to cut
down on the traffic from the Four Peaks Road.
With in a matter of 30 mins of waiting for people to
do El Oso Mine Trail last weekend, Atleast 20 people
on quads and dirt bikes showed up and were heading
down towards Suguaro Lake from the rest area on 4
Peaks Road.
Let's not go down with out a fight!
Jake
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18833 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 4:28pm
Subject: Fw: JEEP PETITION - Save the future of Jeep
I don't know if everybody saw this. so for your consideration.
--James
> An online petition has been started to help save the future of Jeep.
>
> The Cherokee is being discontinued, the Grand will soon have IFS and no
> low-range, and the future of the Wrangler is in doubt.
> www.carandtrucknews.com
>
> The link to the petition is
http://www.petitiononline.com/hds2/petition.html
>
> Please sign if you care about Jeep. Thanks for your participation.
>
>
>
>
>
18834 From: <monosyllabicguy@w...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 4:55pm
Subject: Tranny problems
i had finished my T18 swap into my 78 CJ5 last Thursday. i drove it Friday and it leaked really bad from between the adapter plate and the tranny. i pulled the T-case off and went to unbolt the adapter. after that i took off the bull gear. as i pulled on the adapter, the mainshaft came out with it. it came out about two inches. now the front gears are misaligned and some of the front roller bearings fell down into the case. im figuring now that the whole thing has to be disassembled and then reassembled. im thinking about taking it to Aamco but im not sure. they say its gonna cost me between $200 and $250 to do the job. but im pretty sure they can have it done tomorrow. anyways, is there anyone that has a better suggestion or maybe works at a tranny shop??? any opinions are very helpful. i fell pretty dumb now. thanks in advance.
Joey
18835 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 5:03pm
Subject: Re: Mud Springs...Run this sunday?
The Lo-Rangers is doing a maintenance run on the Mud Springs Trail on
Saturday. The Lo-Rangers took over trail adoption from the Arivada 4WDC
when the club cancelled it Arizona chapter.
Linda
trmn8rjn98@a... wrote:
>
> I read the newest OFF-ROAD & now would like to run this trail. Is
> anyone else interested? According to them it is a 3.5 looks like a
> fun trail located up the b-line a little ways before sunflower.
> I have not run this before so would like to have other people long if
> they want. Also anyone who has done it before is welcome to be the
> leader if they like.
> John
18836 From: ebnhils <ebnhils@e...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 5:32pm
Subject: E-mail tax legislation pending
We are forwarding this to everyone because we all exchange so many e-mails
per day (45-75) that this will effect us if it passes.
VOTE NO ON Bill 602P!!!!
Guess the warnings were true.
Federal Bill 602P 5-cents per E-mail sent.
It figures! No more free E-mail! We knew this was coming!! Bill 602P will
permit the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent charge on every delivered
E-mail. Please read the following carefully if you intend to stay online
and
continue using E-mail.
The last few months have revealed an alarming trend in the Government of the
United States attempting to quietly push through legislation that will
affect
our use of the Internet. Under proposed legislation, the US Postal Service
will be attempting to bill E-mail users out of "alternative postage fees"
Bill 602P will permit the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent surcharge on
every E-Mail delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The
consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP.
Washington DC lawyer Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this
legislation from becoming law. The US Postal Service is claiming lost
revenue, due to the proliferation of E-mail, is costing nearly $230,000,000
in revenue per year. You may have noticed their recent ad campaign:
"There is nothing like a letter."
Since the average person received about 10 pieces of E-mail per day in 1998,
the cost of the typical individual would be an additional 50 cents a day
- or over $180 per year - above and beyond their regular Internet costs.
Note that this would be money paid directly to the US Postal Service for a
service they do not even provide.
The whole point of the Internet is democracy and non-interference.
You are already paying an exorbitant price for snail mail because of
bureaucratic efficiency. It currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be
delivered from coast to coast.
If the US Postal Service is allowed to tinker with E-mail, it will mark
the end of the "free" Internet in the United States.
Our congressional representative, Tony Schnell (R) (Massachesettes) has even
suggested a "$20-$40 per month surcharge on all Internet service" above and
beyond the governments proposed E-mail charges. Note that most of the major
newspapers have ignored the story the only exception being the Washingtonian
which called the idea of E-mail surcharge " a useful concept who's time has
come"
(March 6th, 1999 Editorial).
Do not sit by and watch your freedom erode away!
Send this E-mail to EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends
and relatives to write their congressional representative and say "NO" to
Bill 602P. It will only take a few moments of your time and could very well
be instrumental in killing a bill we do not want.
PLEASE FORWARD!
18837 From: Eric Herring <herring@u...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 5:37pm
Subject: RE: tomorrow night
Do we have a meeting place/time for this yet?
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: David Smith [mailto:dwsmith69@h...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:44 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] tommarow night
Here is a little article on tommarow night at 6:00 pm in scottsdale.
http://www.arizonarepublic.com/northeastvalley/articles/0214roberts0214Z7.ht
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18838 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 5:46pm
Subject: RE: engine light
Works for the '97 TJs, but not newer years.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Notestine [mailto:nnote@n...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:43 AM
> To: Greg Stapley; AzVjc
> Subject: [az_vjc] engine light
>
>
> Hey Greg,
> To check what the light means do this...
> After you get back from a run to the store...
> Turn your Jeep off off, then turn the ignition on, off, on , off and then
> on. The light will flash a number code. Say for 23, it will flash twice
> then pause and flash three times. If there is more than one code it will
> pause 5 secs. between codes. When it gives you a code 55, it is
> done. Let
> me know what you get and I'll tell you what it means, I have a code chart
> here.
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>
18839 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 6:06pm
Subject: RE: atlas II
Joe....on this one I have to disagree with you. I wheeled this past
Thanksgiving with a very good friend of mine from CA (he was out visiting).
He had recently installed a 4:1 Tera low in his automatic equipped TJ.
There were a number of times he was unable to stop his vehicle without
slipping it into nuetral. These situations were when he was going down hill
in 4LO range. It was not because his tires were sliding on the trail.....he
simply could not stop it when in 4LO. He is seriously considering rear dics
brakes to provide improved control. (and his brakes are NOT in bad shape,
etc.)
Anyway, with the slight additional advantage of the 4.3:1 reduction
(compared to the 4:1), this situation would be just that much worse.
Later.......Stu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:41 AM
> To: 'Chris Krieg'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] atlas II
>
>
> Ha! The only reason that they recommend the 3.8 for automatic
> transmissions
> is because thats the only way they can get rid of them. <laugh>
>
> I think that the problem with automatics occurs only when you are
> relying on
> the engine for compression breaking while going downhill. Going
> uphill, you
> get a torque multiplication factor of 2:1 (when the engine is driving the
> transmission). Going downhill, the reverse is true... the transmission is
> now trying to drive the engine, and with the torque reduction, compression
> braking doesn't work so well...
>
> Either way... I think it would be a mistake to get the 3.8:1 when
> the 4.3:1
> is available... if you don't like the lower ratios; start off in
> fourth gear
> and it will be just like the stock transfer case <grin>.
>
> Joe
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:17 AM
> > To: arizonajeep@h...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] atlas II
> >
> >
> > Actually, it depends on the tranny you have as to which Atlas
> > to get. Last
> > thing I heard was that any of the gear ratios are good for
> > manual trannys,
> > but if you have an auto tranny, they do no recommend any
> > ration lower than
> > the 3.8. The problem is that the 4.3 ratio will overdrive the
> > tranny and
> > make it very difficult to stop or stay stopped. Never seen
> > this in person,
> > but thats what Advanced Adapters was saying.
> >
> > Chris K
> >
> > > From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@h...>
> > > Reply-To: <arizonajeep@h...>
> > > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:42:11 -0700
> > > To: "'LarryM'" <jeeperaz@q...>, <curiosalicia@a...>,
> > > <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] atlas II
> > >
> > > DO NOT get the 3.8. Go for the 4.3... even if you think
> > you won't need it
> > > now; trust me, later it will save you from purchasing your
> > second Atlas II.
> > >
> > > Joe West
> > > Atlas II 4.3 in a 98TJ
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: LarryM [mailto:jeeperaz@q...]
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 5:32 PM
> > >> To: curiosalicia@a...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] atlas II
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The Atlas tcase has a fixed yoke.... no slip yoke to
> > >> eliminate but you'll
> > >> need at least a new rear driveline.
> > >>
> > >> Sounds like your gearing will be just about right with 35"
> > >> tires. The Atlas
> > >> has either a 3.8 or 4.3 gear reduction in low range so it
> > >> will certainly
> > >> help offroad.
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: <curiosalicia@a...>
> > >> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 5:05 PM
> > >> Subject: [az_vjc] atlas II
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> I am looking at getting the atlas II transfer case for my
> > >> 00" wrangler. I
> > >>> have two questions. One, is there a slip-yoke eliminator
> > >> offered? I will
> > >> be
> > >>> putting on a 2" spacer on my 4" lift. Will i need a slip
> > >> yoke eliminator?
> > >> I
> > >>> also plan to up grade to 35" tires. Now i have 4.56 ring
> > >> and pinion with
> > >> 33"
> > >>> tires. I have heard that a atlas II will also help with the
> > >> larger tires
> > >>> size.(like regearing again) Is that so?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
18840 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 6:18pm
Subject: Re: tomorrow night
Eric we do not even have a trip leader yet:)
I plan on going it would be nice if we could meet some place with someone
who knows the area and go in together. Any takers?
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Herring" <herring@u...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] tomorrow night
> Do we have a meeting place/time for this yet?
>
>
> Eric Herring 92XJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Smith [mailto:dwsmith69@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:44 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] tommarow night
>
>
> Here is a little article on tommarow night at 6:00 pm in scottsdale.
>
http://www.arizonarepublic.com/northeastvalley/articles/0214roberts0214Z7.ht
> ml
>
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18841 From: Greg Mobley <greg85268@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 6:24pm
Subject: hard top
A friend of mine asked me to post this, free hard top for 67 cj to a good home.
Call Roy or Sharon at 480-984-7146
18842 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@e...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 6:12pm
Subject: Re: E-mail tax legislation pending - HOAX
The "Pending Email Legislation" is a hoax. Check out this link for more
information:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/pending/email.htm
Len
18843 From: ebnhils <ebnhils@e...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 6:42pm
Subject: Re: Check engine light came on today
Greg,
A YJ will not set a engine light that is only on the newer systems. I also have a YJ, you can cycle the ignition switch on and off three times leaving it on the last time. This will cause the light to flash a code. When the light flashes count the flashes, the code will come out in a two digits. The first flashes will be the first digit then a one second pause then the second set. There will be a three second pause between codes and then it will repeat are flash a second code if there is one.
I have a service manual with the codes in it, if you can get the codes I can provide more assistance.
Eben
92 YJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Stapley
To: ebnhils@earthlink.net ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com ; ralph@primenet.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
It is a 95 YJ somehwere in the area of 60,000 miles.. I is not gonna be aloose gas cap, because at one point someone stole my gas cap and I did not find out for at a day or so, so I guess the only solution is atleast to have a shop hook it up and see if there was a problem or is or whatever..
Greg
>From: "ebnhils"
>Reply-To: "ebnhils"
>To: , "Ralph Williams"
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
>Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:32:50 -0700
>
>What year and model of Jeep?
>
>The check engine light comes on for a reason. It could be a failed sensor,
>an engine miss or an emission failer. It should be checked to at least see
>what it is.
>I could be as simple as the gas cap is loose. this all depends on the
>vehical. I newer Jeep like the TJ's have an ODB2 system that moniters almost
>all systems.
>
>Eben
>92 YJ
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Ralph Williams
>To:
>Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
>
>
> > I have heard that the check engine light will just come on at a
> > predetermined mileage to remind you to change the O2 sensor. My
> > Sister-in-laws ZJ's came on right at 60,000 and the dealer reset
> > it. My ZJ went through 60,000 without a light coming on....
> > Don't know for sure, but maybe something to think about.
> > I do know that they can come on and have to be hooked to the
> > dealer's computer for a reset.
> > Does the TJ respond to turning the ignition on 3 times in 5
> > seconds to get the fault codes to come out of the computer as in
> > the ZJ? Might look into something like that too.
> > Hope this gives somewhere for you to look,
> > Ralph
> >
> >
> > Greg Stapley wrote:
> > >
> > > I only have about 59000 miles on it.. Would the oxygen sensor
> > > go bad this early.. If so how hard is it to replace..
> > >
> > > >From: linda luik
> > > >Reply-To: minihummer@worldnet.att.net
> > > >To: Greg Stapley
> > > >CC: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
> > > >Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:10:20 -0700
> > > >
> > > >It comes on around 82.5k miles to indicate that the emissions
> > > systems
> > > >require inspection. Chances are the O2 sensor is failing.
> > > >
> > > >Linda
> > > >
> > > >Greg Stapley wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > My check engine light came on today.. I looked in my owners
> > > manual and
> > > > > it says to go to my dealer for help, so hear I am.. I
> > > checked the oil,
> > > > > all the guages read normal and it seems to be running no
> > > different..
> > > > > Has anybody had any experience witht this?.. How do I find
> > > out what
> > > > > the problem is? TIA Late guys
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg
> > > > >
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18844 From: Greg Stapley <love24wheel@h...>
Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 7:01pm
Subject: Re: Check engine light came on today
Odd turn of events, I did disconnect the battery last night, but when my wife drove to school today it still came on.. When I got off work I decided to drive across town to my recruiters office, 1. to give him some paperwork, and 2. to try and get the codes.. But the light did not come on? I thought this was wierd but I will take it.. is this normal, should I be more concerned?
Greg
>From: "ebnhils"
>Reply-To: "ebnhils"
>To: , , "Greg Stapley"
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:42:18 -0700
>
>Greg,
>
>A YJ will not set a engine light that is only on the newer systems. I also have a YJ, you can cycle the ignition switch on and off three times leaving it on the last time. This will cause the light to flash a code. When the light flashes count the flashes, the code will come out in a two digits. The first flashes will be the first digit then a one second pause then the second set. There will be a three second pause between codes and then it will repeat are flash a second code if there is one.
>
>I have a service manual with the codes in it, if you can get the codes I can provide more assistance.
>
>Eben
>92 YJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Greg Stapley
> To: ebnhils@earthlink.net ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com ; ralph@primenet.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
>
>
> It is a 95 YJ somehwere in the area of 60,000 miles.. I is not gonna be aloose gas cap, because at one point someone stole my gas cap and I did not find out for at a day or so, so I guess the only solution is atleast to have a shop hook it up and see if there was a problem or is or whatever..
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> >From: "ebnhils"
> >Reply-To: "ebnhils"
> >To: , "Ralph Williams"
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
> >Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:32:50 -0700
> >
> >What year and model of Jeep?
> >
> >The check engine light comes on for a reason. It could be a failed sensor,
> >an engine miss or an emission failer. It should be checked to at least see
> >what it is.
> >I could be as simple as the gas cap is loose. this all depends on the
> >vehical. I newer Jeep like the TJ's have an ODB2 system that moniters almost
> >all systems.
> >
> >Eben
> >92 YJ
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Ralph Williams
> >To:
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:07 PM
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
> >
> >
> > > I have heard that the check engine light will just come on at a
> > > predetermined mileage to remind you to change the O2 sensor. My
> > > Sister-in-laws ZJ's came on right at 60,000 and the dealer reset
> > > it. My ZJ went through 60,000 without a light coming on....
> > > Don't know for sure, but maybe something to think about.
> > > I do know that they can come on and have to be hooked to the
> > > dealer's computer for a reset.
> > > Does the TJ respond to turning the ignition on 3 times in 5
> > > seconds to get the fault codes to come out of the computer as in
> > > the ZJ? Might look into something like that too.
> > > Hope this gives somewhere for you to look,
> > > Ralph
> > >
> > >
> > > Greg Stapley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I only have about 59000 miles on it.. Would the oxygen sensor
> > > > go bad this early.. If so how hard is it to replace..
> > > >
> > > > >From: linda luik
> > > > >Reply-To: minihummer@worldnet.att.net
> > > > >To: Greg Stapley
> > > > >CC: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check engine light came on today
> > > > >Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:10:20 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >It comes on around 82.5k miles to indicate that the emissions
> > > > systems
> > > > >require inspection. Chances are the O2 sensor is failing.
> > > > >
> > > > >Linda
> > > > >
> > > > >Greg Stapley wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My check engine light came on today.. I looked in my owners
> > > > manual and
> > > > > > it says to go to my dealer for help, so hear I am.. I
> > > > checked the oil,
> > > > > > all the guages read normal and it seems to be running no
> > > > different..
> > > > > > Has anybody had any experience witht this?.. How do I find
> > > > out what
> > > > > > the problem is? TIA Late guys
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Greg
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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