blooddrive
01-03-2004, 11:16 AM
18345-18369
18345 From: Ralph Williams <ralph@p...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 4:53pm
Subject: Re: DIFFICULTY OF PLEASANT TO CROWN KING
Takes you to the west to Minnehaha (no sign, must have been a
town once) and then you take a right and head north, northeast to
Hooper Saddle where you end up on the Senator Highway about 6
miles west of Crown King. If you look at a topo map
(www.topozone.com) of the area you will see the road. It is not
on the USGS topos as a Forest Service Road but Street Atlas shows
it as being FR 192 to Minnehaha and then you take FR 362 to
Senator Highway.
Hope this helps,
Ralph
Roger Tomas wrote:
>
> So where does the by-pass take you?
>
> -Roger
>
> > There is a by-pass to "the ledge". It is about 10 miles further
> > to Crown King.
> > About 1/2 mile before "the ledge" in the bottom of the wash, take
> > a left. Follow that road. it is a nice drive, some cool old
> > machinery to look at and the road is much better.
> > Ralph
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ADVERTISEMENT
18346 From: allenjakob <allenjakob@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 5:12pm
Subject: Re: TJ window problem
I had the same problem with my 97TJ, about a year back. It was covered
by the warranty. They sent it out to someone that replaced the zipper
only, not replacing the entire window (which I had hoped for...you know,
window scratches and such). I took it to Earnharts on Rural/ Baseline,
and had no problems.
Allen Jakob
97TJ Sahara
Mike Baney wrote:
> Is anyone having a problem with the zippers on the TJ
> windows? Mine is kinking up, and won't shut now.
> Since it is only 6 months old, I am taking it to
> Earnhardts during lunch to see what they say, and
> hopefully they will replace it.
>
> Mike
>
> =====
> 2001 TJ
>
> __________________________________________________
> Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35
> a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
18347 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 5:33pm
Subject: TR - Feb 10th - Martinez Canyon Maintenance Run
Just a reminder that the AZVJC Martinez Canyon maintenance run is this
Saturday, Feb 10. Meeting time is 9:00am at the Florence Junction Texaco.
We only have 3 definate and 1 tentative Jeeps signed up for this run. If you
are going, please sign up so we know who to expect/wait for. It would be
nice to have a few more helpers for this project.
For those who are new or did not see the original postings, we are going to
be filling in a deep washout on one of the switchbacks near the top. This
washout is becoming dangerous due to the fact that a roll out of washout
will mean a long trip to the bottom of the canyon.
I know Linda has volunteered some chain-link fence, posts and a post driver
to shore up the side. We'll also probably need some sledges to drive the
posts if the post driver can't and maybe some shovels. Can anyone think of
anything else we might want/need?
Also, for those that might want to help but are only up to the drive to
Martinez Cabin (2.5?), will anyone have an open seat in their Jeep in to the
canyon?
Chris Krieg
18348 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 6:16pm
Subject: Re: TR - Miner's Revenge Trip Report (2/3-4)
Glad to hear you made it home safely. You had some folks worried!
Linda
deslug@u... wrote:
>
> > One vehicle bugged out at the escape route after deciding that they
> > wanted off the trail before dark. They took off to find a fording point
> > across the Gila River. Hope they didn't get lost!
> >
>
> Didn't get too lost. The river wasn't to deep, and we ended
> up helping some poor soul accross... His unlifted, running
> board clad broncoII wouldn't have made it out the way we
> came in. Got home before dark, as planned. Things were going
> a bit slow, and a cold drive home wasn't in the cards for me
> or my passegers. Sad to hear the trail is mellowed out,
> Maybe the monsoons will change things for the better. MIKE
18349 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 6:39pm
Subject: Re: TR - Feb 10th - Martinez Canyon Maintenance Run
Chris I am hoping to be able to go Sat. but at this time I do not know
if I have to work Sat. As soon as I know I have it off I will sign up. If I
go I can bring shovel, rake, battery sawzall, and I have a small sledge.
Hope to see you Sat.
Jim Florence
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
18350 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 6:43pm
Subject: Re: Upper Terminator second set
Thanks again for leading me home last night Jim. As far as the repair
all is done now except bleeding the brakes which I will have done soon
(waiting on my brother as Storm refused to help:)
To all who were on the run you are welcome to any pics I have posted
thats why I take them and post them.
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
18351 From: <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 6:50pm
Subject: Re: TR - Feb 10th - Martinez Canyon Maintenance Run
I think I can help out, but I won't know for sure until later in the
week. I have a digging bar (actually found it right there in Martinez
Canyon a year or so ago), a shovel, a hand sledge, and a back-ho (not
really). I'll register as tentative for now.
Larry
--- In az_vjc@y..., Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...> wrote:
> Just a reminder that the AZVJC Martinez Canyon maintenance run is
this
> Saturday, Feb 10. Meeting time is 9:00am at the Florence Junction
Texaco.
>
> We only have 3 definate and 1 tentative Jeeps signed up for this
run. If you
> are going, please sign up so we know who to expect/wait for. It
would be
> nice to have a few more helpers for this project.
>
> For those who are new or did not see the original postings, we are
going to
> be filling in a deep washout on one of the switchbacks near the
top. This
> washout is becoming dangerous due to the fact that a roll out of
washout
> will mean a long trip to the bottom of the canyon.
>
> I know Linda has volunteered some chain-link fence, posts and a
post driver
> to shore up the side. We'll also probably need some sledges to
drive the
> posts if the post driver can't and maybe some shovels. Can anyone
think of
> anything else we might want/need?
>
> Also, for those that might want to help but are only up to the
drive to
> Martinez Cabin (2.5?), will anyone have an open seat in their Jeep
in to the
> canyon?
>
> Chris Krieg
18352 From: <msa12171@a...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 7:17pm
Subject: Upper Terminator...
Thanks all for a good trip Sunday. Did anyone take some video? I'd
like to get some of my Jeep if there is any. Thanks. What's next?
Mike Anderson
97 TJ (blue w/spice hardtop and rack)
18353 From: Tim Naylor <tnaylorsprint@e...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 7:38pm
Subject: RE: winch Q?????
I agree with Scott. (Scott and I always seem to get the same upgrades) I have had a 9500 since they first came out. I bought the second one the Desert Rat in Tucson sold when they were new. The 9500 is worth the extra money.
Last summer we did a night run on the Charouleau Gap trail. It started to rain when we came to the STEP obstacle. Only a couple of us could climb up it and the rest had to have assistance. I winched up 10 vehicles in a row. My cable was a mess after that but the winch never even got warm. Any one who has climbed the STEP can tell you that it can be a mean SOB, especially when it is wet. So, it was no easy task getting that many up. I have seen the 8000's get so hot they had to rest after only a few pulls. Especially the Ramsey 8000's. The first time I used mine was in Moab, where I pulled several vehicles including a full size Toy pickup up White Knuckle. White Knuckle requires about 50 yards of pulling that includes a 15 ft cliff that is almost a 90% wall. I really doubt that an 8000 could have done that.
A 2000 TJ deserves the best, get a Warn 9500.
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kruize [mailto:osmtj@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 10:44 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] winch Q?????
I've had a Warn HS9500i for about 6 weeks. In that time I've used it a dozen times to help other offroaders. Its a great winch and when your respooling the line you'll really appreciate the higher noload line speed. I highly recommend it. IMO an 8000 winch is a little on the light side. Yes it'll pull a Jeep, but usually you also need to overcome something its hung up on, and why does it ALWAYS seem as if your pulling uphill? Anyway, save your money and get the 9500. You won't be saying "Gee, I wish I had bought the 9500." sometime down the road when your trying to help pull fullsize Dodge Ram who's rear wheels are hanging off a cliff :) And you really need to spend the extra $150 to get the Warn accessories kit with the snatch block, chain, treesaver, d-ring, and gloves. About 50% of the pulls I've done so far have utilized the snatch block.
Scott
sfugatejeremy75@aol.com wrote:
I'm looking to buy a Warn M8000 winch for my TJ.
does anybody own one of these winches?? and if so can you let me
know how you like it??? I dont know if I should go bigger or not
Thanks
2000 TJ
Jeremy
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Do You Yahoo!?
- Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - only $35 a year!
18354 From: Rob Williams <Jeepguy@z...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 7:49pm
Subject: Re: Re: Firstwater Closed!!
I can try to post a map, they actually tore up the trails, like tilling them to promote growth to cover the trails. There is no wheeling there now...permit or not!
__________________________________________________ ___________
FREE 6MB ZombieWeb E-Mail Account At http://www.zombieweb.com
Buy Some Cool ZombieWeb Stuff!! http://shop.zombieweb.com/
Report spam to spam@z...
18355 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 9:47pm
Subject: Re: Re: TR - Feb 10th - Martinez Canyon Maintenance Run
Larry,
Welcome to the group! It's been a month since we did that run in the snow. I'll probably be working on the TJ this weekend or I'd join the rest of you.
Take care!
Scott
highupjeep@qwest.net wrote:
I think I can help out, but I won't know for sure until later in the
week. I have a digging bar (actually found it right there in Martinez
Canyon a year or so ago), a shovel, a hand sledge, and a back-ho (not
really). I'll register as tentative for now.
Larry
--- In az_vjc@y..., Chris Krieg wrote:
> Just a reminder that the AZVJC Martinez Canyon maintenance run is
this
> Saturday, Feb 10. Meeting time is 9:00am at the Florence Junction
Texaco.
>
> We only have 3 definate and 1 tentative Jeeps signed up for this
run. If you
> are going, please sign up so we know who to expect/wait for. It
would be
> nice to have a few more helpers for this project.
>
> For those who are new or did not see the original postings, we are
going to
> be filling in a deep washout on one of the switchbacks near the
top. This
> washout is becoming dangerous due to the fact that a roll out of
washout
> will mean a long trip to the bottom of the canyon.
>
> I know Linda has volunteered some chain-link fence, posts and a
post driver
> to shore up the side. We'll also probably need some sledges to
drive the
> posts if the post driver can't and maybe some shovels. Can anyone
think of
> anything else we might want/need?
>
> Also, for those that might want to help but are only up to the
drive to
> Martinez Cabin (2.5?), will anyone have an open seat in their Jeep
in to the
> canyon?
>
> Chris Krieg
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.
18356 From: blake shepherd <blake@b...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 9:49pm
Subject: fuel injection swap...
That's it I've had it with the carburetor scene!!! I'm tired of it
constantly spitting and sputtering while going uphill or off camber. Do any
of you have know how to do a TBI swap into an 80 CJ5???? I already have a
305 running happily in the jeep now. Logic says that the swap should not be
to hard or expensive. Please let me know how its done!!!!
TIA
blake
80cj5
18357 From: Nick Notestine <nnote@n...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 11:23pm
Subject: Martinaz Cabin
If anyone has access to some or even one used or new railroad tie that would
probably make the job of repairing that washout section much easier.
Nick
18358 From: <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 4:06am
Subject: Re: TR - Feb 10th - Martinez Canyon Maintenance Run
Scott,
I did find some snow that one Saturday a couple weeks back when I
went to Power Line Road east of Superior. Not real deep (about 3-4
inches), but everything was covered and it was nice to drive in.
I was just up in Martinez Canyon a few weeks back and I don't
remember any real bad washout, but I guess we'll see. Should be fun
doing some road repair.
See you,
Larry
--- In az_vjc@y..., Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...> wrote:
>
> Larry,
>
> Welcome to the group! It's been a month since we did that run in
the snow. I'll probably be working on the TJ this weekend or I'd join
the rest of you.
>
> Take care!
>
> Scott
>
>
> highupjeep@q... wrote:
> I think I can help out, but I won't know for sure until later in
the
> week. I have a digging bar (actually found it right there in
Martinez
> Canyon a year or so ago), a shovel, a hand sledge, and a back-ho
(not
> really). I'll register as tentative for now.
>
> Larry
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., Chris Krieg wrote:
> > Just a reminder that the AZVJC Martinez Canyon maintenance run is
> this
> > Saturday, Feb 10. Meeting time is 9:00am at the Florence Junction
> Texaco.
> >
> > We only have 3 definate and 1 tentative Jeeps signed up for this
> run. If you
> > are going, please sign up so we know who to expect/wait for. It
> would be
> > nice to have a few more helpers for this project.
> >
> > For those who are new or did not see the original postings, we
are
> going to
> > be filling in a deep washout on one of the switchbacks near the
> top. This
> > washout is becoming dangerous due to the fact that a roll out of
> washout
> > will mean a long trip to the bottom of the canyon.
> >
> > I know Linda has volunteered some chain-link fence, posts and a
> post driver
> > to shore up the side. We'll also probably need some sledges to
> drive the
> > posts if the post driver can't and maybe some shovels. Can anyone
> think of
> > anything else we might want/need?
> >
> > Also, for those that might want to help but are only up to the
> drive to
> > Martinez Cabin (2.5?), will anyone have an open seat in their
Jeep
> in to the
> > canyon?
> >
> > Chris Krieg
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.
18359 From: <flatfenderman@a...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 0:33am
Subject: need 2 find shock mount - help
I busted a rear shock mount off my Dad's 91' Wrangler rear axle tube. I have
searched the parts catalogs but cant seem to find one. I don't want any fancy
upgraded unit, just the stock piece. Dose anyone know where to find one? I
have to keep the Jeep in good shape, it could end up as part of my
inheritance!
Thanks in advance...
Chris Lewis
18360 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 5:49am
Subject: Re: need 2 find shock mount - help
Your best bet may be to just go to a fab shop and have them make you up on
and weld it on. O-R Fab on the west side is very good. Hunter Off-Road, on
the east side.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <flatfenderman@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 6:33 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] need 2 find shock mount - help
> I busted a rear shock mount off my Dad's 91' Wrangler rear axle tube. I
have
> searched the parts catalogs but cant seem to find one. I don't want any
fancy
> upgraded unit, just the stock piece. Dose anyone know where to find one? I
> have to keep the Jeep in good shape, it could end up as part of my
> inheritance!
>
> Thanks in advance...
> Chris Lewis
>
>
>
18361 From: <mike.chatfield@p...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 7:17am
Subject: We've dropped to #36!
Need 30 people to click the link below to get us back in the top 15.
http://top4x4sites.com/cgi-bin/arp/rankem.cgi?id=azvjc
18362 From: <jeffm@d...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 7:34am
Subject: Re: TR - Feb 10th - Martinez Canyon Maintenance Run
I will have one open seat in my CJ if someone needs a ride from the
cabin.
Jeff
--- In az_vjc@y..., Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...> wrote:
> Just a reminder that the AZVJC Martinez Canyon maintenance run is
this
> Saturday, Feb 10. Meeting time is 9:00am at the Florence Junction
Texaco.
>
> We only have 3 definate and 1 tentative Jeeps signed up for this
run. If you
> are going, please sign up so we know who to expect/wait for. It
would be
> nice to have a few more helpers for this project.
>
> For those who are new or did not see the original postings, we are
going to
> be filling in a deep washout on one of the switchbacks near the
top. This
> washout is becoming dangerous due to the fact that a roll out of
washout
> will mean a long trip to the bottom of the canyon.
>
> I know Linda has volunteered some chain-link fence, posts and a
post driver
> to shore up the side. We'll also probably need some sledges to
drive the
> posts if the post driver can't and maybe some shovels. Can anyone
think of
> anything else we might want/need?
>
> Also, for those that might want to help but are only up to the
drive to
> Martinez Cabin (2.5?), will anyone have an open seat in their Jeep
in to the
> canyon?
>
> Chris Krieg
18363 From: Jason Riggs <ijeep@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 8:05am
Subject: Re: fuel injection swap...
Ive got a TBI 350 in my CJ7. What do you want to know
exactly? Basically you've got to find the system.
Acquire a wiring harness (either a Howell or Painless
or just use a factory one) get a fuel pump and throw
it together. :) Just that easy. Not really. It
helps to have a access to a scanner when you are first
getting it running. Ill try and help you if you have
some more specific questions. Good luck!
Jason
--- blake shepherd <blake@b...> wrote:
> That's it I've had it with the carburetor scene!!!
> I'm tired of it
> constantly spitting and sputtering while going
> uphill or off camber. Do any
> of you have know how to do a TBI swap into an 80
> CJ5???? I already have a
> 305 running happily in the jeep now. Logic says
> that the swap should not be
> to hard or expensive. Please let me know how its
> done!!!!
>
> TIA
>
> blake
> 80cj5
>
>
>
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.
http://auctions.yahoo.com/
18364 From: Chatfield, Mike <mike.chatfield@p...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 8:15am
Subject: RE: We've dropped to #36!
I had initially put in the events...
There is also a button if you scroll down the contents bar.
There is another button on the "Splash page"
http://www.azvjc.org
Thanks,
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris R. [mailto:My1stJeep@e...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 9:11 AM
To: mike.chatfield@p...
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] We've dropped to #36!
I noticed the button had dropped of the home page, I have been trying to
vote, just no button.
Chris
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
My1stJeep@e...
'97 TJ
___
[___]
-(O|||||O)-
=======
[||]----O--[||]
----------------------------------------------------
"He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a
fool forever."
On Tue, 06 Feb 2001 15:17:48 -0000, mike.chatfield@p... wrote:
> Need 30 people to click the link below to get us back in the top 15.
>
> http://top4x4sites.com/cgi-bin/arp/rankem.cgi?id=azvjc
>
>
>
>
>
__________________________________________________ _____
Send a cool gift with your E-Card
http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
18365 From: Scott Edwards <azcj@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 10:49am
Subject: Re: No fight gas nozzle anymore
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Nick Notestine" <nnote@n...> wrote:
> Hey all, thought I'd let you know this...
> I was checking on my gas tank to make sure it was the 19 gal that I
was
> sold. I was following the procedure on the 15-19 gal gas tank
conversion
> (also I wanted to know how to do it for a friend). Here is the link
> www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/tech/fuel/ . I have filled up twice
since then
> and have found that I no longer have to fight the gas nozzle to
keep it
> pumping. Usually it takes alot to find just that right postion to
where the
> autoshut off wont trigger. This is gonna be a major Jeepstress
releaver.
> In the conversion instructions it says to cut the vent tube and re-
insert
> the last 3 inches. That was what was in my tank. I went ahead and
yanked
> out the 3 inch tube, it is no biggie since it is just a tube in a
tube. If
> ya'll got the 15 gal tank I would really suggest this mod and even
if you
> have the 19 gal I would suggest getting in there and just removing
the tube
> so you won't have to fight with the pump anymore. It took me about
45
> minutes and a little missing skin....
> Nick
18366 From: Nick Notestine <nnote@n...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 11:30am
Subject: Re: No fight gas nozzle anymore
Well, I hate to tell you to go through all the work to dig back in there but
um... you should! Mine was the same. I already had the 19 Gal. tank. What
I did though was to just pull that inner tube completly out. That still
leaves the out tubing to contain gas and fumes. You did see the inner and
outer tube right? You have to grab some pliers and pull on the lip of the
tub and that will start moving the inner tube out. Just be carefull not to
slip and make sparks!
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Edwards" <azcj@y...>
To: "Nick Notestine" <nnote@n...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: No fight gas nozzle anymore
> I just tried this mod on my '97 TJ 4cyl w/ 15 gallon tank. There was
> no tube to cut off. The vent line only extended 2 inches into the
> tank. Wish it had worked.
>
> -Scott
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Nick Notestine" <nnote@n...> wrote:
> > Hey all, thought I'd let you know this...
> > I was checking on my gas tank to make sure it was the 19 gal that I
> was
> > sold. I was following the procedure on the 15-19 gal gas tank
> conversion
> > (also I wanted to know how to do it for a friend). Here is the link
> > www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/tech/fuel/ . I have filled up twice
> since then
> > and have found that I no longer have to fight the gas nozzle to
> keep it
> > pumping. Usually it takes alot to find just that right postion to
> where the
> > autoshut off wont trigger. This is gonna be a major Jeepstress
> releaver.
> > In the conversion instructions it says to cut the vent tube and re-
> insert
> > the last 3 inches. That was what was in my tank. I went ahead and
> yanked
> > out the 3 inch tube, it is no biggie since it is just a tube in a
> tube. If
> > ya'll got the 15 gal tank I would really suggest this mod and even
> if you
> > have the 19 gal I would suggest getting in there and just removing
> the tube
> > so you won't have to fight with the pump anymore. It took me about
> 45
> > minutes and a little missing skin....
> > Nick
>
>
18367 From: Joe Kearney <JoeKPhx@h...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 0:27pm
Subject: Re: We've dropped to #36!
13th now
>From: mike.chatfield@p...
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] We've dropped to #36!
>Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 15:17:48 -0000
>
>Need 30 people to click the link below to get us back in the top 15.
>
>http://top4x4sites.com/cgi-bin/arp/rankem.cgi?id=azvjc
>
>
>
>
>
__________________________________________________ _______________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
18368 From: Brian Pavlich <brian.pavlich@i...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 1:51pm
Subject: Compressor suggestions?
I've been looking around for onboard air compressors (for my XJ), and wonder
what other people have tried?
I have my eye on the VIAIR 200 portable or onboard model. These kits are
about $200, so I wanted to know what else there is and whats good. I dont
plan on trying to stuff an engine driven compressor under the hood so whats
a good portable / electrical driven model?
Thanks!
- Brian (Zoner)
18369 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 2:08pm
Subject:
I found the lowered ZJ!!! Too bad it doesn't show the
license plate so we can find him!!!
http://www.dirtroad.com/lzj.jpg
=====
2001 TJ
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.
http://auctions.yahoo.com/
18345 From: Ralph Williams <ralph@p...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 4:53pm
Subject: Re: DIFFICULTY OF PLEASANT TO CROWN KING
Takes you to the west to Minnehaha (no sign, must have been a
town once) and then you take a right and head north, northeast to
Hooper Saddle where you end up on the Senator Highway about 6
miles west of Crown King. If you look at a topo map
(www.topozone.com) of the area you will see the road. It is not
on the USGS topos as a Forest Service Road but Street Atlas shows
it as being FR 192 to Minnehaha and then you take FR 362 to
Senator Highway.
Hope this helps,
Ralph
Roger Tomas wrote:
>
> So where does the by-pass take you?
>
> -Roger
>
> > There is a by-pass to "the ledge". It is about 10 miles further
> > to Crown King.
> > About 1/2 mile before "the ledge" in the bottom of the wash, take
> > a left. Follow that road. it is a nice drive, some cool old
> > machinery to look at and the road is much better.
> > Ralph
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ADVERTISEMENT
18346 From: allenjakob <allenjakob@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 5:12pm
Subject: Re: TJ window problem
I had the same problem with my 97TJ, about a year back. It was covered
by the warranty. They sent it out to someone that replaced the zipper
only, not replacing the entire window (which I had hoped for...you know,
window scratches and such). I took it to Earnharts on Rural/ Baseline,
and had no problems.
Allen Jakob
97TJ Sahara
Mike Baney wrote:
> Is anyone having a problem with the zippers on the TJ
> windows? Mine is kinking up, and won't shut now.
> Since it is only 6 months old, I am taking it to
> Earnhardts during lunch to see what they say, and
> hopefully they will replace it.
>
> Mike
>
> =====
> 2001 TJ
>
> __________________________________________________
> Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35
> a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
18347 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 5:33pm
Subject: TR - Feb 10th - Martinez Canyon Maintenance Run
Just a reminder that the AZVJC Martinez Canyon maintenance run is this
Saturday, Feb 10. Meeting time is 9:00am at the Florence Junction Texaco.
We only have 3 definate and 1 tentative Jeeps signed up for this run. If you
are going, please sign up so we know who to expect/wait for. It would be
nice to have a few more helpers for this project.
For those who are new or did not see the original postings, we are going to
be filling in a deep washout on one of the switchbacks near the top. This
washout is becoming dangerous due to the fact that a roll out of washout
will mean a long trip to the bottom of the canyon.
I know Linda has volunteered some chain-link fence, posts and a post driver
to shore up the side. We'll also probably need some sledges to drive the
posts if the post driver can't and maybe some shovels. Can anyone think of
anything else we might want/need?
Also, for those that might want to help but are only up to the drive to
Martinez Cabin (2.5?), will anyone have an open seat in their Jeep in to the
canyon?
Chris Krieg
18348 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 6:16pm
Subject: Re: TR - Miner's Revenge Trip Report (2/3-4)
Glad to hear you made it home safely. You had some folks worried!
Linda
deslug@u... wrote:
>
> > One vehicle bugged out at the escape route after deciding that they
> > wanted off the trail before dark. They took off to find a fording point
> > across the Gila River. Hope they didn't get lost!
> >
>
> Didn't get too lost. The river wasn't to deep, and we ended
> up helping some poor soul accross... His unlifted, running
> board clad broncoII wouldn't have made it out the way we
> came in. Got home before dark, as planned. Things were going
> a bit slow, and a cold drive home wasn't in the cards for me
> or my passegers. Sad to hear the trail is mellowed out,
> Maybe the monsoons will change things for the better. MIKE
18349 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 6:39pm
Subject: Re: TR - Feb 10th - Martinez Canyon Maintenance Run
Chris I am hoping to be able to go Sat. but at this time I do not know
if I have to work Sat. As soon as I know I have it off I will sign up. If I
go I can bring shovel, rake, battery sawzall, and I have a small sledge.
Hope to see you Sat.
Jim Florence
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
18350 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 6:43pm
Subject: Re: Upper Terminator second set
Thanks again for leading me home last night Jim. As far as the repair
all is done now except bleeding the brakes which I will have done soon
(waiting on my brother as Storm refused to help:)
To all who were on the run you are welcome to any pics I have posted
thats why I take them and post them.
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
18351 From: <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 6:50pm
Subject: Re: TR - Feb 10th - Martinez Canyon Maintenance Run
I think I can help out, but I won't know for sure until later in the
week. I have a digging bar (actually found it right there in Martinez
Canyon a year or so ago), a shovel, a hand sledge, and a back-ho (not
really). I'll register as tentative for now.
Larry
--- In az_vjc@y..., Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...> wrote:
> Just a reminder that the AZVJC Martinez Canyon maintenance run is
this
> Saturday, Feb 10. Meeting time is 9:00am at the Florence Junction
Texaco.
>
> We only have 3 definate and 1 tentative Jeeps signed up for this
run. If you
> are going, please sign up so we know who to expect/wait for. It
would be
> nice to have a few more helpers for this project.
>
> For those who are new or did not see the original postings, we are
going to
> be filling in a deep washout on one of the switchbacks near the
top. This
> washout is becoming dangerous due to the fact that a roll out of
washout
> will mean a long trip to the bottom of the canyon.
>
> I know Linda has volunteered some chain-link fence, posts and a
post driver
> to shore up the side. We'll also probably need some sledges to
drive the
> posts if the post driver can't and maybe some shovels. Can anyone
think of
> anything else we might want/need?
>
> Also, for those that might want to help but are only up to the
drive to
> Martinez Cabin (2.5?), will anyone have an open seat in their Jeep
in to the
> canyon?
>
> Chris Krieg
18352 From: <msa12171@a...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 7:17pm
Subject: Upper Terminator...
Thanks all for a good trip Sunday. Did anyone take some video? I'd
like to get some of my Jeep if there is any. Thanks. What's next?
Mike Anderson
97 TJ (blue w/spice hardtop and rack)
18353 From: Tim Naylor <tnaylorsprint@e...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 7:38pm
Subject: RE: winch Q?????
I agree with Scott. (Scott and I always seem to get the same upgrades) I have had a 9500 since they first came out. I bought the second one the Desert Rat in Tucson sold when they were new. The 9500 is worth the extra money.
Last summer we did a night run on the Charouleau Gap trail. It started to rain when we came to the STEP obstacle. Only a couple of us could climb up it and the rest had to have assistance. I winched up 10 vehicles in a row. My cable was a mess after that but the winch never even got warm. Any one who has climbed the STEP can tell you that it can be a mean SOB, especially when it is wet. So, it was no easy task getting that many up. I have seen the 8000's get so hot they had to rest after only a few pulls. Especially the Ramsey 8000's. The first time I used mine was in Moab, where I pulled several vehicles including a full size Toy pickup up White Knuckle. White Knuckle requires about 50 yards of pulling that includes a 15 ft cliff that is almost a 90% wall. I really doubt that an 8000 could have done that.
A 2000 TJ deserves the best, get a Warn 9500.
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kruize [mailto:osmtj@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 10:44 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] winch Q?????
I've had a Warn HS9500i for about 6 weeks. In that time I've used it a dozen times to help other offroaders. Its a great winch and when your respooling the line you'll really appreciate the higher noload line speed. I highly recommend it. IMO an 8000 winch is a little on the light side. Yes it'll pull a Jeep, but usually you also need to overcome something its hung up on, and why does it ALWAYS seem as if your pulling uphill? Anyway, save your money and get the 9500. You won't be saying "Gee, I wish I had bought the 9500." sometime down the road when your trying to help pull fullsize Dodge Ram who's rear wheels are hanging off a cliff :) And you really need to spend the extra $150 to get the Warn accessories kit with the snatch block, chain, treesaver, d-ring, and gloves. About 50% of the pulls I've done so far have utilized the snatch block.
Scott
sfugatejeremy75@aol.com wrote:
I'm looking to buy a Warn M8000 winch for my TJ.
does anybody own one of these winches?? and if so can you let me
know how you like it??? I dont know if I should go bigger or not
Thanks
2000 TJ
Jeremy
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Do You Yahoo!?
- Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - only $35 a year!
18354 From: Rob Williams <Jeepguy@z...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 7:49pm
Subject: Re: Re: Firstwater Closed!!
I can try to post a map, they actually tore up the trails, like tilling them to promote growth to cover the trails. There is no wheeling there now...permit or not!
__________________________________________________ ___________
FREE 6MB ZombieWeb E-Mail Account At http://www.zombieweb.com
Buy Some Cool ZombieWeb Stuff!! http://shop.zombieweb.com/
Report spam to spam@z...
18355 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 9:47pm
Subject: Re: Re: TR - Feb 10th - Martinez Canyon Maintenance Run
Larry,
Welcome to the group! It's been a month since we did that run in the snow. I'll probably be working on the TJ this weekend or I'd join the rest of you.
Take care!
Scott
highupjeep@qwest.net wrote:
I think I can help out, but I won't know for sure until later in the
week. I have a digging bar (actually found it right there in Martinez
Canyon a year or so ago), a shovel, a hand sledge, and a back-ho (not
really). I'll register as tentative for now.
Larry
--- In az_vjc@y..., Chris Krieg wrote:
> Just a reminder that the AZVJC Martinez Canyon maintenance run is
this
> Saturday, Feb 10. Meeting time is 9:00am at the Florence Junction
Texaco.
>
> We only have 3 definate and 1 tentative Jeeps signed up for this
run. If you
> are going, please sign up so we know who to expect/wait for. It
would be
> nice to have a few more helpers for this project.
>
> For those who are new or did not see the original postings, we are
going to
> be filling in a deep washout on one of the switchbacks near the
top. This
> washout is becoming dangerous due to the fact that a roll out of
washout
> will mean a long trip to the bottom of the canyon.
>
> I know Linda has volunteered some chain-link fence, posts and a
post driver
> to shore up the side. We'll also probably need some sledges to
drive the
> posts if the post driver can't and maybe some shovels. Can anyone
think of
> anything else we might want/need?
>
> Also, for those that might want to help but are only up to the
drive to
> Martinez Cabin (2.5?), will anyone have an open seat in their Jeep
in to the
> canyon?
>
> Chris Krieg
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.
18356 From: blake shepherd <blake@b...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 9:49pm
Subject: fuel injection swap...
That's it I've had it with the carburetor scene!!! I'm tired of it
constantly spitting and sputtering while going uphill or off camber. Do any
of you have know how to do a TBI swap into an 80 CJ5???? I already have a
305 running happily in the jeep now. Logic says that the swap should not be
to hard or expensive. Please let me know how its done!!!!
TIA
blake
80cj5
18357 From: Nick Notestine <nnote@n...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2001 11:23pm
Subject: Martinaz Cabin
If anyone has access to some or even one used or new railroad tie that would
probably make the job of repairing that washout section much easier.
Nick
18358 From: <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 4:06am
Subject: Re: TR - Feb 10th - Martinez Canyon Maintenance Run
Scott,
I did find some snow that one Saturday a couple weeks back when I
went to Power Line Road east of Superior. Not real deep (about 3-4
inches), but everything was covered and it was nice to drive in.
I was just up in Martinez Canyon a few weeks back and I don't
remember any real bad washout, but I guess we'll see. Should be fun
doing some road repair.
See you,
Larry
--- In az_vjc@y..., Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...> wrote:
>
> Larry,
>
> Welcome to the group! It's been a month since we did that run in
the snow. I'll probably be working on the TJ this weekend or I'd join
the rest of you.
>
> Take care!
>
> Scott
>
>
> highupjeep@q... wrote:
> I think I can help out, but I won't know for sure until later in
the
> week. I have a digging bar (actually found it right there in
Martinez
> Canyon a year or so ago), a shovel, a hand sledge, and a back-ho
(not
> really). I'll register as tentative for now.
>
> Larry
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., Chris Krieg wrote:
> > Just a reminder that the AZVJC Martinez Canyon maintenance run is
> this
> > Saturday, Feb 10. Meeting time is 9:00am at the Florence Junction
> Texaco.
> >
> > We only have 3 definate and 1 tentative Jeeps signed up for this
> run. If you
> > are going, please sign up so we know who to expect/wait for. It
> would be
> > nice to have a few more helpers for this project.
> >
> > For those who are new or did not see the original postings, we
are
> going to
> > be filling in a deep washout on one of the switchbacks near the
> top. This
> > washout is becoming dangerous due to the fact that a roll out of
> washout
> > will mean a long trip to the bottom of the canyon.
> >
> > I know Linda has volunteered some chain-link fence, posts and a
> post driver
> > to shore up the side. We'll also probably need some sledges to
> drive the
> > posts if the post driver can't and maybe some shovels. Can anyone
> think of
> > anything else we might want/need?
> >
> > Also, for those that might want to help but are only up to the
> drive to
> > Martinez Cabin (2.5?), will anyone have an open seat in their
Jeep
> in to the
> > canyon?
> >
> > Chris Krieg
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.
18359 From: <flatfenderman@a...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 0:33am
Subject: need 2 find shock mount - help
I busted a rear shock mount off my Dad's 91' Wrangler rear axle tube. I have
searched the parts catalogs but cant seem to find one. I don't want any fancy
upgraded unit, just the stock piece. Dose anyone know where to find one? I
have to keep the Jeep in good shape, it could end up as part of my
inheritance!
Thanks in advance...
Chris Lewis
18360 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 5:49am
Subject: Re: need 2 find shock mount - help
Your best bet may be to just go to a fab shop and have them make you up on
and weld it on. O-R Fab on the west side is very good. Hunter Off-Road, on
the east side.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <flatfenderman@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 6:33 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] need 2 find shock mount - help
> I busted a rear shock mount off my Dad's 91' Wrangler rear axle tube. I
have
> searched the parts catalogs but cant seem to find one. I don't want any
fancy
> upgraded unit, just the stock piece. Dose anyone know where to find one? I
> have to keep the Jeep in good shape, it could end up as part of my
> inheritance!
>
> Thanks in advance...
> Chris Lewis
>
>
>
18361 From: <mike.chatfield@p...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 7:17am
Subject: We've dropped to #36!
Need 30 people to click the link below to get us back in the top 15.
http://top4x4sites.com/cgi-bin/arp/rankem.cgi?id=azvjc
18362 From: <jeffm@d...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 7:34am
Subject: Re: TR - Feb 10th - Martinez Canyon Maintenance Run
I will have one open seat in my CJ if someone needs a ride from the
cabin.
Jeff
--- In az_vjc@y..., Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...> wrote:
> Just a reminder that the AZVJC Martinez Canyon maintenance run is
this
> Saturday, Feb 10. Meeting time is 9:00am at the Florence Junction
Texaco.
>
> We only have 3 definate and 1 tentative Jeeps signed up for this
run. If you
> are going, please sign up so we know who to expect/wait for. It
would be
> nice to have a few more helpers for this project.
>
> For those who are new or did not see the original postings, we are
going to
> be filling in a deep washout on one of the switchbacks near the
top. This
> washout is becoming dangerous due to the fact that a roll out of
washout
> will mean a long trip to the bottom of the canyon.
>
> I know Linda has volunteered some chain-link fence, posts and a
post driver
> to shore up the side. We'll also probably need some sledges to
drive the
> posts if the post driver can't and maybe some shovels. Can anyone
think of
> anything else we might want/need?
>
> Also, for those that might want to help but are only up to the
drive to
> Martinez Cabin (2.5?), will anyone have an open seat in their Jeep
in to the
> canyon?
>
> Chris Krieg
18363 From: Jason Riggs <ijeep@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 8:05am
Subject: Re: fuel injection swap...
Ive got a TBI 350 in my CJ7. What do you want to know
exactly? Basically you've got to find the system.
Acquire a wiring harness (either a Howell or Painless
or just use a factory one) get a fuel pump and throw
it together. :) Just that easy. Not really. It
helps to have a access to a scanner when you are first
getting it running. Ill try and help you if you have
some more specific questions. Good luck!
Jason
--- blake shepherd <blake@b...> wrote:
> That's it I've had it with the carburetor scene!!!
> I'm tired of it
> constantly spitting and sputtering while going
> uphill or off camber. Do any
> of you have know how to do a TBI swap into an 80
> CJ5???? I already have a
> 305 running happily in the jeep now. Logic says
> that the swap should not be
> to hard or expensive. Please let me know how its
> done!!!!
>
> TIA
>
> blake
> 80cj5
>
>
>
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.
http://auctions.yahoo.com/
18364 From: Chatfield, Mike <mike.chatfield@p...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 8:15am
Subject: RE: We've dropped to #36!
I had initially put in the events...
There is also a button if you scroll down the contents bar.
There is another button on the "Splash page"
http://www.azvjc.org
Thanks,
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris R. [mailto:My1stJeep@e...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 9:11 AM
To: mike.chatfield@p...
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] We've dropped to #36!
I noticed the button had dropped of the home page, I have been trying to
vote, just no button.
Chris
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
My1stJeep@e...
'97 TJ
___
[___]
-(O|||||O)-
=======
[||]----O--[||]
----------------------------------------------------
"He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a
fool forever."
On Tue, 06 Feb 2001 15:17:48 -0000, mike.chatfield@p... wrote:
> Need 30 people to click the link below to get us back in the top 15.
>
> http://top4x4sites.com/cgi-bin/arp/rankem.cgi?id=azvjc
>
>
>
>
>
__________________________________________________ _____
Send a cool gift with your E-Card
http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
18365 From: Scott Edwards <azcj@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 10:49am
Subject: Re: No fight gas nozzle anymore
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Nick Notestine" <nnote@n...> wrote:
> Hey all, thought I'd let you know this...
> I was checking on my gas tank to make sure it was the 19 gal that I
was
> sold. I was following the procedure on the 15-19 gal gas tank
conversion
> (also I wanted to know how to do it for a friend). Here is the link
> www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/tech/fuel/ . I have filled up twice
since then
> and have found that I no longer have to fight the gas nozzle to
keep it
> pumping. Usually it takes alot to find just that right postion to
where the
> autoshut off wont trigger. This is gonna be a major Jeepstress
releaver.
> In the conversion instructions it says to cut the vent tube and re-
insert
> the last 3 inches. That was what was in my tank. I went ahead and
yanked
> out the 3 inch tube, it is no biggie since it is just a tube in a
tube. If
> ya'll got the 15 gal tank I would really suggest this mod and even
if you
> have the 19 gal I would suggest getting in there and just removing
the tube
> so you won't have to fight with the pump anymore. It took me about
45
> minutes and a little missing skin....
> Nick
18366 From: Nick Notestine <nnote@n...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 11:30am
Subject: Re: No fight gas nozzle anymore
Well, I hate to tell you to go through all the work to dig back in there but
um... you should! Mine was the same. I already had the 19 Gal. tank. What
I did though was to just pull that inner tube completly out. That still
leaves the out tubing to contain gas and fumes. You did see the inner and
outer tube right? You have to grab some pliers and pull on the lip of the
tub and that will start moving the inner tube out. Just be carefull not to
slip and make sparks!
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Edwards" <azcj@y...>
To: "Nick Notestine" <nnote@n...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: No fight gas nozzle anymore
> I just tried this mod on my '97 TJ 4cyl w/ 15 gallon tank. There was
> no tube to cut off. The vent line only extended 2 inches into the
> tank. Wish it had worked.
>
> -Scott
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Nick Notestine" <nnote@n...> wrote:
> > Hey all, thought I'd let you know this...
> > I was checking on my gas tank to make sure it was the 19 gal that I
> was
> > sold. I was following the procedure on the 15-19 gal gas tank
> conversion
> > (also I wanted to know how to do it for a friend). Here is the link
> > www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/tech/fuel/ . I have filled up twice
> since then
> > and have found that I no longer have to fight the gas nozzle to
> keep it
> > pumping. Usually it takes alot to find just that right postion to
> where the
> > autoshut off wont trigger. This is gonna be a major Jeepstress
> releaver.
> > In the conversion instructions it says to cut the vent tube and re-
> insert
> > the last 3 inches. That was what was in my tank. I went ahead and
> yanked
> > out the 3 inch tube, it is no biggie since it is just a tube in a
> tube. If
> > ya'll got the 15 gal tank I would really suggest this mod and even
> if you
> > have the 19 gal I would suggest getting in there and just removing
> the tube
> > so you won't have to fight with the pump anymore. It took me about
> 45
> > minutes and a little missing skin....
> > Nick
>
>
18367 From: Joe Kearney <JoeKPhx@h...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 0:27pm
Subject: Re: We've dropped to #36!
13th now
>From: mike.chatfield@p...
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] We've dropped to #36!
>Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 15:17:48 -0000
>
>Need 30 people to click the link below to get us back in the top 15.
>
>http://top4x4sites.com/cgi-bin/arp/rankem.cgi?id=azvjc
>
>
>
>
>
__________________________________________________ _______________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
18368 From: Brian Pavlich <brian.pavlich@i...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 1:51pm
Subject: Compressor suggestions?
I've been looking around for onboard air compressors (for my XJ), and wonder
what other people have tried?
I have my eye on the VIAIR 200 portable or onboard model. These kits are
about $200, so I wanted to know what else there is and whats good. I dont
plan on trying to stuff an engine driven compressor under the hood so whats
a good portable / electrical driven model?
Thanks!
- Brian (Zoner)
18369 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 2:08pm
Subject:
I found the lowered ZJ!!! Too bad it doesn't show the
license plate so we can find him!!!
http://www.dirtroad.com/lzj.jpg
=====
2001 TJ
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.
http://auctions.yahoo.com/