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18595 From: Eric Lawson <elawson@i...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 5:21pm
Subject: Re: Lighting Question
>Is it OK to run 4 KC's (100 watts each) all to one on/off switch,
>without using a relay?
You can do this if you get a switch that is rated for the 40 or so amps,
use 8 or even 6 guage wire and 12 or 10 gauge fusable link wire to prevent
Car-B-Q problems.
Better to get a relay use a smaller switch. When you get into high
currents and low voltages, the wire sizes get big to keep the voltage
drop from getting too big.
Check out "The Lighthouse". It is south of McDowell Rd in the "30
something" Ave area. They have all sorts of auto electrical and lighting
goodies I've needed some weird electrical stuff for the work truck and
they've always had everything I've needed.
The relay that you will need to get will need to be able to remain
energized continuously. The Ford solenoids (starter relays) look like
great at first glance, but they will quickly die if left "on" for long
periods of time.
Eric
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18596 From: <azjeeper@n...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 5:34pm
Subject: test
18597 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 5:40pm
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - El Oso Mine - Saturday, February 10, 2001
Hello All,
This is an automated message from the website, please do not reply to it!
Jake lead a trail run Saturday, February 10, 2001 across El Oso Mine
We had a pretty good turn out for the trip. We had 3 TJs, and a Grand Cherokee show up for the run. We took off about 10:30 and headed up to the top of Four Peaks. Continued on and found the trailhead for the mine about 1pm where we came to our first obstacle. Once past that we continued on past El Oso Mine and stopped for lunch. After lunch we got to play in the snow, some spots we had a little over a foot. Thank you Larry and Rich for your guidance on the trail with your GPS. Also thanks to Bryan for blazing through the snow so us stock Jeeps could make it through.
All in all it was a great trip. Not overly challenged, but there were a few spots that were quite challenging.
I had a great time and hope to see everyone out on the trails soon!
Click Here for more Information and to View Pictures
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
18598 From: <steve94yj@y...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 5:42pm
Subject: test
18599 From: Patrick Green <pgreen@c...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 5:53pm
Subject: Sorry......not about Jeeps
My other ( and even more expensive! ) hobby is raising , training and showing German Shepherds. Last wednesday I had to drive down to Casa Grande and repo two of my 13 month old pet puppies from some people that are getting divorced and moving to apartments.....etc, you know the story. Anyway these are beautiful, AKC Champion Sired, black and tan pups ( yes pups, shepherds are'nt adults until they're about two and a half ), one male (neutered), one female (spayed). They have been together since they were babies and so we would like to keep them together if possible but I know that would be a lot for some people ( we have eight, including these kids' brother and sister) so we will split them up if we have to. The boy is going to be huge and is a great big lover, the girl is smaller (as she should be) and is really sweet, both have all shots, AKC papers..etc, of course. If someone out there has a Fenced yard and is ready to make family members of these guys please give me a call, I'll let them go for $200 apiece or $300 to keep them together. They are the perfect age and temperment for obedience,tracking,herding, search and rescue or anything else you have in mind other than being parked in the back yard.
P.S if it helps these guys really do like to ride in a JEEP. ( I don't think its that they actually have anything against a ford or a chevy,etc but my Jeep does smell , read STINK, like them.)
18600 From: <steve94yj@y...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 6:04pm
Subject: Name instead of Email address??
I give up..I've tried everything. Can someone tell me how to
change this. Putting my name intead of email address in the
message board????? TIA
18601 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 6:31pm
Subject: Martinez Canyon Maintance Run Pics
I had a great time today thanks to Doug and Chris for leading the run. Thanks to Linda also for supplying the fencing and posts they worked great. I did not get a lot of pics of the run this time we kept moving pretty well all day but I got some good ones of the repair. What a beautiful area this is it was my first time on this run and I was very impressed they canyon and mine area are very pretty.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1210105&a=11501303
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
18602 From: <aphrodsyak@a...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 1:51pm
Subject: sun day run!!!
oK HERE I GO!!!!! We are havin a run.. there are four so far but we
need more. DAN ARE YOU OUT THERE!!!
We are meeting at the parking lot off table mesa road at 10:00 am then w
are looking to run lower and if all goes well upper terminator, that gives
people who have to make it a short day the option of baling .
the trails are about a 4. I have seen people with good flex make it
through without a locker. All are welcome... Hope to see some new faces.
ERIC
BIG tires, Stronger axles.
(indian name) changed.
18603 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 7:04pm
Subject: Re: Four Peaks
Four Peaks Rd is off of SR 87...north of Ft. McDowell. Class 2 to 2+
It's a nice scenic drive, and you can take it across to the Tonto Basin, and
come back via Apache Trail. El Oso is also off of Four Peaks...along the
ridge.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jeepguy@z...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 2:22 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Four Peaks
> There is nothing in the trail reports about the four peaks. I have
> been wanting to do some wheeling out there, but don't know how to get
> there or anything. Any info would be greatly appreciated! -Rob
>
>
>
>
18604 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 7:51pm
Subject: Re: Motor mount woes on XJ..
I'd get that broken bolt fixed soon. It gets ugly when all 3 of them shear off. I've been there, its not fun limping home with all the engine's weight on the manifold which is laying on the fender :(
If your worried about the mounts, replace them with poly mounts. I got my poly mounts from Macromotive for $70. You should'nt have to replace these for a LONG time.
Scott
brian.pavlich@igets.net wrote:
I've been trying to find the elusive 'clunk' that I hear in the front
end when hitting bumps. I've checked the upper/lower control arms,
track bar, tightened some loose swaybar bolts, and just about any
bolt I can see in the front end.. Not much difference..
Then I checked the motor mount on the left side, all bolts seem
tight. I check the right side and notice a loose bolt which actually
turns out to be busted halfway down the shaft. Its one of the three
that bolt to the engine. So now I have only 2 of 3 holding the engine
to the mount.
My question is how can you tell if the big rubber bushing is bad or
worn out? Also, how the heck do you get the remaining part of the
bolt out of the engine so I can replace it?
Is this gonna mean I need to drop the engine and have some shop pull
that bolt out? It sounds expensive..
:(
- Brian (Zoner)
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18605 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 7:52pm
Subject: More Martinez Maintenance Run Pics
First of all, I want to thank all that came out today. We had myself, Linda Luik, Todd Lovstrom, Doug Ballard, Larry Greene, Jim Florence (and friends in the F-150 - sorry, I didn't catch their names), Jeff Meade, and Randy Davis.
We met at the usual Texaco in FJ and headed down to Martinez. At the cabin, We dropped off Jim's friend's F-150 and headed up the canyon. It was a pretty non-eventful (but very fun) run up to the washout. Originally, I had thought the washout was more up near the top (stupid feeble mind!), but it was actually on one of the lower switchbacks, but still had a long drop if you rolled out of it. Someone before us had already stacked some rocks in the washout and that made it a bit easier to cross. We decided to put up a fence (thanks Linda for the fence and posts!) in the washout just next to the trail to keep the rock from rolling out during the next storm and created a couple psuedo dams to hopefully try to catch whatever does wash down in to the washout to build the area back up. The work went pretty quickly with the number of people we had helping. Once the work was done we climbed the remaining switchback up to the mine where we stopped to explore the mine. Jeff Meade changed out a rear driveshaft u-joint that had been making noise as a "just in case" precaution. From their, we finished the trail by crawling down the Sluice (not the Luge) and then back down to the cabin.
The trail was pretty busy today with 2 other non-AZVJC groups following us up the canyon. Sure was a lot of fun and the weather could not have been better. Even saw some snow in the canyon
Oh well, enough of my ramblings. Here's the few pics I took:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=637162&a=11502294
Thanks again everybody!
Chris K
18606 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 8:25pm
Subject: Tera 4:1 and 2LO installed
To all of those that sent me comments and for those that said "let me know
how it turns out cause I am thinking about doing that".....it is done.
It took my friend and I a bit over 5 hours to do the job (not including time
out for lunch, etc.). We took it nice and slow and tried to use every tool
in his toolbox, which included stud pullers, seal pullers, torque wrenches,
3'8" & 1/2" air impact wrenches, and an assortment of sockets, open end
wrenches, hammers, punches, and two big honkin' screwdrivers, (aka, pry
bars).
We kept Murphy at arms length today and he never got into the project,
except for me needing to run to the local Autozone to buy some RTV sealant
(Tera forgot to include the tube they claim is there, per the parts list).
Other than that, it went nicely.
I'll have a detailed write-up with plenty of photos on my web page by the
end of the weekend. In a couple of weeks, the t-case will be going into my
TJ along with a few other parts. (still waiting for the last of them to
show up)
Again, thanks to all that forwarded helpful hints!
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ
http://www.stu-offroad.com
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
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18607 From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 9:09pm
Subject: Terminator 02-10-01
A few photos of todays run up Lower Terminator. With the pools below
each obstacle it made for some fun loving lack o traction.
<a href="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?
u=1164347&a=11502958">
18608 From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 9:13pm
Subject: Terminator 02-10-01
OK I'm an idiot! Maybe these are the
photos.http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1164347&a=11502958
18609 From: <trmn8rjn98@a...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 10:04pm
Subject: Looking for a postal Jeep in a junkyard in phx area
Hi all I am hoping some of you fellow junkyard lookers might have
seen a dj in a junk yard around here. I am looking for one with the
d44 rear still in & intact.
TIA
John
18610 From: KHD1972 <KHD1972@m...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 11:39pm
Subject: Re: Four Peaks
Let me know when you're goin! I wouldn't mind runnin that while I wait for
money to prep my YJ for some tougher trails!
Keirvan
----- Original Message -----
From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <Jeepguy@z...>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Four Peaks
> Four Peaks Rd is off of SR 87...north of Ft. McDowell. Class 2 to 2+
>
> It's a nice scenic drive, and you can take it across to the Tonto Basin,
and
> come back via Apache Trail. El Oso is also off of Four Peaks...along the
> ridge.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Jeepguy@z...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 2:22 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Four Peaks
>
>
> > There is nothing in the trail reports about the four peaks. I have
> > been wanting to do some wheeling out there, but don't know how to get
> > there or anything. Any info would be greatly appreciated! -Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
18611 From: Rick Hall <ricknhall@h...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 3:37am
Subject: Factory Service Manuals?
Can anyone give me a couple of sources for getting a FSM? Also, if anyone
knows why the FSM for a 98TJ is $50 more than a 97 of 99 I'd sure like to be
clued in. I have found a couple of places that sell the manuals besides the
dealer and the 98 price is always $40 to $50 more (the dealer doesn't know
why either).
TIA
Rick
18612 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 4:42am
Subject: Jeep for sale
I am forwarding this to the group at the request of the owner/author:
-----------------------------------
Hi Jon. My name is George Schroeder. I'm Having trouble w/my computer & unable to access messaging. I was hoping that you could forward this to the group for me.
I have a 1998 tj that I must sell quickly. It has: 4.0L, 5speed, ac, cc, sound bar w/am/fm/cassette, rear hide-a-trunk, 3 inch black diamond lift, superlift rockrunner control arms, tomken gas tank skid plate, 2 sets tires & wheels, factory soft top w/full doors, steel horse hard top, safari top, custom rocker panel guards, R.E. quick disconnects, dana 44 rear axle w/3:73 gears & track-lok. Excellent condition. Religious maintenance.
27.5K miles. $18,500 obo. Someone will get a great Jeep. 623-878-2174.
Thanks for your help. George Schroeder
Jon Loveless
(480) 816-6240
18613 From: Peter Zuleger <azxjman@h...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 4:58am
Subject: 8.25 rear end
I,m looking to swap out my dana 35 to a 8 1/4 on my xj. Does anybody
have one or know of a source that is reasonable. Most of the wrecking
yard want 700+. It need to be open
Peter
18614 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 5:14am
Subject: 4 Peaks
The reason you don't hear or see much about 4Peaks here is because most don't think of it as "off road". Here is some info:
You can get to the entrance to 4Peaks Road about 10 miles North of Shea Blvd. off SR 87. It is right hand turn off of 87 and is about 16 miles to the top. The turnoff is well marked as 4Peaks Road. The road is graded dirt for the first half and passable by about any vehicle with some clearance (ie - pickup truck or 'big' sedan. Probably a bad idea to try it in a Honda.) The second half has a couple of spots with small rocks - no challenge to a Jeep or other clearance vehicle but it will stop most passenger cars with smart drivers. The Summit is just under 6000 feet, so is a good place to go in the Summer heat. At the top you can go right to Lone Pine trail head and hike to the real summit (or near to it). There are also some trail heads along the way.
At the top you have several choices. You can return the way you came. Or, you can continue down the other side. The road down is about 9 miles and ends up on SR188 in Punkin Center. If you go left there is a place for a brew and an air hose to fill your tires. Keep going left and SR188 ends at SR87. If you go right, SR188 ends at SR88 at Roosevelt Dam. You can hook up with the Apache Trail which will take you back to Apache Junction and Mesa or continue on to Globe.
Also at the summit, if you head down the other side just before the microwave station you can take a left and there is some decent wheeling back in there. El Oso mine and the Edwards Park run are back there. They are rated a 3-3.5 but are out and back - no exit has been found back there.
One other thing. If you start out at the Coves of Lake Saguaro - Butcher Jones Park - you can take almost any one of those trails known as the Rolls and Coves and eventually meet up with FR13 which will take you to 4 Peaks Road.
It is a nice trip for the scenery along the way, the view and cool temperatures. After you have done it once or twice the trip up gets tedious. It is very washboard but at the same time good enough to make you want to 20-30 mph - also rough enough to shake and rattle you at 20-30 mph.
At 11:19 PM 2/10/2001 +0000, you wrote:
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 21:22:28 -0000
From: Jeepguy@zombieweb.com
Subject: Four Peaks
There is nothing in the trail reports about the four peaks. I have
been wanting to do some wheeling out there, but don't know how to get
there or anything. Any info would be greatly appreciated! -Rob
18615 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 6:32am
Subject: Quick 4 Peaks SNOW run!!
OK, my wife and my 16 month old son want to go see
snow. We are going to go up to 4 Peaks and find some.
Anyone interested in going can give me a call, I am
getting ready to leave in a few and won't be available
untill 10:15 am. Easy trip, stock jeeps can make it.
Bring the family for a few hours of snowball fights
and snowmen!!!
Call me after 10:00, if I don't answer, leave a
message.
480-628-0204 cell phone.
I would like to have atleast one other person come
along, my hi-lift is not on my jeep right now, even
though we prob won't need it.
Mike Baney
=====
2001 TJ
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18616 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 6:40am
Subject: RE: Factory Service Manuals?
There is, to the best of my knowledge, only one source. In fact, when I
bought my FSM, the dealer parts counter just gave me a toll free # and told
me to go order it myself (5 star dealership service at its peak). Anyway,
it was right at $100. I asked other TJ owners about that and they commented
that is what they paid. Is this the price you are quoting? (you didn't
mention)
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ
http://www.stu-offroad.com
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Hall [mailto:ricknhall@h...]
>Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 04:37
>To: AZVJC
>Subject: [az_vjc] Factory Service Manuals?
>
>
>Can anyone give me a couple of sources for getting a FSM? Also, if anyone
>knows why the FSM for a 98TJ is $50 more than a 97 of 99 I'd sure
>like to be
>clued in. I have found a couple of places that sell the manuals
>besides the
>dealer and the 98 price is always $40 to $50 more (the dealer doesn't know
>why either).
>
>TIA
>Rick
>
>
>
>
>
18617 From: <DAVISis@h...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 7:46am
Subject: Need Help with Discon question
99 TJ with a 4" lift. I have the TeraFlex new gen swaybar discons.
I keep losing the pass side hitch pin and washer. Kinda tired of
it. What are the ramifications (besides some extra loose travel) if
I keep the swaybar disconnected all the time (on and off road)?
TIA,
Glen
18618 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 7:55am
Subject: Re: Need Help with Discon question
My opinion...but not a good idea...esp on a SWB vehicle. You'll be fine
driving this way and will get used to the handling characteristics....But,
in an emergency maneuver (when you least expect it), you and others will
have wished you had it on.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <DAVISis@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:46 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Need Help with Discon question
> 99 TJ with a 4" lift. I have the TeraFlex new gen swaybar discons.
> I keep losing the pass side hitch pin and washer. Kinda tired of
> it. What are the ramifications (besides some extra loose travel) if
> I keep the swaybar disconnected all the time (on and off road)?
>
> TIA,
>
> Glen
>
>
>
>
18619 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 7:55am
Subject: More Martinez Maintenance Run Pics
Sorry if this comes thru twice. I sent it yesterday and never saw it posted after that.
First of all, I want to thank all that came out today. We had myself, Linda Luik, Todd Lovstrom, Doug Ballard, Larry Greene, Jim Florence (and friends in the F-150 - sorry, I didn't catch their names), Jeff Meade, and Randy Davis.
We met at the usual Texaco in FJ and headed down to Martinez. At the cabin, We dropped off Jim's friend's F-150 and headed up the canyon. It was a pretty non-eventful (but very fun) run up to the washout. Originally, I had thought the washout was more up near the top (stupid feeble mind!), but it was actually on one of the lower switchbacks, but still had a long drop if you rolled out of it. Someone before us had already stacked some rocks in the washout and that made it a bit easier to cross. We decided to put up a fence (thanks Linda for the fence and posts!) in the washout just next to the trail to keep the rock from rolling out during the next storm and created a couple psuedo dams to hopefully try to catch whatever does wash down in to the washout to build the area back up. The work went pretty quickly with the number of people we had helping. Once the work was done we climbed the remaining switchback up to the mine where we stopped to explore the mine. Jeff Meade changed out a rear driveshaft u-joint that had been making noise as a "just in case" precaution. From their, we finished the trail by crawling down the Sluice (not the Luge) and then back down to the cabin.
The trail was pretty busy today with 2 other non-AZVJC groups following us up the canyon. Sure was a lot of fun and the weather could not have been better. Even saw some snow in the canyon
Oh well, enough of my ramblings. Here's the few pics I took:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=637162&a=11502294
Thanks again everybody!
Chris K
18595 From: Eric Lawson <elawson@i...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 5:21pm
Subject: Re: Lighting Question
>Is it OK to run 4 KC's (100 watts each) all to one on/off switch,
>without using a relay?
You can do this if you get a switch that is rated for the 40 or so amps,
use 8 or even 6 guage wire and 12 or 10 gauge fusable link wire to prevent
Car-B-Q problems.
Better to get a relay use a smaller switch. When you get into high
currents and low voltages, the wire sizes get big to keep the voltage
drop from getting too big.
Check out "The Lighthouse". It is south of McDowell Rd in the "30
something" Ave area. They have all sorts of auto electrical and lighting
goodies I've needed some weird electrical stuff for the work truck and
they've always had everything I've needed.
The relay that you will need to get will need to be able to remain
energized continuously. The Ford solenoids (starter relays) look like
great at first glance, but they will quickly die if left "on" for long
periods of time.
Eric
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18596 From: <azjeeper@n...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 5:34pm
Subject: test
18597 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 5:40pm
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - El Oso Mine - Saturday, February 10, 2001
Hello All,
This is an automated message from the website, please do not reply to it!
Jake lead a trail run Saturday, February 10, 2001 across El Oso Mine
We had a pretty good turn out for the trip. We had 3 TJs, and a Grand Cherokee show up for the run. We took off about 10:30 and headed up to the top of Four Peaks. Continued on and found the trailhead for the mine about 1pm where we came to our first obstacle. Once past that we continued on past El Oso Mine and stopped for lunch. After lunch we got to play in the snow, some spots we had a little over a foot. Thank you Larry and Rich for your guidance on the trail with your GPS. Also thanks to Bryan for blazing through the snow so us stock Jeeps could make it through.
All in all it was a great trip. Not overly challenged, but there were a few spots that were quite challenging.
I had a great time and hope to see everyone out on the trails soon!
Click Here for more Information and to View Pictures
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
18598 From: <steve94yj@y...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 5:42pm
Subject: test
18599 From: Patrick Green <pgreen@c...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 5:53pm
Subject: Sorry......not about Jeeps
My other ( and even more expensive! ) hobby is raising , training and showing German Shepherds. Last wednesday I had to drive down to Casa Grande and repo two of my 13 month old pet puppies from some people that are getting divorced and moving to apartments.....etc, you know the story. Anyway these are beautiful, AKC Champion Sired, black and tan pups ( yes pups, shepherds are'nt adults until they're about two and a half ), one male (neutered), one female (spayed). They have been together since they were babies and so we would like to keep them together if possible but I know that would be a lot for some people ( we have eight, including these kids' brother and sister) so we will split them up if we have to. The boy is going to be huge and is a great big lover, the girl is smaller (as she should be) and is really sweet, both have all shots, AKC papers..etc, of course. If someone out there has a Fenced yard and is ready to make family members of these guys please give me a call, I'll let them go for $200 apiece or $300 to keep them together. They are the perfect age and temperment for obedience,tracking,herding, search and rescue or anything else you have in mind other than being parked in the back yard.
P.S if it helps these guys really do like to ride in a JEEP. ( I don't think its that they actually have anything against a ford or a chevy,etc but my Jeep does smell , read STINK, like them.)
18600 From: <steve94yj@y...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 6:04pm
Subject: Name instead of Email address??
I give up..I've tried everything. Can someone tell me how to
change this. Putting my name intead of email address in the
message board????? TIA
18601 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 6:31pm
Subject: Martinez Canyon Maintance Run Pics
I had a great time today thanks to Doug and Chris for leading the run. Thanks to Linda also for supplying the fencing and posts they worked great. I did not get a lot of pics of the run this time we kept moving pretty well all day but I got some good ones of the repair. What a beautiful area this is it was my first time on this run and I was very impressed they canyon and mine area are very pretty.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1210105&a=11501303
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
18602 From: <aphrodsyak@a...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 1:51pm
Subject: sun day run!!!
oK HERE I GO!!!!! We are havin a run.. there are four so far but we
need more. DAN ARE YOU OUT THERE!!!
We are meeting at the parking lot off table mesa road at 10:00 am then w
are looking to run lower and if all goes well upper terminator, that gives
people who have to make it a short day the option of baling .
the trails are about a 4. I have seen people with good flex make it
through without a locker. All are welcome... Hope to see some new faces.
ERIC
BIG tires, Stronger axles.
(indian name) changed.
18603 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 7:04pm
Subject: Re: Four Peaks
Four Peaks Rd is off of SR 87...north of Ft. McDowell. Class 2 to 2+
It's a nice scenic drive, and you can take it across to the Tonto Basin, and
come back via Apache Trail. El Oso is also off of Four Peaks...along the
ridge.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jeepguy@z...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 2:22 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Four Peaks
> There is nothing in the trail reports about the four peaks. I have
> been wanting to do some wheeling out there, but don't know how to get
> there or anything. Any info would be greatly appreciated! -Rob
>
>
>
>
18604 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 7:51pm
Subject: Re: Motor mount woes on XJ..
I'd get that broken bolt fixed soon. It gets ugly when all 3 of them shear off. I've been there, its not fun limping home with all the engine's weight on the manifold which is laying on the fender :(
If your worried about the mounts, replace them with poly mounts. I got my poly mounts from Macromotive for $70. You should'nt have to replace these for a LONG time.
Scott
brian.pavlich@igets.net wrote:
I've been trying to find the elusive 'clunk' that I hear in the front
end when hitting bumps. I've checked the upper/lower control arms,
track bar, tightened some loose swaybar bolts, and just about any
bolt I can see in the front end.. Not much difference..
Then I checked the motor mount on the left side, all bolts seem
tight. I check the right side and notice a loose bolt which actually
turns out to be busted halfway down the shaft. Its one of the three
that bolt to the engine. So now I have only 2 of 3 holding the engine
to the mount.
My question is how can you tell if the big rubber bushing is bad or
worn out? Also, how the heck do you get the remaining part of the
bolt out of the engine so I can replace it?
Is this gonna mean I need to drop the engine and have some shop pull
that bolt out? It sounds expensive..
:(
- Brian (Zoner)
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18605 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 7:52pm
Subject: More Martinez Maintenance Run Pics
First of all, I want to thank all that came out today. We had myself, Linda Luik, Todd Lovstrom, Doug Ballard, Larry Greene, Jim Florence (and friends in the F-150 - sorry, I didn't catch their names), Jeff Meade, and Randy Davis.
We met at the usual Texaco in FJ and headed down to Martinez. At the cabin, We dropped off Jim's friend's F-150 and headed up the canyon. It was a pretty non-eventful (but very fun) run up to the washout. Originally, I had thought the washout was more up near the top (stupid feeble mind!), but it was actually on one of the lower switchbacks, but still had a long drop if you rolled out of it. Someone before us had already stacked some rocks in the washout and that made it a bit easier to cross. We decided to put up a fence (thanks Linda for the fence and posts!) in the washout just next to the trail to keep the rock from rolling out during the next storm and created a couple psuedo dams to hopefully try to catch whatever does wash down in to the washout to build the area back up. The work went pretty quickly with the number of people we had helping. Once the work was done we climbed the remaining switchback up to the mine where we stopped to explore the mine. Jeff Meade changed out a rear driveshaft u-joint that had been making noise as a "just in case" precaution. From their, we finished the trail by crawling down the Sluice (not the Luge) and then back down to the cabin.
The trail was pretty busy today with 2 other non-AZVJC groups following us up the canyon. Sure was a lot of fun and the weather could not have been better. Even saw some snow in the canyon
Oh well, enough of my ramblings. Here's the few pics I took:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=637162&a=11502294
Thanks again everybody!
Chris K
18606 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 8:25pm
Subject: Tera 4:1 and 2LO installed
To all of those that sent me comments and for those that said "let me know
how it turns out cause I am thinking about doing that".....it is done.
It took my friend and I a bit over 5 hours to do the job (not including time
out for lunch, etc.). We took it nice and slow and tried to use every tool
in his toolbox, which included stud pullers, seal pullers, torque wrenches,
3'8" & 1/2" air impact wrenches, and an assortment of sockets, open end
wrenches, hammers, punches, and two big honkin' screwdrivers, (aka, pry
bars).
We kept Murphy at arms length today and he never got into the project,
except for me needing to run to the local Autozone to buy some RTV sealant
(Tera forgot to include the tube they claim is there, per the parts list).
Other than that, it went nicely.
I'll have a detailed write-up with plenty of photos on my web page by the
end of the weekend. In a couple of weeks, the t-case will be going into my
TJ along with a few other parts. (still waiting for the last of them to
show up)
Again, thanks to all that forwarded helpful hints!
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ
http://www.stu-offroad.com
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
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18607 From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 9:09pm
Subject: Terminator 02-10-01
A few photos of todays run up Lower Terminator. With the pools below
each obstacle it made for some fun loving lack o traction.
<a href="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?
u=1164347&a=11502958">
18608 From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 9:13pm
Subject: Terminator 02-10-01
OK I'm an idiot! Maybe these are the
photos.http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1164347&a=11502958
18609 From: <trmn8rjn98@a...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 10:04pm
Subject: Looking for a postal Jeep in a junkyard in phx area
Hi all I am hoping some of you fellow junkyard lookers might have
seen a dj in a junk yard around here. I am looking for one with the
d44 rear still in & intact.
TIA
John
18610 From: KHD1972 <KHD1972@m...>
Date: Sat Feb 10, 2001 11:39pm
Subject: Re: Four Peaks
Let me know when you're goin! I wouldn't mind runnin that while I wait for
money to prep my YJ for some tougher trails!
Keirvan
----- Original Message -----
From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <Jeepguy@z...>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Four Peaks
> Four Peaks Rd is off of SR 87...north of Ft. McDowell. Class 2 to 2+
>
> It's a nice scenic drive, and you can take it across to the Tonto Basin,
and
> come back via Apache Trail. El Oso is also off of Four Peaks...along the
> ridge.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Jeepguy@z...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 2:22 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Four Peaks
>
>
> > There is nothing in the trail reports about the four peaks. I have
> > been wanting to do some wheeling out there, but don't know how to get
> > there or anything. Any info would be greatly appreciated! -Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
18611 From: Rick Hall <ricknhall@h...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 3:37am
Subject: Factory Service Manuals?
Can anyone give me a couple of sources for getting a FSM? Also, if anyone
knows why the FSM for a 98TJ is $50 more than a 97 of 99 I'd sure like to be
clued in. I have found a couple of places that sell the manuals besides the
dealer and the 98 price is always $40 to $50 more (the dealer doesn't know
why either).
TIA
Rick
18612 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 4:42am
Subject: Jeep for sale
I am forwarding this to the group at the request of the owner/author:
-----------------------------------
Hi Jon. My name is George Schroeder. I'm Having trouble w/my computer & unable to access messaging. I was hoping that you could forward this to the group for me.
I have a 1998 tj that I must sell quickly. It has: 4.0L, 5speed, ac, cc, sound bar w/am/fm/cassette, rear hide-a-trunk, 3 inch black diamond lift, superlift rockrunner control arms, tomken gas tank skid plate, 2 sets tires & wheels, factory soft top w/full doors, steel horse hard top, safari top, custom rocker panel guards, R.E. quick disconnects, dana 44 rear axle w/3:73 gears & track-lok. Excellent condition. Religious maintenance.
27.5K miles. $18,500 obo. Someone will get a great Jeep. 623-878-2174.
Thanks for your help. George Schroeder
Jon Loveless
(480) 816-6240
18613 From: Peter Zuleger <azxjman@h...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 4:58am
Subject: 8.25 rear end
I,m looking to swap out my dana 35 to a 8 1/4 on my xj. Does anybody
have one or know of a source that is reasonable. Most of the wrecking
yard want 700+. It need to be open
Peter
18614 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 5:14am
Subject: 4 Peaks
The reason you don't hear or see much about 4Peaks here is because most don't think of it as "off road". Here is some info:
You can get to the entrance to 4Peaks Road about 10 miles North of Shea Blvd. off SR 87. It is right hand turn off of 87 and is about 16 miles to the top. The turnoff is well marked as 4Peaks Road. The road is graded dirt for the first half and passable by about any vehicle with some clearance (ie - pickup truck or 'big' sedan. Probably a bad idea to try it in a Honda.) The second half has a couple of spots with small rocks - no challenge to a Jeep or other clearance vehicle but it will stop most passenger cars with smart drivers. The Summit is just under 6000 feet, so is a good place to go in the Summer heat. At the top you can go right to Lone Pine trail head and hike to the real summit (or near to it). There are also some trail heads along the way.
At the top you have several choices. You can return the way you came. Or, you can continue down the other side. The road down is about 9 miles and ends up on SR188 in Punkin Center. If you go left there is a place for a brew and an air hose to fill your tires. Keep going left and SR188 ends at SR87. If you go right, SR188 ends at SR88 at Roosevelt Dam. You can hook up with the Apache Trail which will take you back to Apache Junction and Mesa or continue on to Globe.
Also at the summit, if you head down the other side just before the microwave station you can take a left and there is some decent wheeling back in there. El Oso mine and the Edwards Park run are back there. They are rated a 3-3.5 but are out and back - no exit has been found back there.
One other thing. If you start out at the Coves of Lake Saguaro - Butcher Jones Park - you can take almost any one of those trails known as the Rolls and Coves and eventually meet up with FR13 which will take you to 4 Peaks Road.
It is a nice trip for the scenery along the way, the view and cool temperatures. After you have done it once or twice the trip up gets tedious. It is very washboard but at the same time good enough to make you want to 20-30 mph - also rough enough to shake and rattle you at 20-30 mph.
At 11:19 PM 2/10/2001 +0000, you wrote:
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 21:22:28 -0000
From: Jeepguy@zombieweb.com
Subject: Four Peaks
There is nothing in the trail reports about the four peaks. I have
been wanting to do some wheeling out there, but don't know how to get
there or anything. Any info would be greatly appreciated! -Rob
18615 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 6:32am
Subject: Quick 4 Peaks SNOW run!!
OK, my wife and my 16 month old son want to go see
snow. We are going to go up to 4 Peaks and find some.
Anyone interested in going can give me a call, I am
getting ready to leave in a few and won't be available
untill 10:15 am. Easy trip, stock jeeps can make it.
Bring the family for a few hours of snowball fights
and snowmen!!!
Call me after 10:00, if I don't answer, leave a
message.
480-628-0204 cell phone.
I would like to have atleast one other person come
along, my hi-lift is not on my jeep right now, even
though we prob won't need it.
Mike Baney
=====
2001 TJ
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18616 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 6:40am
Subject: RE: Factory Service Manuals?
There is, to the best of my knowledge, only one source. In fact, when I
bought my FSM, the dealer parts counter just gave me a toll free # and told
me to go order it myself (5 star dealership service at its peak). Anyway,
it was right at $100. I asked other TJ owners about that and they commented
that is what they paid. Is this the price you are quoting? (you didn't
mention)
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ
http://www.stu-offroad.com
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Hall [mailto:ricknhall@h...]
>Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 04:37
>To: AZVJC
>Subject: [az_vjc] Factory Service Manuals?
>
>
>Can anyone give me a couple of sources for getting a FSM? Also, if anyone
>knows why the FSM for a 98TJ is $50 more than a 97 of 99 I'd sure
>like to be
>clued in. I have found a couple of places that sell the manuals
>besides the
>dealer and the 98 price is always $40 to $50 more (the dealer doesn't know
>why either).
>
>TIA
>Rick
>
>
>
>
>
18617 From: <DAVISis@h...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 7:46am
Subject: Need Help with Discon question
99 TJ with a 4" lift. I have the TeraFlex new gen swaybar discons.
I keep losing the pass side hitch pin and washer. Kinda tired of
it. What are the ramifications (besides some extra loose travel) if
I keep the swaybar disconnected all the time (on and off road)?
TIA,
Glen
18618 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 7:55am
Subject: Re: Need Help with Discon question
My opinion...but not a good idea...esp on a SWB vehicle. You'll be fine
driving this way and will get used to the handling characteristics....But,
in an emergency maneuver (when you least expect it), you and others will
have wished you had it on.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <DAVISis@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 8:46 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Need Help with Discon question
> 99 TJ with a 4" lift. I have the TeraFlex new gen swaybar discons.
> I keep losing the pass side hitch pin and washer. Kinda tired of
> it. What are the ramifications (besides some extra loose travel) if
> I keep the swaybar disconnected all the time (on and off road)?
>
> TIA,
>
> Glen
>
>
>
>
18619 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Sun Feb 11, 2001 7:55am
Subject: More Martinez Maintenance Run Pics
Sorry if this comes thru twice. I sent it yesterday and never saw it posted after that.
First of all, I want to thank all that came out today. We had myself, Linda Luik, Todd Lovstrom, Doug Ballard, Larry Greene, Jim Florence (and friends in the F-150 - sorry, I didn't catch their names), Jeff Meade, and Randy Davis.
We met at the usual Texaco in FJ and headed down to Martinez. At the cabin, We dropped off Jim's friend's F-150 and headed up the canyon. It was a pretty non-eventful (but very fun) run up to the washout. Originally, I had thought the washout was more up near the top (stupid feeble mind!), but it was actually on one of the lower switchbacks, but still had a long drop if you rolled out of it. Someone before us had already stacked some rocks in the washout and that made it a bit easier to cross. We decided to put up a fence (thanks Linda for the fence and posts!) in the washout just next to the trail to keep the rock from rolling out during the next storm and created a couple psuedo dams to hopefully try to catch whatever does wash down in to the washout to build the area back up. The work went pretty quickly with the number of people we had helping. Once the work was done we climbed the remaining switchback up to the mine where we stopped to explore the mine. Jeff Meade changed out a rear driveshaft u-joint that had been making noise as a "just in case" precaution. From their, we finished the trail by crawling down the Sluice (not the Luge) and then back down to the cabin.
The trail was pretty busy today with 2 other non-AZVJC groups following us up the canyon. Sure was a lot of fun and the weather could not have been better. Even saw some snow in the canyon
Oh well, enough of my ramblings. Here's the few pics I took:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=637162&a=11502294
Thanks again everybody!
Chris K